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Carving Turkey After a NATO Roasting- Claims vs Reality

pennyforyourthoughts2 - 3 hours 6 min ago
Yup, it’s long! But this is a subject I’ve spent a lot of time on. Reading, researching &  reckoning for more then a year now...Still I've a bit more to to tell. Long term readers are aware that more then a year ago, I started a series of posts on the impending NATO destruction/destabilization of Turkey.  
Yes, that right more then a year has passed since I posted :Kurd/ ISIS Symbiosis- The impending destruction of Turkey.  &  Pt.2- Kurd/ ISIS Symbiosis- The impending destruction of Turkey  Believe me, before writing that and the subsequent follow up the idea rolled around in my head for months!
Afterwards there were dozens and dozens of post on the topic. Just a few more relinks:

Kurdistan- NATO's New Southern Flank

Pt3- Destabilizing Turkey & Kurd/ISIS Symbiosis- ISIS takes border towns

 Israel and the US love the Kurds  & ISIS/Kurd Symbiosis: Conquer Istanbul

As time passes my theory looks to have been correct. While I may not have or have had every detail nailed down and really how could I ,the basic premise is solid. In every way Turkey is being set on the global game table for carving up. Many knives are being sharpened. For the ordinary Turkish citizen, things are about to get much worse!

Shooting Down a Russian SU-24

The shoot down of the Russian plane was yet another cut in Turkey, the nations states torso.
Torso referencing the outline of the nation. Or the border. NATO being the slicer and dicer.
Refresh or read for the first time?  NATO bows out on Turkey. Turkey & Article 4

The op ed linked below from RT demonstrates that Turkey & Erdogan are being set up to take the fall for what I believe was a US orchestrated shoot down of the Russian plane.

RT- 'NATO didn’t buy into Turkish insanity'
In that headline, we see two classic propaganda tactics being employed- Turkish insanity- ad hominem & transference- NATO pushing it’s global war making goals onto Turkey
“I was immediately concerned that NATO might buy into the insanity being demonstrated by Turkey,”Johnson told RT.

“Fortunately, the reports coming out of the NATO meeting indicate that several of the NATO ministers were asking Turkey: ‘What in God’s name were you thinking? There were other ways of handling this without firing,’” he added.Yes, fortunately cooler heads prevailed. As if ! Can it get more obvious? Turkey is being demonized for the very action that was ok’d by the US/NATO. It is not believable that NATO occupied Turkey shot down the plane without the OK of the head of NATO- the US

Turkey’s Relations with NATO
Ever since our NATO membership in 1952, the North Atlantic Alliance has played a central role in Turkey’s security and contributed to its integration with the Euro-Atlantic community. Turkey, in return, has successfully assumed its responsibilities in defending the common values of the Alliance. Turkey also supports NATO’s transformation efforts, which are crucial for NATO’s success. It is therefore making substantial contributions to the NATO Response Force. A Force Command at high readiness level is established in IstanbulSo forth and so on- Read it for yourself

NATO bases in Turkey
Putin Warns After NATO Occupied Turkey Shot Down Russian Fighter Jet:  Putin was quoted word for word. The language employed  made it clear he was fully aware this was a NATO operation.

Lavrov understood this was some sort of provocation:  Lavrov: Downing of SU-24 Looks Like a Planned Provocation

Erdogan? - he’s justifying this incident to the domestic crowd, because frankly, there is nothing else he can do. This set up makes him appear irrational. He just won an election and he needs to appear a leader. And he isn't looking like leadership material. Perfect for destabilizing a nation!  Erdogan is on the defensive. And out of the loop completely! His claim regarding two planes is  perplexing?

"We knew there were two aircraft. One aircraft went back into Syria, and the second one was still in Turkish airspace and it was shot down by our aircraft," Erdogan told CNN.”
He’s been saying that from the get go?  Is this the information that was provided to him? Doesn't this suggest to us that Erdogan was and is completely out of the information loop? Particularly when one considers the fact that Obama didn't bother to speak to him immediately afterwards, but, was going to get around to it!

Obama said: "Turkey, like every country, has a right to defend its territory and its air space," adding he expected to speak to Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan in coming days.Smart money suggests he didn't even bother to talk to Erdogan- Why would he? The shoot down pretty much tells us all who is in charge of Turkey's military. And it isn't Erdogan.

Independent Turkey?
All that background finally waded through let's look together at some nonsensical claims I actually read on line. Via main stream and so called alternative regurgitator sites

Claim: Turkey is in bed with Islamists 

Reality:  NATO & NATO affiliated Turkey are cooperating with Islamists. And Kurds.

Claim: Turkey/Erdogan & Muslim Brotherhood- in bed.

Reality:  Muslim Brotherhood is a British intelligence creation/ integrated into US intelligence.
Muslim Brotherhood is also an elitist globalist organization

Making Erdogan what, a puppet of the elites? A sycophant?  I’m asking the people who make the claims? If Erdogan is in league with MB, as alleged, MB being  an apparatus of the Atlantacist intelligence operations then what does that make Erdogan?

Muslim Brotherhood :
Britain and the Muslim Brotherhood: Collaboration during the 1940s and 1950s By 1942 Britain had definitely begun to finance the Brotherhood. On 18 May British embassy officials held a meeting with Egyptian Prime Minister Amin Osman Pacha, in which relations with the Muslim Brotherhood were discussed and a number of points were agreed. One was that ‘subsidies from the Wafd [Party] to the Ikhwani el Muslimin [Muslim Brotherhood] would be discreetly paid by the [Egyptian] government and they would require some financial assistance in this matter from the [British] Embassy.’ -Eric Draitser- Unmasking the Muslim Brotherhood: Syria, Egypt, and BeyondIn examining the utterly insidious role that the Muslim Brotherhood is playing in Syria, one must begin with an understanding of the historical relationship between the Muslim Brotherhood and Western imperialism.  The organization was founded by Hassan al-Banna in 1928 with the intention of reestablishing a purer form of Islam as had existed centuries before.  However, this was merely the religious veneer that was created to mask the political intentions of the organization.  As explained in the Mother Jones article entitled What is the Muslim Brotherhood and Will It Take Over Egypt?, the author explains that, “The Muslim Brotherhood served as a battering ram against nationalists and communists, despite the Brothers’ Islam-based anti-imperialism, the group often ended up making common cause with the colonial British. Muslim Brotherhood- Part of the Globalist blight on humanity, indeed!

The Muslim Brotherhood has a global footprint, with the UK and Ireland serving as important hubs for international Muslim Brotherhood leadership activity.”

They also said that “members of the UAE branch of the Muslim Brotherhood, Al Islah [whose members have been among those convicted in Abu Dhabi yesterday] are active in Muslim Brotherhood networks in the UK and Ireland.”Go back to my 2013 post and take a look at the linked PDF's

And for good measure!

Devil's Game: How the US unleashed fundamentalist Islam -

Claim: Turkey is shipping ISIS oil

Reality- Britain is facilitating ISIS oil sales
Reality: Pipelines that transit through Turkey are being used, but, this does not imply implicit  knowledge by the Turkish state.
Reality- The Kurds are also transiting oil through Turkey’s Ceyhan pipeline 
Conclusion: Pipelines don’t discern. Complicity between Turkey and ISIS is unprovable

Britain's ties to ISIS oil sales

Key allies in the US and UK led war on Islamic State (ISIS) are covertly financing the terrorist movement according to senior political sources in the region. US and British oil companies are heavily invested in the murky geopolitical triangle sustaining ISIS’ black market oil sales. The Kurdish Regional Government (KRG) in Iraq and Turkish military intelligence (NATO affiliated) have both supported secret ISIS oil smuggling operations and even supplied arms to the terror group, according to Kurdish, Iraqi and Turkish officials.Crude Oil and ISIS

 I would love that everyone read the above linked pdf- But if you don’t wish to read all 16 pages please go to the conclusions drawn and read there. Pg 12 of 16

“The authors of this paper would like to make it clear from the very beginning that this has not been the case of a ‘smoking gun’. The evidence  has been  inconclusive.  But even  if volumes of ISIS crude found their way, beyond any reasonable doubt, to the international crude oil  markets  via the Ceyhan  terminal,  this fact  would not conclusively  point  to collusion between the Turkish authorities and the shadow network of smugglers, let alone ISIS operatives" Who is shipping this oil from Iraq into Turkey- The Kurds
Iraq has warned buyers of crude oil that any unauthorized oil purchases made from its territory could be used to fund activities by the extremist militant group, the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS).

In a statement on Wednesday, Iraq’s Oil Ministry said: “International purchasers [of crude oil] and other market participants should be aware that any oil exports made without the authorization of the Ministry of Oil may contain crude oil originating from fields under the control of [ISIS]. The only seller of Iraqi crude oil authorized by the Ministry of Oil is [Iraq’s state-owned oil company] SOMO.” Speaking on condition of anonymity, an informed source told Asharq Al-Awsat that ISIS was indeed selling Iraqi crude from captured refineries and oilfields. He said the crude was being sold to Kurdish traders in the border regions straddling Iraq, Iran and Syria, and was being shipped to Pakistan where it was being sold “for less than half its original price.” He added that many oilfields and refineries in the country remained outside government control. FT's 
 Since May, the Kurds have taken matters into their own hands and sold almost 40m barrels of oil to traders via the Turkish port of Ceyhan, all shipped via pipeline, providing Erbil with vital funds as they battle Islamist militants and shelter hundreds of thousands of refugees.Syrian Kurds earning millions in Oil Revenue- stealing Syria's oil

“Syrian Kurdistan has been exporting its oil from the Rmeilan refinery using a pipeline built by the Baath party government,” Iraqi Kurdish Rudaw news reported Monday.

“[The oil is then] transferred to the Alyuka refinery in the [Iraqi Kurdish] Zumar area, from there to Fishkhabour, and then on to Turkey’s Ceyhan port.”

A “well informed source” told the agency that “the revenue from importing this oil exceeds $10 million” a month, a massive boon for the Kurdish Democratic Union Party (PYD) that has overseen a dramatic expansion of territory as Kurdish troops have rolled back ISIS in recent months.Arab Weekly- Syria's Oil and Gas Wealth being Shared by Kurds and ISIS- 
Yet more of that KurdIShIS symbiosis!
Syria’s oil and gas wealth is being shared by ISIS and Kurdish armed groups, which heavily rely on it to finance war efforts.

