The Clergy Response Team and Other Scary Stuff

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I have been busy scaring the the crap out of myself today. So I thought I would share. smiling Not that any of this is news to readers of WP's blog...

Video: Martial Law. US Army prepares to invade the US
"The plans to implement martial law in America have been taking shape for decades, hidden behind "Continuity of Government" contingency planning. Now, with public outcry over the banker bailout bill at fever pitch, all of the pieces are in place for the U.S. Army to start policing American citizens."

Starting at 5:27 min into the video:
If marshal law were enacted in the US a Clergy Response Team would be used. In many cases the clergy would already be known in the neighbourhoods where they would be "helping to quell fears and ease dissent". According to CBS they already helped to accomplish this in Katrina. One of the "biggest tools at their disposal" is Romans 13. A cleric they interviewed says it means "the government is established by the lord". It also says other scary stuff such as "rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil... [they are] the minister of God to thee for good...[they are] a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil" (like, for instance, those 'evil doer' government dissenters).

Has Sarah Palin Been Picked as the Titular Head of the Coming Police State? -by Naomi Klein
I realized early on with horror what I was seeing in Governor Palin: the continuation of the Rove-Cheney cabal, but this time without restraints. I heard her echo Bush 2000 soundbites (”the heart of America is on display”) and realized Bush’s speechwriters were writing her — not McCain’s — speeches. I heard her tell George Bush’s lies — not McCain’s — to the American people, linking 9/11 to Iraq. I heard her make fun of Barack Obama for wanting to prevent the torture of prisoners — this is Rove-Cheney’s enthusiastic S and M, not McCain’s, who, though he shamefully colluded in the 2006 Military Tribunals Act, is also a former prisoner of war and wrote an eloquent Newsweek piece in 2005 opposing torture. I saw that she was even styled by the same skillful stylist (neutral lipstick, matte makeup, dark colors) who turned Katharine Harris from a mall rat into a stateswoman and who styles all the women in the Bush orbit — but who does not bother to style Cindy McCain.
I went to John McCain's official website after reading this article by Klein and interestingly, the first thing you see is a video of Sarah Palin welcoming you to the website. I thought that was strange but then I don't frequent presidential campaign websites.

Death Becomes Her: Let's Make Her President -by Jason Miller

As is befitting of a huntress extraordinaire, Palin provides an endless supply of red meat for the benighted, socially conservative American masses to devour with the ferocity of the hungry wolves she loves to annihilate:

- Life begins at conception.
- No abortion (including in rape and incest cases) unless it is necessary to save the life of the mother.
- Abstinence only.
- Our war crimes and genocide in Iraq are God’s will.
- Cut government spending on socially beneficial programs but keep underwriting the squatters in Palestine and pumping obscene amounts of cash into our murderous military machine.
- Islamic extremists are “hell bent on destroying our nation.”
- Russia invaded Georgia “unprovoked” and war with the Russians is a viable option.
- Israel would be justified in launching a nuclear strike against Iran to preserve its “security.”
- US military incursions into sovereign nations like Pakistan are necessary and permissible.
- Shooting any non-human animal that moves, asking questions later, devouring their flesh in a delectable stew, wearing their skins and furs, and mounting their heads on our walls as macabre “trophies” are our - God-given rights as red-blooded Americans.

The Alaskan wilderness, over which she presides, is a repository for OUR precious oil and we must “drill, baby, drill,” regardless of how many species we drive to extinction and how much damage we do to the environment.
She is so rife with idiocy, devotion to “normalized violence,” and a river of venom that froths and seethes under her guise of “Christian compassion” that it is virtually impossible to pinpoint her most loathsome and dangerous trait. However, her zealous adherence to Western culture’s paradigm of dominionism, meaning dominion over the environment and nonhuman animals, demonstrates and encapsulates most of Sarah Palin’s myriad sociopathic tendencies that readily qualify her to occupy the Oval Office.



thanks for posting all this, McJ. That's quite a collection of fun stuff! ;-(

Romans 13

Here's what I have to say about that passage in Romans 13: Angels Weep

Our Man in Rome

Winter, I think you are being overly generous to "Our Man". This is the same man who claimed he was "All things to all men" in 1Cor ch9. He was at pains not to alarm the Romans and their puppets and even to engratiate himself with them. (Of course, the people who quote him have the same motivation - as you say.) I don't think he was writing in code for the punters as I think you are alluding to. The man was, enlightnment or no, a lawyer and would be no stranger to pretzel logic as are the current purveyors of this same twisted thinking. Besides, what he was saying is clearly very suspect.

It is one thing to say that God tolerates the evil doing evil as in the weeds in the wheatfield and in that God sends the rain to fall on the unrighteous as well as the righteous. But it is quite another thing to say that God appointed these monsters and by direct implication indicating they are doing God's will as Paul is doing.
"This is the message which we have heard from Him and declare to you, that God is light and in Him is no darkness at all." 1 John 1:5.

I'd back John over Paul any day.

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Thanks for the scare McJ

Tis the season to be scared.
Someone yesterday asked me if I had heard that Martial Law goes into effect on 10/15. I asked him if this was rumor or if it had been officially announced somewhere. He didn't know and I can't find anything official, so I'm going with rumor. But maybe these rumors are being spread so people will be less shocked and surprised if and when it does happen?
That link about blackwater at the bottom of your post appears to be satire. Just for the record.
Anyway wish I had more time to participate but glad to see new things to read here every day! As terrible as the news tends to be I've been very thankful to be informed by your perspectives.
Hope you are all safe and well at this late /early hour.