At least 60% of Syria’s oil installations are in the east and north-east, in the areas around Raqqa, the capital of ISIS’s self-proclaimed caliphate, Deir ez-Zor on the Iraqi border and the Kurdish-held area of Al-Hasakah. These have been exploited by Islamist opposition groups and Kurdish militias for two years now.

Syria’s oil and gas wealth is being shared by ISIS and Kurdish armed groups, which heavily rely on it to finance war efforts, according to an oil worker in al-Hasakah who spoke to The Arab Weekly on condition of anonymity. “The Kurds control 274 fields, producing some 40,000 bar-rels of oil per day (bpd) in addition to 397,000 cubic metres of gas,” he said.

ISIS tightened its grip on the fields in the southern part of al-Hasakah after evicting the Free Syrian Army and other Islamic opposition groups. Some of the largest oil and gas fields — Shadadi, Marcada and al- Hol — are in ISIS-controlled terri-tory.

According to an oil employee who asked to be identified as JJ, some 419 oil fields producing more than 35,000 bpd and 67 gas fields with a daily production of 1 million cubic metres are controlled by ISIS.How do all the genius's out there think that "ISIS" transfers the oil out of Syria, past the Kurds who control the land just north of them? Think about it! KurdIShIS, that's how!

Here's NATO dumping all over Turkey:

I found this article whilst searching for information after the Paris incident

German General: NATO Article 5 won’t apply to Turkey’s buffer zone in Syria  

Turkey will not get a that buffer zone- That's been discussed here way back- NATO doesn't want a safe haven for refugees to impede their creation of Greater Israel/Kurdistan or cut Europe any slack!
 Interestingly, almost exactly a year ago on Oct. 8, 2014, Germany’s former Chief of General Staff and NATO chairman of the Military Committee, General Harald Kujat (ret.), criticized that Turkey is trying to drag NATO into a Syrian war for its own parochial interests.[2]In an interview on “Anne Will” ARD-TV broadcast, and stating almost the same words that Davutoglu said on CNN, General Kujat said “look, that’s what Turkey wants to provoke [NATO Article 5].  Therefore it keeps saying ‘we can’t do that alone, others have to participate.’”The former NATO general recommended removing Patriot batteries from Turkey to send a signal, and in August 2015 they were removed.[3]
The general continues and I am quoting him verbatim:
He continued bluntly: “Turkey basically wants to drag NATO into this situation because the actual goal of Turkey is to neutralize Assad…ISIS’s actions and what’s happening to the Kurds are subsidiary…and it has to be clearly said that an ally who behaves like this doesn’t deserve the protection of this alliance, an ally who doesn’t intervene for protection in a such tragic situation doesn’t deserve protection himself.”Claim: Turkey and especially Erdogan wants regime change in Syria?

Reality: NATO/Israel want regime change in Syria- No one has more to gain from pushing out the Assad government then NATO/Kurds/Israel. - To all the Erdogan/Turkey (nation state) finger pointers I ask: Where is the benefit to either Erdogan or the nation of Turkey?
And why are you promoting the NATO destabilization of Turkey narrative?

Claim: Turkey supports ISIS
Reality: NATO occupied Turkey supports ISIS. 
The nation state of Turkey has nothing to gain in supporting the mythical"ISIS" other then the disdain of the so called global community

Lots of nonsensical claims all around. Nothing to substantiate them. NATO is clearly set to carve up Turkey- More war and death will ensue.


I want to thank both james @ wpcGreen Crow.
Two bloggers who at least attempted to understand my theory and not ridicule, attack or deride me for having it

They have both serendipitously  written very complimentary pieces to this post and I feel truly blessed to have these two open minded folk in my circle of bloggers :)
james- Je Suis (Un) TurkeyGC- Two Patsies---Then, and Now
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Gnostic Media RIP David McGowan: Laurel Canyon- Covert Ops & Dark Heart of the Hippie Dream

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Wed, 11/25/2015 - 18:37
 "It has come to my attention that Dave succumbed to cancer yesterday, Nov. 22, at 12:47 PM"

Jan @ Gnostic Media & Podcasts  reposted the two interviews he did with David McGowan, a couple of years back, the day after Dave passed on.

I'm putting  both interviews up here again:

Episode # 1

This episode is an interview with Dave McGowan, titled “The CIA and the “Magic” of Laurel Canyon – Covert Ops & the Dark Heart of the Hippie Dream” and is being released on Sunday, December 01, 2013. This interview with Dave was recorded today.

Episode # 2 
 Today Dave McGowan rejoins the Gnostic Media podcast for part 2 to discuss “The CIA and the Music of Laurel Canyon – The Magic Carpet Ride”. This episode is being released on Tuesday, April 8, 2014, and was recorded April 3, 2014.
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Lavrov: Downing of SU-24 Looks Like a Planned Provocation

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Wed, 11/25/2015 - 09:42
Mr Lavrov certainly had some interesting thoughts: 


So Turkish FM apologizes to his counterpart and NATO stays silent.

The downing of a Russian warplane in Syria by Turkey appears to be a pre-planned provocation, the Russian Foreign Minister said. Ankara failed to communicate with Russia over the incident, he added.
We have serious doubts that this act was unintentional. It looks very much like a preplanned provocation,” Lavrov said, citing Turkey’s failure to maintain proper communication with Russia, the abundance of footage of the incident and other evidence.

Lavrov added that many Russian partners called the incident “an obvious ambush.

Earlier in the day, Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu slammed Russia for "attacks on Turkmen" in Syria, which according to Ankara preceded the incident with the downed Su-24.
Lavrov speaks approx 40 minutes 
The Russian FM said the region where the incident happened is not just home to Turkmen people. There are also hundreds of foreign fighters affiliated with known terrorist groups and elements of their infrastructure such as weapons depots and command points there, he said.
I asked [Turkish FM Çavuşoğlu] whether Turkey’s close attention to this region, including the calls to create a buffer zone there, was motivated by a desire to protect this infrastructure from destruction. I didn’t receive any reply to this question,” Lavrov said. He added the downing of the Russian warplane occurred shortly after a series of airstrikes on terrorist oil convoys and facilities by the Russian Air Force. The incident “sheds new light” on the issue, according to the Russian foreign minister.The Russian diplomat criticized NATO for failing to express condolences to Russia over the loss of its troops lives.“Very strange statements were voiced after a NATO meeting called by the Turks, which didn’t express any regret or condolences and in effect were aimed at covering up what the Turkish Air Force did yesterday,” Lavrov said. “A similar reaction came from the European Union.”Lavrov reiterated the statements of the Russian Defense Ministry, which denied Ankara’s allegations that the Russian warplane had violated Turkish airspace.

The Russian FM said the region where the incident happened is not just home to Turkmen people. There are also hundreds of foreign fighters affiliated with known terrorist groups and elements of their infrastructure such as weapons depots and command points there, he said.“I asked [Turkish FM Çavuşoğlu] whether Turkey’s close attention to this region, including the calls to create a buffer zone there, was motivated by a desire to protect this infrastructure from destruction. I didn’t receive any reply to this question,” Lavrov said. He added the downing of the Russian warplane occurred shortly after a series of airstrikes on terrorist oil convoys and facilities by the Russian Air Force. The incident “sheds new light” on the issue, according to the Russian foreign minister.

He added that even if Turkey’s words were taken on face value, its actions contradict its own position expressed in 2012, after Syria took down a Turkish military plane. At the time, then-Prime Minister Erdogan told the Turkish parliament that a short incursion into another nation’s airspace cannot justify an attack on it.Russia’s relations with Syria will change after the attack on the Russian plane, Lavrov said, adding that Turkey, which is now calling for dialogue, should have done more to communicate with Russia prior to and right after the incident.Moscow will measure its response to limit the harm done to Turkish and Russian businessmen, who had nothing to do with the incident, and would decide on a proper action, Lavrov said.“We cannot fail to react to what happened. Not because we must retaliate. It’s just that there are too many issues in Turkey that pose a direct terrorist threat to our citizens. And not only ours,” he said.Lavrov said after canceling his planned visit to Istanbul that Moscow doesn’t indent to send any senior officials to Turkey or receive any senior Turkish officials. At the same time, phone channels remain open, as evidenced by the call with Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu.The Russian minister said there was a question of American involvement in the downing of the Russian plane. According to his sources, the US demands all members of the anti-IS coalition led by Washington, who use US-made military aircraft, coordinate all deployments with the US military.I wonder if this demand of the Americans covers… Turkey. If it does, I wonder whether Turkey asked permission from the US to fly its US-made planes and take down – let’s say 'an unidentified' – plane over Syrian territory,” Lavrov said.The senior Russian diplomat said the problems at the Turkish-Syrian border could be solved by simply closing it, as suggested by French President Francois Hollande during his meeting with US President Barack Obama in Washington.“President Hollande suggested measures to close the Turkish-Syrian border to stop the flow of militants and finances to terrorists. It’s remarkable that President Obama didn’t react to it. I believe it’s a good suggestion and that during the visit tomorrow President Hollande will tell us details. We are prepared to consider these measures in earnest. Many people say that sealing the border would effectively eliminate the terrorist threat in Syria, Lavrov said.
Why wouldn't the US jump at the bit to seal the Turkish border?

Interesting reads:

NATO is less then supportive of Turkey's action:  

Diplomats present at the meeting told Reuters that while none of the 28 NATO envoys defended Russia's actions, many expressed concern that Turkey did not escort the Russian warplane out of its airspace. "There are other ways of dealing with these kinds of incidents," said one diplomat who declined to be named.
How downing of Russian jet will help Islamic State & harm Assad -Moscow’s entry led the US to back the Vienna talks, the first real attempt by great powers to get West Asia’s fragmented regional players to sit around a table on Syria. -The icing on the diplomatic cake was the (alleged) IS attack on Paris. - The peace process and building of an anti-IS coalition had barely begun when this incident took place. If the Russian and Turkish confrontation escalates, all this will be still born. The IS, insofar as they care about such niceties, should be happy. The real loser may be Assad--his first chance at an international “Get Out of Jail Free” card is now in danger.
Cui Bono? As always.
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Analyzing The Paris FALSE FLAG...YES, It Was Another FALSE FLAG...of course

bigdanblogger - Tue, 11/24/2015 - 21:15
Below: picture of Bataclan in Paris where suicide bombers exploded. Really???

The point of this post is to acknowledge that people around the world are waking up to the fact that governments do FALSE FLAGS and blame Muslims to keep the "war on terror" going and to strip liberties from citizens in their countries in the name of keeping them safe from the Muslim terrorist FALSE FLAGS they're doing. There is NO WAY at this point in 2015 that the U.S. and Israel and Britain and all the advanced countries like France DO NOT KNOW "TERRORISTS" ARE DOING THIS AHEAD OF TIME WITH ALL THE NSA SPYING, SATELLITES, ETC...ETC... Therefore, these countries are doing the FALSE FLAGS and blaming Muslims. There is NO WAY rag-tag cavemen Muslims are continually outsmarting these countries in 2015. The mainstream media does not allow the most important first question: WAS IT A FALSE FLAG? The place to ask this question and get answers is THE INTERNET, which is the place that the mainstream media and their controllers fear the most. Just the fact that the mainstream media NEVER asks the question WAS IT A FALSE FLAG? implicates them as being complicit in the FALSE FLAGS. And one of their jobs is to RIDICULE those asking this important question.

Let's begin here: The first question in any "terror attack" should be a question that is NOT ALLOWED BY THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA & GOVERNMENTS: WAS IT A FALSE this great article below:

The First Question to Ask After Any Terror Attack: Was It a False Flag? Presidents, Prime Ministers, Congressmen, Generals, Spooks, Soldiers and Police ADMIT to False Flag Terror. In the following instances, officials in the government which carried out the attack (or seriously proposed an attack) admit to it, either orally, in writing, or through photographs or videos.

Political author Gearoid O Colmain discusses the Paris attacks with RT International

The WEST created ISIS and the terror acts are orchestrated by the WEST:

Marine Ken O'Keefe: SAME THING: the WEST created ISIS and are orchestrating the "terror attacks":

Here's the criminal terrorist mainstream media promoting the FALSE FLAGS blamed on Muslims:

French false flag? .01%: ‘We’re an empire, and create our own reality. While you’re studying, we’ll act again. We’re history’s actors, and all of you will be left to just study what we do.’

Breaking Bullcrap - Episode 1: ISIS Islamic State Worldwide Deception Exposed (Redsilverj)

And here's what started it all: THE 911 FALSE FLAG - Google "911 five dancing Israelis".Five Israeli's were caught on 911 filming the first plane that hit the Twin Towers, which means they had FOREKNOWLEDGE. THESE were the people celebrating on 911, not Palestinians like Donald Trump said:

FOX did a 4-part series below about the biggest spy ring ever busted and it was on 911:

Below: so this guy was through a terrorist explosion...and his hair is perfectly styled and he's on a cell phone looking into the camera. Really???

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NATO Responds to Russian Attempts to Maintain Syrian Territorial Integrity

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Tue, 11/24/2015 - 19:53
In light of the NATO shoot down of the Russian fighter jet, via NATO occupied Turkey,  I'm re-linking the post from November 4/2015 that asked the question- What if Russia attacked Syria's Kurds on behalf of Assad?: Rudaw

That question has been answered for us all! 

NATO will shoot down Russian planes operating in Syrian territory as requested by the Syrian government  in order to support their Kurdish terrorists as they (NATO/ISRAEL/Kurds) create the terror state of Kurdistan aka Greater Israel.

Especially relevant when one considers the FACT that it was an F-15 that entered Syrian territory to shoot down the Russian jet. Yes, I said Syrian territory- Not NATO's attempt at annexing Syrian territory for Kurdistan- I'm talking Syrian territory!

Flashback to November 4/2015  post:
 Interesting and provocative read!
btw: we aren't talking "Syria's Kurds" the militias are chock full of PKK aka Turkey's Kurds

Atlantic Council- The Kurds and the future of Assad

PKK fighters returned to Syria during the civil war. Jordi Tejel, an expert on Syrian Kurds says, “already in April 2011 the PKK sent one thousand armed fighters to establish the YPG in Syria. The PYD’s militia, the People’s Protection Units (YPG), created by former PKK fighters....
Rudaw piece authored by: Paul Davis is a retired US Army military intelligence analyst and a consultant to the American intelligence community specializing in the Middle East with a concentration on Kurdish affairs. Currently he is the President of the consulting firm JANUS Think in Washington D.C.

Ties nicely in with this news: US Moves f-15's to Syria 
F-15Cs are armed with only air-to-air weaponry, making the plane unnecessary in operations against ISIS, which doesn't have a functioning air element. Instead, the jets could have one of two purposes in the region — they could either be used to help protect Turkey's border against periodic incursions by Syrian jets and helicopters.
Or, under certain circumstances, the F-15Cs could be used to help counter Russian activity over Syria. A hypothetical no-fly zone over northern Syria near the Turkish border, for instance, would have to be maintained using planes that could enforce the zone against both Russian and Syrian aircraft. In plain talk the F-15's may be used to protect the NATO created, "greater Israel" expansion/ally, inevitable terror state - Kurdistan.  
Protecting the NATO created 'greater Israel/Kurdistan was at play when one considers where the Russian jet was shot down. As mentioned in the earlier post:
Putin Warns After NATO Occupied Turkey Shot Down Russian Fighter JetObama- the Peace President is a-ok with NATO occupied Turkey shooting down the jet- That's cause it was a NATO operation! And of course he is lying about the 'defensive' aspect.It was not defense of Turkey's territory or airspace.  NATO acted offensively to protect their Kurdish and other Jihadi's as they steal Syrian territory. Obama: Turkey Has Right to Defend Its Territory, Airspace  "Russian military aircraft are targeting moderate Syrian opposition groups very close to Turkey's borders"NATO 's Kurds. In Syria.

 NATO held an emergency meeting Tuesday to discuss the incident.Not surprising.

 The military spokesman also said that a Russian marine was killed when an Mi-8 helicopter sent to rescue the downed pilots came under fire from rebel-controlled territory.US President Barack Obama and French President Francois Hollande pressed Russia on Tuesday to focus its attacks in Syria on Islamic State militants

Leave our Kurdish jihadis alone as they steal Syrian territory for the benefit of Israel. Please.
 "Obama said the United States did not have enough information yet to form conclusions about the incident, but added similar confrontations could be avoided if Russia stopped attacking "moderate" Syrian rebels"There are no moderates!  I'd say one heck of a conclusion was already taken. A plane was downed. Dead persons. And pushing the war agenda to the edge. Obama threatens...
 If Russia directs its energies toward Islamic State forces, "some of those conflicts or potentials for mistakes or escalation are less likely to occur," Obama said. Obama said: "Turkey, like every country, has a right to defend its territory and its air space," adding he expected to speak to Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan in coming days.What?! Obama has not even talked with Erdogan, the President of Turkey? But, will get to it in 'coming days'?- Guess he's too busy plotting with Hollande? Seems weird.

Where is Erdogan? 

Odd that Erdogan isn't doing much talking about this incident?  Where is Erdogan?
All over the news it's Obama and Hollande.  And NATO backing Turkey. But where is Erdogan? I can't find any statements from Erdogan. Oh wait a minute, I've found Erdogan's first statement regarding this incident-

 Speaking at the annual "Teacher's Day" reception held at the Presidential Palace in Ankara on Tuesday""The reason that worse incidents have not taken place in the past regarding Syria is the cool-headedness of Turkey. Nobody should be in doubt that we made our best efforts to avoid the latest incident. Everyone must respect the right of Turkey to protect its borders," Erdoğan said in his first official reaction to the downing of the war plane."We downed 1 of 2 warplanes of unknown nationality that violated our airspace upon 10 warnings" he added.At the 'Teachers Day" reception? Of unknown nationality? What? That seems a rather vague statement from Erdogan. When compared to Obama and Hollande's talk?

“Despite all warnings, a fighter jet of unknown identity was interfered within the rules of engagement. The jet unfortunately insisted on its violation despite it had been warned ten times and our F-16’s downed one of the jets as a result of the intervention,” Erdoğan said. Erdogan's not talking tough. Not like Obama is. Why? If he was hunky dory with this shootdown.
Obama hasn't spoken to Erdogan? But will in coming days? Something ain't right!
Russia deploys missile cruiser off Syria coast, ordered to destroy any target posing dangerMoscow plans to suspend military cooperation with Ankara after the downing of a Russian bomber by Turkish air forces, Russian General Staff representatives said on Tuesday. Further measures to beef up Russian air base security in Syria will also be taken. Three steps as announced by top brass:
  1. Each and every strike groups’ operation is to be carried out under the guise of fighter jets
  2. Air defense to be boosted with the deployment of Moskva guided missile cruiser off Latakia coast with an aim to destroy any target that may pose danger
  3. Military contacts with Turkey to be suspended
Sergey Rudskoy, a top official with the Russian General Staff, condemned the attack on the Russian bomber in Syrian airspace by a Turkish fighter jet as “a severe violation of international law”. He stressed that the Su-24 was downed over the Syrian territory. The crash site was four kilometers away from the Turkish border, he said.
 Rudskoy said the Russian warplane did not violate Turkish airspace. Additionally, according to the Hmeymim airfield radar, it was the Turkish fighter jet that actually entered Syrian airspace as it attacked the Russian bomber.