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Thanks NJT,

I removed that last link to the Blackwater story. Youre right, it certainly does appear to be satire. I had added it at the end because I had seen it reported numerous times but I obviously should have read it more closely! My bad.

I wouldn't be surprised to see that kind of shit happening in the near future. There is a Sherrif in Illinois who is refusing to evict tenants from apartments building that have been foreclosed. That's a problem I hadn't thought much about - all the families that could potentially be homeless even though they have paid their rents. How does a Sheriff deal this kind of problem, especially if it becomes widespread and the tenants have no where to go? I used to work for our local Sheriff so I have some idea what a big deal it is to evict anyone from their home! It is a very traumatic experience for every one involved and contrary to what some people may think, not easy for the Deputy Sheriff's who have to evict them.

"I set it down,
That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain..." -- Shakespeare, Hamlet, I, v

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Rumours of Marshall Law

Perhaps those rumours could be coming from Congressman Sherman's speech to congress.

Is there any way to embed a video in post? If there is, when you have some time smiling could you post the directions in a forum post.

"I set it down,
That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain..." -- Shakespeare, Hamlet, I, v

my point ...

About Paul and his reasons for writing the passage we're discussing: I don't know and neither (I suspect) does anyone else; all we can do about Paul's motives is speculate; and I have friends who say he never could have written the passage in question and it must have been added later.

This may be true or not; I would have no way of knowing ... but all this is more or less irrelevant to the point I was trying to make, which is:

Considering the audience for whom he was writing, and the conditions under which they were living at the time, there is NO WAY first century Roman Christians would have taken this passage seriously. And therefore there's no reason for us to take it seriously either.

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No student of the bible

I am no student of the bible and so-o-o not a fan of religion. Most of my knowledge of the 'good book' comes from Sunday school lessons (which I never liked) when I was a child. I agree we can only speculate about what Paul's motive may have been and that is if we choose to believe that what is written in the bible is what he actually said. There is a good chance first century Christians never heard this particular version of the story. Whatever the truth may be, it doesn't stop the Christian spinmeisters from picking and choosing the passages they need to keep the masses under control.

From: Judaism and Christianity - Two Thousand Years of Lies - 60 Years of State Terrorism
Book By Laura Knight-Jadczyk
"...what we see, in the end, is a psychopathic minority at the top of all the governments of the world using the faith of Christians and Jews alike (and Muslims) to pursue their rapacious goals of seeking ever more power and plunder. They do not even realize that they, themselves, or their offspring, will soon find themselves with nothing. As Lobaczewski writes in Political Ponerology:

The following question thus suggests [itself]: what happens if [psychopaths seek] power in leadership positions with international exposure? ... Goaded by their character, such people thirst for just that even though it would conflict with their own life interest, ...They do not understand that a catastrophe [will] ensue. Germs are not aware that they will be burned alive or buried deep in the ground along with the human body whose death they are causing.

O/T but I noticed this on the front page of SOTT today. smiling

Re My Point

You're right, Winter, it is not the main point and perhaps I distracted from it. I guess the more I understand about Christ's message the more I'm flabbergasted at the teachings of Christian religious leaders. Flabbergasted, that is, until I recall the psychopathology of power. Those are great quotes McJ. A parasite is at the height of its "power" the day before it kills the host.

not at all

I don't think you distracted from anything, and as for your other comments, I couldn't agree more.

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more here

That is from the book Political Ponerolgy and you can read more about it at this site.
Here's another snip:
" 'Unconscious psychological processes outstrip conscious reasoning, both in time and in scope, which makes many psychological phenomena possible.… Those people who use conversive operations too often for the purpose of finding convenient conclusions, or constructing some cunning paralogistic or paramoralistic statements, eventually begin to undertake such behavior for ever more trivial reasons, losing the capacity for conscious control over their thought process altogether. This necessarily leads to behavior errors which must be paid for by others as well as themselves.' (Lobaczewski, 152, 3)
...A normal person has all the necessary tools and data to solve a problem or to logically reach a conclusion, but if the solution holds ideas contradictory to firmly held beliefs it is ‘blocked’ from conscious awareness. This type of denial can be extremely harmful, leading to intense feelings of tension and bitterness...When a supporter of the current war in Iraq is confronted with the fact that nearly a million Iraqis have been killed as a result of his support, this fact may be subconsciously blocked."

I haven't read the book but have read extensive quotes. Knight cites from it frequently. It's on my 'need to read' list.
Carolyn Baker has a review of the book here at Atlantic Free Press.

"I set it down,
That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain..." -- Shakespeare, Hamlet, I, v

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Awe Winter..

Awe Winter!!
I don't get to your many other blogs often enough. I totally missed that.
Thanks for parking it there.
I'm going to read it right now.

Your a real treasure, you know. smiling

"I set it down,
That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain..." -- Shakespeare, Hamlet, I, v


Thanks to McJ and WP for the additional links.
I have just read your extensive article on Lobaczewski, WP. What a Tour-de-Force!
While I was aware of the destructiveness of the "pathocracy" through malevolence and incompetence (which it must necessarily promote), I was not aware of and am much heartened by Lobaczewski's description of the re-forming of socially supportive networks by "normal" people which eventually brings down the pathocracy. I see that this blog and the people involved here are part of this emerging and restorative network.
I am also encouraged by the affirmation of the primary role of education or the telling of truth to this same process. Again, this is what I see happening here. Thank you.

that's not my article!

Like everything else at Winter Parking, the piece about ponerology was mirrored from its original location on another site.

It was written "by Andrew M. Lobaczewski, with commentary and additional quoted material by Laura Knight-Jadczyk" and I simply reposted it where it's easy for me to find (and easy for everybody to read) ...

The original is here

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