The Turkish fighter jet made no attempts to contact Russian pilots before attacking the bomber, Rudskoy added. “We assume the strike was carried out with a close range missile with an infra-red seeker,” Rudskoy said. “The Turkish jet made no attempts to communicate or establish visual contact with our crew that our equipment would have registered. The Su-24 was hit by a missile over Syria’s territory.Russia now plans to implement new measures aimed at strengthening the security of the country’s air base in Syria and in particular to bolster air defense. Russian guided missile cruiser Moskva, equipped with the ‘Fort’ air defense system, similar to the S-300, will be deployed off Latakia province's coast. "We warn that every target posing a potential threat will be destroyed,” lieutenant general Sergey Rudskoy said during the briefing. The Moskva (‘Moscow’) missile cruise is a flagship vessel of the Russian Black Sea fleet and is one of the fleet’s two biggest ships. The cruiser was stationed in Sevastopol but left in summer 2015 after being deployed to the Mediterranean Sea where it joined Russia’s standing naval force in the Mediterranean. Since September 30, the Moskva cruiser acts as a covering force for the Russian air forces in Syria while deployed in the eastern Mediterranean. “All military contacts with Turkey will be suspended,” Rudskoy added.Read the rest at RT

Please check out GC's work too! She's been takin' care of business. 
Cheers GC :)

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Putin Warns After NATO Occupied Turkey Shot Down Russian Fighter Jet

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Tue, 11/24/2015 - 08:58
I have long discerned between the goals/ agenda of Turkey the nation state  versus NATO occupied Turkey. Apparently I am one of a few persons who recognize and understand this extremely important difference. Make no mistake it is an important difference! NATO is working directly AGAINST the wishes of the Turkish state, concerning the creation of Kurdistan. This topic has been written about repeatedly-
As recently as yesterday: A Sober Look at the West’s Kurdish Allies. As Opposed to the Alcohol Idiocy...
 "Turkish leaders appear to be drawing a firm line against further manifestations of Kurdish separatism, especially in Syria President Erdoğan has stated explicitly that his government will not allow the emergence of a de facto independent Kurdish region in northern Syria akin to Iraqi Kurdistan. That is not surprising. Erdoğan and his colleagues fear that Iraqi Kurdistan and Kurdish-controlled areas in Syria would eventually link up to create an extensive, hostile presence along Turkey’s southern border"
Reading Putin's language below it is very, very clear to me that it was NATO occupied Turkey that shot down the Russian plane. Pay attention to Putin's words, he parsed each of them very, very carefully! Putin understands that NATO occupied Turkey shot down the Russian plane!

Directly quoting Putin:
I'm also pointing out to my readers that the Guardian is spinning Putin's quote out of context.
Nowhere in Putin's statement was Turkey specifically cited as an accomplice of terrorists
"Putin calls Turkey 'accomplices of terrorists" This is a NATO meme.

Speaking ahead of his meeting with King Abdullah II of Jordan in Sochi, the Russian leader said:

"This event is beyond the normal framework of fighting against terrorism. Of course our military is doing heroic work against terrorism... But the loss today is a stab in the back, carried out by the accomplices of terrorists.  I can’t describe it in any other way. Our aircraft was downed over the territory of Syria, using air-to-air missile from a Turkish F-16. It fell on the Syrian territory 4km from Turkey.Neither our pilots nor our jet threatened the territory of Turkey. This is obvious. They are fighting terrorists in the northern areas around Latakia, where militants are located, mainly people who originated in Russia, and they were pursuing their direct duty, to make sure these people do not return to Russia. These are people who are clearly international terrorists.Taking into account that we signed an agreement on deconflicting with the US, and as we know Turkey was among the ones that has joined the US coalition. Since Isis has such huge resources of hundreds of millions and billions of dollars coming from illicit oil sales, and they are protected by the armed forces of other states, then it’s clear why they are so brazen, why they are killing people, why they are carrying out terrorist attacks throughout the world including in the heart of Europe.We will analyse everything, and today’s tragic event will have significant consequences, including for Russia-Turkish relations. We have always treated Turkey as a friendly state. I don’t know who was interested in what happened today, certainly not us. And instead of immediately getting in contact with us, as far as we know, the Turkish side immediately turned to their partners from Nato to discuss this incident, as if we shot down their plane and not they ours.
- "the accomplices of terrorists" = NATO

-Deconfliction agreement with the US. Leader of NATO

-Turkey is a partner of the US coalition, NATO occupied

-ISIS has resources from illicit oil sales, the US and NATO allies have NEVER ONCE impeded or blocked ISIS from this revenue source. 

- Putin points out duplicity of NATO nations regarding ISIS oil smuggling. Russia bombs ISIS oil smuggling operation in progress- Curbing their ability to generate funds for black market weapons purchases

-Terror attacks including in the heart of Europe- NATO Stay Behinds/NATO terror.
Paris Attacks- Cui Bono? Think NATO's Secret Armies AKA Gladio!

- Turkey (nation state) and Russia have had good relations "Friendly state"- Who would want to impede that? NATO would. Because NATO is in the process of destroying Turkey

 - NATO occupied Turkey immediately conferred with their partners in crime- NATO
"the Turkish side immediately turned to their partners from Nato to discuss this incident"

It clear to me that Putin knows this was a NATO operation.


 Dear readers: I ask that you consider this question when faced with misleading claims that Turkey "moved it's border"?

Why would Turkey, the nation state, move it's border to protect Kurdistan in Syria?
The answer?  Turkey the nation state would NOT 'move it's border' to protect Kurdistan.
However, Turkey the NATO occupied state ,would indeed move/claim a border to protect Kurdistan while destroying the territorial integrity of Syria 

The Rubin CenterSyrian Kurdish Dissident: Break Syria Into Pieces

May 16, 2012 By

 Update # 2:

Kurdistan through to the Med:

Look at this map and think about where the Russia jet was shot down?
And boy oh boy is it good to know I'm not alone in discussing the NATO creation of Kurdistan aka greater Israel- Christof Lehman March 2015


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David McGowan Has Left This World

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Mon, 11/23/2015 - 17:55
He passed yesterday. November 22/2015

This was the message I received via email from Meria Heller, yesterday.
But didn't check till today.

Just got this from Dave McGowan's brother: Craig McGowan3 hrsDavid passed today 11/22/2015 at 12:47 PM PST. So passes the Greatest Researcher and unassailable fountain of TRUTH of our time, possibly of any time. Your Legacy will outlive all time.He will be missed. Without a doubt.

From earlier today:
A Sober Look at the West’s Kurdish Allies. As Opposed to the Alcohol Idiocy...
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A Sober Look at the West’s Kurdish Allies. As Opposed to the Alcohol Idiocy...

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Mon, 11/23/2015 - 16:03

I've gotten to read in so many spaces- Superficial. Dependent on main stream media spoon fed memes and willing to abuse others.

Dedicated to all the 'cheerleaders' for NATO's Kurdish Sunni Muslim jihadis! Witting and duped.
When I said, the PKK functions as a stay behind army- keeping Turkey always on guard?And got responses like 'ha ha ha'? NATO designated PKK as a terrorist group to pay lip service to Turkey while always keeping Turkey on edge. You all should pay particular attention to the fact, as I've pointed out,  Barzani is in NATO's crosshairs- He is not favoured. Because the PKK are the terrorist/ leaders of choice at this time.

It was the PKK/NATO that bred the Goran movement.
As mentioned here:  PKK Challenges Barazani in Iraq- One ring to rule them all?

It was the PKK/NATO that bred the YPG. 
As mentioned here: What if Russia attacked Syria's Kurds on behalf of Assad?: Rudaw

Behind the PKK/YPG/Goran is NATO. This is a familiar scenario. Or should be? As I mentioned more then a year ago - Think KLA
As mentioned here: November 2014/ Kurd/ ISIS Symbiosis- The impending destruction of Turkey.

Abundant ad hominems aside- CATO mentions the need for a sober look at the Kurdish allies. I laugh!  Why do I laugh? I've had my sober look already. And see more trouble. More war. More misery. More destabilization.  More refugees. As intended. CATO's sober look reads like a  preparatory narrative for "Oh we didn't know this was going to happen" I can see it now.... Unintended consequences. 


One of the few apparent successes in the wreckage that has characterized the US-led policies in Iraq and Syria has been the role of the Kurds. The emergence of what seemed to be a prosperous, democratic Kurdish region in northern Iraq was its principal bright spot. Moreover, the Kurds have proven to be extremely capable fighters. The ability of Kurdish forces, the Peshmerga, to defend territory from ferocious ISIS military assaults, and even inflict significant defeats on the Islamist insurgents, has increased the ranks of Western, especially American, admirers. The Peshmerga’s tenacious resistance, despite having to rely on antiquated military hardware, has stood in stark contrast to the pitiful performance of the well-equipped, US-trained Iraqi army that ignobly fled encounters with ISIS and relinquished control of major urban centers, such as Mosul and Ramadi, with scarcely a fight.Although the successes of Iraqi Kurdish forces have received the most attention, their Syrian colleagues have been nearly as successful. Their victory over ISIS in the city of Kobani near the Turkish border was only the most prominent of those triumphs. Kurdish units have gained control over significant swaths of territory elsewhere in northern Syria.
The Obama administration has begun to step up direct military assistance to the Peshmerga. This became quite apparent when the United States provided massive air cover to the Kurdish units that recently expelled ISIS from the city of Sinjar in northern Iraq. That victory threatens important ISIS supply lines between territories it controls in Syria and areas it occupies in Iraq. Kurdistan has acquired a growing roster of advocates in the United States. Indeed, some opinion leaders have urged Washington to downgrade its support of the Baghdad government and place greater reliance on relations with Erbil, the capital of Iraqi Kurdistan. A few outspoken supporters even regard Kurdistan as second only to Israel as a reliable, democratic US ally in the Middle East - a view encouraged by influential Israelis.Kurdistan's advocates (lobby)  have been busy for a good while. As mentioned here on at least two previous occasions. 
And Israel loves the Kurds!  Cause "Kurdistan" is greater Israel! Covered that  fact so many times here I've lost count!!!
Washington tossed Maliki to the curb, long ago downgrading it's support of Baghdad.
So we are witnessing a process in action, not one that is yet to come.

A more sober view is needed. The Kurds are indeed capable fighters, and they are vehement opponents of ISIS and other manifestations of Islamic extremism. However, both the Iraqi Kurds and their Syrian counterparts have their own political agendas. And those agendas inevitably cause problems for the Baghdad government and for Turkey, a key member of NATO.
The notion that Iraqi Kurdistan is merely a semi-autonomous region within a united Iraq is little more than a convenient, and increasingly implausible, diplomatic fiction. The reality is that Kurdistan is an independent state in everything but name, with its own military force (the Peshmerga), its own flag, and its own currency. The Kurdistan regional government (KRG) in Erbil increasingly bypasses the central government to strike lucrative deals with foreign corporations, especially to sell oil on the international market - often over Baghdad’s explicit objections.It was a revealing development when the forces that liberated Sinjar all flew the Kurdish flag. The Iraqi national flag was nowhere to be seen. The same display of Kurdish separatism was evident during the earlier victory of Syrian Kurdish forces in Kobani. The reality is that Kurdish leaders have no enthusiasm for or loyalty to the Iraqi and Syrian states. Despite sometimes intense internal bickering (especially among Syrian Kurds), their overarching goal is the creation of a Greater Kurdistan. That entity would encompass not only the majority Kurdish regions in Iraq and Syria, but a major portion of southeastern Turkey as well.Ha, ha ha liberated Sinjar! - Yes, Sinjar was liberated. From Iraq! And a connection was made, between Iraq and Syria for an expanded Kurdistan.

Flashback:  Sinjar: Creating a Crucial Supply Route for KurdIShIS & Annexing Iraqi Territory
Turkey is especially nervous about Kurdish military successes. Ankara regards Iraqi Kurdistan as the probable embryo of a Greater Kurdistan that would eventually seek to incorporate Turkey’s own restless Kurdish minority. The KRG’s apparent willingness to provide safe havens to armed insurgents of Turkey’s Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK), which has launched numerous attacks into Turkey, further angers the Turkish government and has led Ankara’s troops to conduct repeated punitive expeditions inside Iraqi Kurdistan. (Against the PKK. Because Barzani and Turkey have good relations)Turkish leaders appear to be drawing a firm line against further manifestations of Kurdish separatism, especially in Syria President Erdoğan has stated explicitly that his government will not allow the emergence of a de facto independent Kurdish region in northern Syria akin to Iraqi Kurdistan. That is not surprising. Erdoğan and his colleagues fear that Iraqi Kurdistan and Kurdish-controlled areas in Syria would eventually link up to create an extensive, hostile presence along Turkey’s southern border. Already happening!
Moreover, the principal Syrian Kurdish faction, the Democratic Union Party (PYD), and its armed contingent, the People’s Protection Units (YPG), appear to have even closer ties to the Marxist PKK inside Turkey than the KRG. Expanded Kurdish power, therefore, is seen as a dire menace to Turkey’s sovereignty and unity.YPG/PKK= Same/Same. Turkey's sovereignty. NATO could care less. Reread or read the more then year old post, linked above, Kurd/ISIS symbiosis the impending destruction of Turkey

If that factor is not enough to induce caution on the part of Western policymakers, recent developments have also cast doubt on the narrative of Iraq Kurdistan as a stable, prosperous, democratic entity. The Erbil government has faced increasing financial woes over the past year, especially with the plunge in global oil prices, which has greatly eroded the KRG’s principal source of revenue. That problem is exacerbated by blatant cronyism and corruption. As Kurdistan’s economic success story has faded, so too has the region’s reputation as a bastion of democracy. Human Rights Watch slammed the government’s recent behavior, especially that of the dominant political party, the Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP) headed by Masoud Barzani, who has been the President of the KRG since 2005. Joe Stark, Deputy Middle East Director for Human Rights Watch, is especially caustic. “The KDP claims to be rights–respecting,” he notes, but it “has a history of shutting down critical voices.”The political trend is not encouraging. Barzani has remained in office despite the expiration of his legal mandate. Worse, his government has engineered a crackdown on the two opposition parties, the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) and Goran (“Change”). The culmination occurred in late October when the KDP unilaterally removed four opposition ministers from their government posts and replaced them with KDP loyalists. At the height of the controversy, KDP-controlled security forces even prevented the speaker of the regional parliament from returning to Erbil. Those forces also closed down two television channels, including one controlled by Goran, which had been critical of Barzani. Much to the dismay of Kurdistan’s Western supporters, the KRG increasingly looks like a Putin-style, illiberal democracy riddled with cronyism and corruption.Bad, bad Barzani....
Although Kurdish forces may be useful military allies against ISIS, Western leaders need to go into any alliance with their eyes wide open. Cooperating with the Kurds entails a number of troubling outcomes that directly contradict other official US and NATO goals. Those objectives include preserving the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Iraq and Syria and not supporting measures that cause problems for a fellow NATO member, Turkey. Western leaders face some difficult and potentially risky choices.
Unintended consequences, of course. Rolls eyes and ends this post with disgust. It's been obvious to me that the US and NATO never intended to preserve the territorial integrity of Iraq or Syria. And the YPG has been nothing but a means to destroy Syria. As the PKK is the means to destroy Turkey.
I have more to say about Turkey's conundrum as another commenter calls it. Because Turkey's problem, which has been Iraq and Syria's problem will be Iran's soon enough
P5+1 is a distraction. Early Seeds of Iranian destabilization cross the Turkish borderBut hey, I'm just a "kurd hater" LOL! (dedicated to the ad hominem flingers everywhere)
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Donald Trump's Presidential "Heel Turn"

freedominourtime - Mon, 11/23/2015 - 01:35

Ladies and gentlemen, the 45th President of the United States.

Donald Trump’s presidential campaign makes perfect sense once it is understood to be the political equivalent of what is called a “heel turn” in professional wrestling. 
In 2007, before becoming a “reality TV” star in his own right, Trump was cast by World Wrestling Entertainment for a major role in an extended storyline that culminated in Wrestlemania 23. The climax of that pay-per-view event was a proxy battle between wrestlers representing Trump and WWE Chairman Vince McMahon. The victor would shave the loser’s head in the center ring. 

A standard-issue bout of scripted, artfully choreographed mayhem ensued, during which Trump executed a cheap-shot, blind-side tackle of McMahon. After Trump’s surrogate emerged victorious, he gleefully inflicted a humiliating tonsure on his rival – the only authentic injury inflicted during the entire affair. 
Every pro wrestling persona embodies a marketable “angle.” The WWE character called Donald Trump © was a narcissistic billionaire blowhard who was supposedly tough enough to do what was necessary to bring down the “establishment.” Although he was clearly the fan favorite, Trump didn’t choose to be a “face” – that is, a good guy –because “heels” are always more popular. Eight years later, Trump has resurrected his WWE character for use in the Republican presidential primaries, which are every bit as farcical as– albeit immeasurably more harmful than -- the steroid-saturated soap opera called pro “wrestling.”

The most coveted quality in a pro wrestling performer is “heat” – the ability to attract attention, whether in the form of adulation or vilification. In wrestling, polarization is the easiest way to generate heat. The same is true in politics, which generally is an exercise in mobilizing hatreds. 
Wrestling arenas are regularly filled with thousands of people who have paid substantial amounts to join in the collective execration of the designated “heel.” Similar dynamics exist in political rallies, but there is one important difference: The target of focused hostility will be somebody other than the figure on stage. Occasionally a heckler in the crowd will emerge and provide the audience with a more immediate hate target. This appears to be what happened at Trump’s rally in Birmingham on November 21.
Local agitator Mercutio Southall, Jr., began chanting “Black lives matter!” during Trump’s speech, inciting a scuffle and disrupting the event. According to the account of a Washington Post reporter on the scene, one of the Trump supporters in attendance “punched and attempted to choke” Southall, while a female supporter – to her credit – pleaded: “Don’t choke him!”

After he became aware of the disruption, Trump exclaimed, “Get him the hell out of here, will you please?” He then launched into a soliloquy – at once self-pitying and self-aggrandizing – complaining about how the media would depict the event, and inviting applause for handling a heckler more assertively than Bernie Sanders did when Black Lives Matter protesters simply commandeered the microphone during a campaign event in Seattle
The punches reported by the Washington Post correspondent weren’t visible in the available video of the incident, and if any blows landed they probably had as much impact as the typical “stage punch” one sees at a professional “wrestling” event. Like a “jobber” hired to perform alongside a “pushed” or featured wrestling star, Southall did his best to “sell” the fight. Trump’s reaction to the news that Southall had been “roughed up” was not to point out that the evidence supporting that claim was ambiguous, but to suggest that a beating would have been warranted. 
“Maybe he should have been roughed up, because it was absolutely disgusting what he was doing,” Trump told Fox News, reveling in his role as a “heel.” His next words underscore the fact that he is engaged in a performance, rather than a conventional political campaign: “I have a lot of fans, and they were not happy about it [Southall’s interruption]. And this was a very obnoxious guy who was a trouble-maker who was looking to make trouble.” (Emphasis added.)
Trump has “fans,” not “constituents” or “supporters.” Conflict being the key to building a fan base, I found myself entertaining the cynical thought that Trump might have hired Southall to stage the disruption as a way to build “heat.” This wouldn’t be necessary, given Trump’s natural gift for polarization – and the growing ease he displays in his chosen role as an American avatar of Benito Mussolini.
Donald Trump’s official campaign slogan is “Make America Great Again.” His unofficial motto should be: “We have no choice” – a claim he uses to punctuate calls for various abridgments of liberty, such as the creation of a military “deportation force”; expanded surveillance of mosques, and –where he deems necessary – the forcible closure of those deemed to be objectionablewatchlists, databases, and special identification protocols targeting Muslims; and the restoration of torture as an interrogation method
“We have to be strong,” Trump grunted during a November 22 interview when asked about waterboarding by the precious little fellow named George Stephanopolous. “You know, they don’t use waterboarding over there, they use chopping off people’s heads, they use drowning people. I would bring it back. I think waterboarding is peanuts compared to what they do.”
In theory, a U.S. president is restrained by the limits on power supposedly contained within the U.S. Constitution. Trump has never provided any evidence that he has read the document, let alone that he understands its provisions and takes them seriously. In fact, the only element of the Constitution for which he has expressed unqualified approval is the “takings clause” of the Fifth Amendment, which authorizes the government to seize property through “eminent domain” – a process through which Trump, the crony capitalist par excellence, has enriched himself considerably. 
On the available evidence, Trump’s view of presidential powers doesn’t differ in substance from that of Barack Obama, whom he has consistently criticized for being “weak” and timid in the exercise of those powers. 
Trump’s Republican “fans” consist, for the most part, of people who see Obama as a dictator – but who devoutly wish for Trump to inherit the distended powers of the office Obama now occupies, and exercise them more assertively. They aren’t interested in a leader who would apply sound principles in defense of individual liberty and private property; they lust and ache to be ruled by someone they consider a suitable symbol of American “greatness.”
In his relentlessly self-preoccupied and borderline-aphasic speeches and media appearances, Trump displays a rhetorical style not terribly different from that of a skilled professional wrestler “working the mic.” He dilates upon his accomplishments, most of which are dubious at best, boasts of his standing in the polls, commends his “fans” for the wisdom they display in supporting him, and spends a great deal of time discussing obscure and petty personal affronts. He will engage in pure, malicious invention, as in his bizarre and completely dishonest claim to have witnessed “thousands and thousands of people cheering” – Muslims, to be sure – on 9/11 as the World Trade Center collapsed.

One thing Trump has never done, and most likely will never do, is describe how he would reduce the power, size, cost, and invasiveness of government. Rather than curtailing the ever-metastasizing police state, he would appoint "the best people" to supervise it. His self-described mission, we must never forget, is to restore the government’s “greatness,” not to bring about individual liberty. He seems to believe that this would apparently be done through the simple act of electing him president – and a remarkable number of Republicans agree. Trump offers them nothing but an opportunity for the vicarious exercise of power -- and for such people this is enough.
In “The Revolt of the Masses,” which was published in 1930 – a  time when Mussolini was still in favor with the bien-pensants -- Jose Ortega y Gassett observedthat through Fascism “there appears for the first time in Europe a type of man who does not want to give reasons or to be right, but simply shows himself resolved to impose his opinions.” That human "type" isn't limited to one end of the statist political spectrum: It is plentifully represented among supporters of Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton, as well as Donald Trump.
Mass movements of that kind aren’t organized around principles or ideals, but rather propelled by what Ortega y Gassett called “appetites in words,” particularly the basest appetite, which is a desire for power over others. As a professional wrestling performer, Donald Trump offered his “fans” a relatively harmless way to indulge that appetite vicariously. The same cannot be said of his cynical heel turn as a presidential candidate.
This week's Freedom Zealot Podcast examines Trump's "We Have No Choice" agenda, and some possible approaches to dealing with the Syrian refugee crisis:  

Dum spiro, pugno!

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11/13/15 Paris Attacks- 2 Separate Operations in One Event

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Sat, 11/21/2015 - 16:30
 Gallier2 left the link for this blog, I have put it through translate and posted it below: Merci Gallier!Briefly: the French author hypothesizes that the Paris attacks were two operations running concurrently. The author notes the ineptitude of the 'suicide bombers' who managed to harm themselves- Something I noted myself as extremely odd, figuring these patsies were not in control of their explosive devices. The author from France seems to draw the same conclusion. As you can read in my response to Gallier. I had some issues with the concert hall also believing that the shooters and their weapons had to have been in place.  However the killings at Bataclan appear to have been done by a professional hit team- Something I did not take away from the reports in the anglo media.
  1. gallier2November 19, 2015 at 12:06 PMHi Penny,

    here a link to a interesting story (sorry in french, but there's a little bit of english at the end)
    This is for the moment the most interesting hypothesis I have read yet. There were a lot of contradictory stuff out there that didn't fit the narratives, neither the official one (as always) but also the "conspiratory" one. Contrary to what is probably reported in the anglo media, there is a backlash against the gouvernement which I didn't expect. Valls (prime minister) has been attacked by high ups in the intelligence service, accusing him of criminal negligence (because he rejected Assad's offer 2 years ago to give the list of "french" daeshians). While, the rest of the state continues to exploit the chaos to get their agenda through, this doesn't fit with a well executed false flag. The military response also doesn't quite fit, as does the cooperation Russia now. So the idea of that blog post is, that French spooks worked with daesh to make a not too bloody attack, but were crossed by them in the Bataclan massacre. The evidence he gives is the extremely lame suicide bombers patsies in the Stade de France and the Rue Voltaire, who were just capable of blowing themselves up (only one civilian died in the sport arena by accident). So we have to look at the event as 2 separate events: the lame false flag involving daesh patsies and french inteligence and the Bataclan massacre that was a real Daesh (i.e. USrael) operation. I know it sounds a little bit complicated, but it's the only explanation I've stumbled upon that's fits the evidence so far.

PennyNovember 20, 2015 at 6:39 AM
Hi Gallier!
Thanks I'm going to check that out- Its interesting you mentioned the patsies that couldn't do anything but kill themselves, I mentioned them specifically because I found that interesting, curious and anomalous with the intent to cause terror, death and mayhem.

I suspected they weren't in control of their explosive devices

The other aspect that was interesting was the concert hall- Considering the usual security at concerts- you can't bring a water bottle or anything at all into concert venues- the guns had to have come in with the band or entourage- that seems possible to have been a separate operation
Look forward to reading it, merci, as always gallier! Via Translate- A very interesting read.Here is proof that the attacks in Paris are a false-flag As we said in "Paris. Attacks false-flag?" it is confirmed more and more, as the attacks of 9/11 and others, horrific attack and it turns out to be false-flag. Indeed, the wave of attacks that befell Paris poses some questions. Here we will list the facts that make us say that the official account of the attacks of Paris does not hold water. It is common to call "complotiste" articles which disturb and are reproduced by websites all persuasions, including authentic extremists. We did nothing, we are only facing the facts. Let the reader make his own idea but frankly, you really be in bad faith not to see the deception of those attacks ... Overview of the most damning facts Already for starters, a simple thing no media dared face, still remember that the French state handed borders the day of the attacks and deploying thirty thousand policemen which were mobilized for this operation to control Borders to last a month as part of the Paris Climate Conference (COP21). How odd ... After the attacks on the same day, the prolonged closure of borders lies with the State of Emergency declared ...
The same day of the attacks, Friday, November 13, 2015, always the same, no you're not dreaming, is presented on the morning the new "Plan Weapons" of the government to strengthen gun control and identities at borders on national territory and European. Bernard Cazeneuve, Minister of Interior, will hold a speech to present this new "weapons Plan" in Nanterre on the morning of Friday, November 13, 2015, hours before the attacks. These new measures were criticized because considered too fascistic, but with the attacks the same day, hop, they will soon be passed as a letter in the mail. How odd ... (source : )
One day before the attacks, 12 November, the National Observatory of delinquency and criminal responses -rattaché the Ministry of Interior (again like Cazeneuve ...) published a report that terrorism had become the second concern of the French after unemployment ... (source: "The great fear of terrorism," Timothy Boutry, Le Parisien-Aujourd'hui en France, 13 November 2015.)
Finally, an exercise simulating attacks was conducted on the morning of the attack by hospital emergency departments under the control of the Ministries of Interior (again like Cazeneuve ...) and Defense. A coincidence we had already noted during the attacks of September 11, 2001 in New York and Washington, those of 11 March 2004 in Madrid, or those of 7 July 2005 in London (source:. Cf. Intervention of Dr. Patrice Pelloux, President of the Association of Emergency Physicians of France on France Info at 10h26 and the evening news on France2, November 14, 2015. "How Samu was prepared for simultaneous attacks in Paris," Kira Mitrofanoff, Challenges, 15 November 2015.)
If the Bataclan Unlike lamplighters who acted in Parisian neighborhoods and near Stade de France, the Bataclan are terrorists, according to witnesses, professionals. We have here blanks (ie they look like neither Arabs nor the Maghreb), ultra-pros, dressed in black from head to toe, AK-47 in hand, super well trained and kill with precision, as was described witnesses. Some arrived in black Mercedes, they quietly leave in the same car, once the p erpétré slaughter without being worried in the least. Oddly, NOBODY speaks in the media or among French officials.

So when we already made ​​a first scan the events, that is to say just a small overall analysis, we realize how the official account of the attacks shattered, yielding under the push and logical facts . The facts are overwhelming, and all this shows that the attacks in Paris have been planned by senior services of the French State.

But there are even stronger, we will now discuss the person Brahim Abdeslam.

If Brahim Abdeslam

Abdeslam Brahim, 31, kamikaze commandos involved in the attacks of Friday, November 13, 2015, was the owner of The Coffee Béguines located in a quiet side street Karreveld district of Molenbeek in Belgium. This bar was also a coffee shop office. The municipal authorities have ordered the November 2 "closure to the public of the establishment", for a "period of 5 months starting November 5, 2015 and ending April 4, 2016".
(Source: the Parisien )
Brahim Abdeslam blew himself alone at 9:41 p.m. at the terrace bistro Counter Voltaire, at 253 Boulevard Voltaire, close to Place de la Nation on Friday night, seriously injuring a dozen people. According to the head of the coffee story in L'Express, the terrorist moved quietly into the cafe. That's when he placed the order it blew themselves up. The waitress, Catherine, was wounded in the abdomen and chest. Hospitalized, his life would not be in danger, according to his colleagues, in shock.
He had rented a black Seat car, registered in Belgium, and found in Montreuil, near Paris, in the aftermath of the attacks. On board, three Kalashnikov assault rifles, eleven empty magazines and five full ...
Coincidentally, the authorities ordered the closure of his bar a few days before the attacks in Paris, what did we promised him in return? Money likely, it was not his goal to explode ...
Furthermore, Brahim Abdeslam drank alcohol and smoked marijuana excessively, it was a common criminal, he did not have the profile of a religious fanatic ready to die a martyr. Continuing, he moved quietly on the terrace of a cafe and blew, without shouting "Allah akbar", isolated from other people except the waitress ... And do not kill anyone ... Even the waitress that is unless a meter of it! ! This incredible explosive belt ... It is not very logical, a real kamikaze:
  • do not sit at a cafe to order,
  • secondly, he claims his act,
  • thirdly, it does not leave a car full of belongings, weapons and ammunition ready to serve.
  • And fourth, had he been a real explosive belt there would have been dead because the explosion was much more powerful.
But the explosion was very powerful indeed. The proof: the waitress next to him is not even dead, but only wounded and they want us to believe that he returned to explode with an explosive belt. Frankly, it does not hold water. If he had a real explosive belt, there would have been a heap of corpses, and the waitress, to within a meter of him, would have been shattered!
He never wanted to blow himself up, he had to wait and go get the other car after shooting. The secret services have triggered remotely micro-explosives they have hidden in his jacket or in the belt of his pants , powerful enough to kill him and injure people around less serious. All this in order to believe in a suicide bombing. Not only there is no death except those who work for the secret services and which must be disposed, as in the case Merah, but it passes for a suicide attack and still causes a terrible fear. One Stone is made ​​two strokes. It is born a terrorist fear death by zero, who benefits from the crime? Nobody caught the inconsistency of this act for the dead Bataclan blinding everyone.

ADVERTISEMENT The mystery of the three suicide bombers from the Stade de France Why blew themselves up at these places? Everyone wonders. Nobody understand. Investigators and experts are trying to find out why, when they could cause a deadly carnage and panic, the three suicide bombers from the Stade de France blew themselves up Friday, November 13 in isolated places, killing only one person, let . probably by accident, where they could have done many more victims recall here the chronology of events: At 9:20 p.m. the door D, the first jihadist activates the detonator of his explosive belt full of TATP (improvised explosive) and bolts. A passing close to him, is killed. 21.30. New detonation. Only victim: the jihadist whose body cut in half lying on the asphalt. The showcase of the neighboring restaurant is split sentence. 22h. In a nearby street, a final explosion kills only the carrier of the explosive belt in the entrance to a dead end, as if it was isolated before pressing the mortal button. At the end of the meeting. If they had waited until the final whistle, when thousands of people flock to the metro, they have again done terrible damage, especially since Paris had already been under the influence of attacks against restaurants and the Bataclan. "It is incomprehensible," said Sunday to AFP, under condition of anonymity, a police source. "It is miraculous that there were so few victims. Concretely, what they did, except suicide, it makes no sense. " "This is not the right time: if you want carnage, you do that at the time of entry or exit of spectators, adds the same officer As much what happened in central Paris. makes sense, as there are just guys who have committed suicide. " Wikistrike will now solve the riddle live. The key to understanding resided in the case Brahim Abdselam that nobody saw ... except us. And we just clarify a few lines above. The first jihadist himself is surprised to explode, so there will be a death ... For it is not he who triggers the timer, second, secret services do not prevent, so they could not know at the same time they were operating the timer, the jihadist brushed a person. Therefore after 10 minutes, to avoid another accidental death, they manage to isolate the other jihadist guiding him, talking to him, which like the other two had to wear a headset. And 30 minutes after they had to find a vice, say anything, a tall tale, third, that it isolates itself in a deadlock, only for them to do jumping in turn no casualties. The Secret Service wanted to blow without causing victims, which is why nobody understands their actions. If terrorists were suicide bombers true, they would have caused many deaths. Because they would have been blown up at the right time and with more explosives. This proves with certainty that they were manipulated by the secret services, is already the fact that they have isolated exploded without hurting anyone, and secondly, their explosive belts were of very low quality. In addition, when a suicide bomber wants to do something big, it never uses a belt but a vest of explosives, much more powerful. In Iraq, suicide bombers daéchiens do, every time, tens of maorts, hundreds injured, and huge material damage. The smoking gun is the second jihadist, whose body has not even exploded, but has only found cut in two. The window next to him is found cracked, not even broken. Proof that everything was calculated to the least possible casualties. It is an absolute false flag. This is proof that the French state is well behind: wanting to create terror with the least possible victims to get the much desired change in constitution. It's so big that it's hard to believe that nobody has guessed the deception. Yet it is amazingly simple. * 3 apprentices mindless suicide bombers equipped with explosive belts means made ​​to kill one or two pigeons, * 3 morons with headsets where they receive their order, * 3 idiots equipped with GPS embedded in their belt of explosives that walks and that queue, these are our three puppets with which the French secret services have played video games. The International Jihad became the PlayStation French secret service. If Salah Abdeslam Suspected of being one of the eight perpetrators of Paris Friday Salah Abdeslam, brother of Brahim Abdeslam, the would-be suicide bomber Boulevard Voltaire, for some reason, decline or failure, Salah Abdeslam did not trigger explosive belt in contrast to his brother and the six suicide bombers who "acted" at the Stade de France and the Bataclan. Investigators believe that Salah and his brother Brahim could form the team that fired Kalashnikovs on terraces and restaurants, are sowing death and moving in Seat. Salah Abdeslam was exfiltrated in Belgium by his two friends Attou Hamza and Mohammed Amri. They made ​​the journey by car-Molenbeek Molenbeek-Paris - more than 600 km and 6 hours away - the night of Friday to Saturday morning. Investigators found ammonium nitrate to the homes of the two accomplices and ammunition of caliber 5.56 and 7.62, suitable for Kalashnikov rifles. Ammonium nitrate is a component used for the manufacture of fertilizers, but is highly dangerous. It is this chemical, which had led to the accidental explosion of the AZF factory in Toulouse in 2001, causing 31 deaths. The sponsor of the attacks is the childhood friend of Salah Abdeslam, the famous Abdelhamid Abaaout, whose Kounia (war name) Abu Omar. This works for EMNI, it is the internal security of the Islamic State (Daech). The EMNI is also responsible for sending spies and suicide bombers in Europe. Each key spy EMNI by € 50,000 for an attack in Europe. And much more if he is willing to blow themselves (in this case it is the family of the "martyr" who gets the money). This is Abu Omar in person that manages records. Thus, we must understand that Salah Abdeslam is protected by the highest authorities of Daech. But he and his brother Brahim who organized the attacks in Paris were not to die, but accompany and manage the "martyrs". They got overtaken by the French secret service lest they speak. For he is aware of the secret agreements between France and Daech (see conclusion). Brahim it worked, but Salah him, feeling dirty trick, changed clothes, got rid of the GPS device and the explosive belt. And then fled to Belgium to join later Syria. Conclusion All these facts show unequivocally that the French state has everything coordinated with the secret services, handling of Islamists like puppets, and this to change the constitution to impose a Patriot Act and the French, like the Americans after the attacks the World Trade Center, also known as false flag, using Al Qaeda as cover. Other times, other tools: the French secret services have used Daech and its agents, as they always have done from the beginning to try to topple Bashar al Assad and dismember Syria. Do not forget that Daech is an artificial creation. It is only the instrument of the policy of several states and multinationals. In Syria, the presence of French officers flanking extremist armed groups when perpetrating crimes against humanity is widely attested. Indeed, France has not always bombarded Daech but dropped him weapons for over a year. This is ignored by the Western press, but was widely discussed during a year by the Arab and Persian press. The truth came to light when CentCom fifty analysts have denounced the lies of reports on the Coalition, that an internal investigation has been initiated and that, ultimately, General John Allen was forced to resign. See especially: "Stewart, Brennan and Cardillo denounce the manipulation of Intelligence at the Pentagon" and "General Allen resigns (Bloomberg)", Voltaire Network, 12 and 23 September 2015.
David J. Feldmann for Wikistrike Comment

When ow intelligence "cooperate", everyone keeps in hands of "cards" it does not show to another. When the French secret service and daéchiens (Emni) rose this joint opera tion, it is clear that the Emni sacrificed secondary agents, as they say lamplighter s da ns the barbouzard jargon, beings rather lanterns (the "kamikaze "useless) to focus on the Bataclan. EMNI has managed to trap their French counterparts while committing mass murder. Cheated and ridiculed, the French authorities are now turning to the Russians in revenge for Daech. The Yanks are marrent, shedding crocodile tears.

Here are some reminders.

Who provided weapons and financed the Islamic state or terrorist organizations in Syria and Iraq and who gave it birth?
In 2012 - Holland admits that Syrian rebels weapons in violation of the embargo.
The French president admitted having delivered weapons to Syrian rebels during the embargo of the EU, according to a book that will be released soon in France. The deliveries took place in 2012, before it ended the embargo in May 2013, admitted Francois Hollande during his last interview of the year with the journalist and writer Xavier Panon. "We started to deliver when we were sure they would end up in the right hands. For lethal weapons is our services that have delivered the "Holland said to the writer, ...
October 2012 - In Syria, it seems that it is the jihadists who enjoy the weapons delivered to rebels
WASHINGTON - Most of the weapons dispatched at the request of Saudi Arabia and Qatar to Syrian rebel groups fighting the government of Bashar al-Assad end up in the hands of radical Islamic jihadists, and not in those of groups opposition, more secular, that the West wants to strengthen, according to US officials and diplomats in the Middle East.
December 2012 - France is financing the Syrian rebels in an effort to oust Assad new
France became the largest funder of the Syrian armed opposition and now directly finance rebel groups around Aleppo, as part of a renewed effort to overthrow Assad's embattled regime. Large sums of cash were transferred by agents of the French government via the Turkish border to the rebel commanders last month, according to diplomatic sources. The money was used to buy weapons inside Syria and to finance armed operations against loyalist forces.
August 2014 - Hollande confirmed that France has delivered arms to Syrian rebels
President François Hollande said Thursday that France had delivered arms to the rebels fighting against the Syrian regime of Bashar al-Assad, "a few months ago. "
November 2015
Murad GazdievMuradoRT - The French rocket launcher apilas provided to Syrian #rebelles falls into the hands of #ISIS.
Photo #Deraa, #sud Syria 12:09 - November 6, 2015

June 2014 - "Thank God for the Saudis' ISIS, Iraq and backlash
The two factions that have the best results against Assad's forces are two Islamist extremist groups: al-Jabhat No. SRA and Islamic state in Iraq and Syria (ISIS), the latter is gaining ground in Iraq and threatens to destabilize more the whole region. And this success is partly due to the support that both groups received two Gulf countries: Qatar and Saudi Arabia. Jabhat al-No. SRA has so benefited from military and economic largess of Qatar a major Qatari official said he could recognize al-SRA No. commanders to blocks they control in various Syrian cities . But Isis, is something else. As a leading Qatari manager stated, "ISIS is from the beginning a Saudi project." France has benefited from support to the project étasuno-Wahhabi regime change in Syria and Iraq.
April 2015 - France and Qatar seal an agreement in the amount of $ 7 billion for Rafales.

Qatar has agreed to buy 24 fighter jets built by Dassault Rafales for 6.3 billion euros (4.55 billion pounds), announced on Thursday the French government. This Arab Gulf state seeks in effect to increase its military power in a region increasingly unstable.
June 2015 - Saudi Arabia and France enter into a market of $ 12 billion.
Saudi Arabia and France signed on Wednesday a trade agreement of $ 12 billion, said the Saudi Minister of Foreign Affairs, Adel al-Jubair, during the historic visit of Salman bin Mohammed vice heir prince to Paris . Even after he became is clear for everyone that the proposed regime change in Syria favored the spread of terrorism, Holland continued to demand the end of the Syrian state.
September 2015 - Francois Hollande said that Assad must go
The President of France Francois Hollande told the UN General Assembly on Monday that his country would "assume its responsibilities" in the global effort to end fighting in Syria, but the conflict could be resolved if President Bashar al-Assad was removed from power.
Holland he will now change the discourse?
  • After the attacks of Paris Stock Exchange flies to New York and Paris  Point of view of a US analyst

    Foreign intel services Could Be Behind Paris attacks: Analyst Sun November 15, 2015

    The Paris Could Be attacks the work of foreign intelligence services in order to "Facilitate a NATO strike contre Syria," says a US Army psychological training officer. On Saturday, Daesh (ISIL) Claimed responsibility for a series of attacks in Paris Coordinated That killed at least 129 people and Injured Some 352 on Friday night.
    The terror organization called Expired the attacks "the first of the storm" and denounced France as a "capital of prostitution and obscenity."
    In an interview with Press TV, Scott Bennett pointed to two scenarios, arguing que la attacks Could Be Either the carried out by terrorists or ISIL "a foreign entity."
    They Could Be "a sort of Zionist Mossad, MI6, CIA operation, gold-have-been trained fighters That financement and trained by the United States and Saudi Arabia and others," he Explained.

    Bennett said "it's very possible, That this (attacks Paris) Was a fabricated assault."

      If That is the case, Bennett Said, "Then we see a larger pattern, a larger trigger of war qui Resembles the Gulf of Tonkin (Vietnam War) and the 9/11 attacks. We're seeing all of this language repeated in the past; we're seeing the world coming behind the United States partner after the false-flag attacks of 9/11, and we now see the world coming behind France. "" So this May-have-been designed to be a false-flag attack in order to shift momentum from the war-footing, ship NATO and the United States, France and the United Kingdom into an offensive position and help get em a moral high ground That They Can now use to exploit a gold buffer no-fly zone in Syria, They can use this for new sanctions and request for investigations in Iran and They Can use this to destabilize Russia, "he added. "The significant thing is for Russia, Iran and China to be ahead of That in order to not be blamed for Any cette connection Because It's very possible, That if This was a fabricated assault, Then it very Easily Could Be Claimed on people Who are connected with [Syrian President Bashar al-] Assad, or connected with Iran or Even with Russia, "he Concluded.
    Observers say while the US and Its Allies claim They Are contre fighting terrorist groups like ISIL, They in fact create Helped Train Those organisms and to advance Their policies in the Middle East. Hannibal Genséric

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US acknowledges Civilian Deaths in Iraq

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Sat, 11/21/2015 - 16:09
This is such an unusual admission! So much so that BBC acknowledges that curiosity TWICE in this linked article:US air strike on IS in Iraq 'killed civilians'

Before reading below I have to ask  you is the US admitting to the killing of civilians to justify boots on the ground? That's the first thought that comes to mind, but, I am sure there has to be more??- Still playing up the airstrikes can be used to sell the need for boots, spinning, it as more humane. Though it won't be.

A US air strike aimed at an IS checkpoint is likely to have killed four civilians, possibly including a child, the US military has said.On Friday the military released the findings of an investigation into the incident, which took place in March.
Investigators concluded the checkpoint was a valid target and the attack did not violate international laws. The US has rarely acknowledged civilian deaths in the fight against IS and the announcement brings the total to six. "All reasonable measures were taken to avoid unintended deaths of, or injuries to, non-combatants," US Central Command spokesman Patrick Ryder said.
Col Ryder told reporters that the four civilians emerged from vehicles parked near the checkpoint, near the northern town of al-Hatra, after the A-10 jet released its weapons.
He said the plane's crew was not aware of their presence at the time the strikes were authorised.

An unknown woman notified the US military of the incident and claimed two women and three children were killed.
The military said it could not determine the age and gender of the victims without further forensic investigation or other information that was not available to the coalition.
It acknowledged the analysis indicated one of the people was much smaller than the rest and may have been a child.
A US Central Command statement expressed regret for what it called the unintentional loss of civilian lives. The US has rarely acknowledged civilian casualties linked to US air strikes in Iraq and Syria. In May, it concluded two children had been killed in a November 2014 air strike in Syria. It is investigating several other reports of civilian deaths.
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About Dave McGowan? News and an interview.

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Fri, 11/20/2015 - 12:42
I know many readers here follow Dave's work. And I'm torn about doing this kind of an update.
Meria Heller has been keeping  all her listeners informed.
The latest news, sad to write it here too, is that Dave McGowan has slipped into a coma.
I'm going to leave it at that.

Below you will find a link to the last interview, to my knowledge, Dave had done.

Dave McGowan & Vyzygoth "Nothing but the Truth"
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President Assad Makes Unannounced Visit to Battlefield

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Fri, 11/20/2015 - 10:24


Exclusive VIDEO: Syria President Assad Unannounced Visit of the Battlefields

n an unannounced visit of the front line, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad caused surprise and boost of morale among Syrian soldiers in their fight against ISIS and Al-Nusra terrorists, Al-Alam News Network reports. According to Al-Alam News Network in an exclusive footage, the Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad is seen in the front line of the Battlefield among Syrian Army troops, shaking hands with the Syrian soldiers and exchanges congratulations with them.- See more at: an unannounced visit of the front line, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad caused surprise and boost of morale among Syrian soldiers in their fight against ISIS and Al-Nusra terrorists, Al-Alam News Network reports. According to Al-Alam News Network in an exclusive footage, the Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad is seen in the front line of the Battlefield among Syrian Army troops, shaking hands with the Syrian soldiers and exchanges congratulations with them.- See more at:
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Obama (Me) speaks for Trudeau-bama (Mini-Me) & all of Canada

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Thu, 11/19/2015 - 09:38
Obama speaks for Canada, says both countries will soon sign the Trans-Pacific Partnership agreement.Gee and here I thought we elected our own leader? FacetiousObama checks for string placementCanada will soon sign onto the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade agreement, U.S. President Barack Obama said, going further than the country’s new prime minister has committed.Obama and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau spoke Thursday in Manila after their first bilateral meeting on the sidelines of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit. In his remarks, Obama seemed to cast the Pacific trade agreement as a done deal, while Trudeau has declined to take a position other than to say it will be reviewed in parliament.
“We are both soon to be signatories of the TPP agreement,” Obama said. “That’s another area we can continue to have important discussions,” he said. Trudeau-bama is being coy. After all it is the 'honeymoon phase' here in Canada
Obama doesn't care.
 Speaking later Thursday at a media briefing, Trudeau repeated that Canada has not yet decided whether to sign the pact and it must first be reviewed in parliament.
“Canada is resolutely pro trade, we understand how important trade is for economic growth,” he said. “That is the lens through which we will examine the TPP.” “One of the commitments that I made was indeed we were going to have a proper consultative process during the ratification process that included parliamentarians, and I am of course committed to that.”Trudeau-bama's liberals have a majority- He will simply dictate the policy to the 'parliamentarians' and they will vote in lock step with the edicts of the puppet leader. It means nothing for him to say he is committed to some imaginary democratic process- Lip service is all that talk is.
The TPP has a long road generally to be enacted as it requires legislative approval by all member nations. The pact — which covers about 40 percent of the global economy — goes beyond normal trade deals to include issues like intellectual property and state-owned enterprises. It does not currently include China.
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Russian Plane Crash in Sinai: Terrorism- Updated!

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Tue, 11/17/2015 - 08:57

We can say that that [Sinai plane crash] was a terror act,” Bortnikov told Putin. According to the FSB chief, experts analyzed passengers’ belongings as well as the parts of the plane. “After the examination on all these objects, we have found traces of a foreign-made explosive substance,” Bortnikov said.

“During the flight, a homemade device with the power of 1.5 kilograms of TNT was detonated. As a result, the plane fell apart in the air, which can be explained by the huge scattering of the fuselage parts of the plane,” he added.

This not the first time that Russia has faced “barbarous terrorist crimes, more often without apparent causes, outside or domestic, as it was with the explosion at the railway station in Volgograd at the end of 2013,” He added: “We haven’t forgotten anything or anyone. The murder of our nationals in Sinai is among the bloodiest crimes in [terms of] the number of casualties.”

But Russia won’t be “wiping tears from our soul and heart,” he said. “This [tragedy] will stay with us forever. But this won’t stop us from finding and punishing the culprit.”

Vladimir Putin has vowed to find and punish the culprits behind the Sinai plane attack.“Our military work in Syria must not only continue. It must be strengthened in such a way so that the terrorists will understand that retribution is inevitable,” he said.

The Federal Security Service director also announced a reward of $50 million for information on those behind the terror attack on the A321.

The Russian president asked the Foreign Ministry to “call on all our [foreign] partners” to assist in the search for the terrorists behind the attack. “We look forward in the course of this work to [help from] all our friends, including in finding and punishing the criminals," he added.

Russia will act in accordance with Article 51 of the UN Charter, which provides for countries’ right to self-defense, Putin said. “Those who attempt to assist criminals should be aware that the consequences of such attempts will be entirely their responsibility,” he added.The Kogalymavia A321 air crash took place over the Sinai Peninsula in Egypt on October 31. All 224 people on board the plane were killed, making it the deadliest air accident in modern Russian aviation history.

Let's have some context! 
ISIS financed from 40 countries, including G20 members President Vladimir Putin says he’s shared Russian intelligence data on Islamic State financing with his G20 colleagues: the terrorists appear to be financed from 40 countries, including some G20 member states. During the summit, I provided examples based on our data on the financing of different Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) units by private individuals. This money, as we have established, comes from 40 countries and, there are some of the G20 members among them,” Putin told the journalists.

Putin also spoke of the urgent need to curb the illegal oil trade by IS.

"I’ve shown our colleagues photos taken from space and from aircraft which clearly demonstrate the scale of the illegal trade in oil and petroleum products," he said.

The motorcade of refueling vehicles stretched for dozens of kilometers, so that from a height of 4,000 to 5,000 meters they stretch beyond the horizon," Putin added, comparing the convoy to gas and oil pipeline systems.

It’s not the right time to try and figure out which country is more and which is less effective in the battle with Islamic State, as now a united international effort is needed against the terrorist group, Putin said.

It’s really difficult to criticize us,” he said, adding that Russia has repeatedly asked its foreign partners to provide data on terrorist targets in Syria.

They’re afraid to inform us on the territories which we shouldn’t strike, fearing that it is precisely where we’ll strike; that we are going to cheat everybody,” the president said.

Apparently, their opinion of us is based on their own concept of human decency,” he added.
Putin told the media that Russia has already established contact with the Syrian opposition, which has asked Moscow not carry out airstrikes in the territories it controls.

Sputnik ISIS financed by 40 countries including G-20 nations.
 How many of these 40 nations are NATO nations? Partnered or occupied by NATO?

It is not a coincidence that Russia showed the G-20 members, information on just which of them were financing ISIS- and then afterwards acknowledges the plane crash was terrorism. 
I am of the opinion Russian officials knew with enough certainty, rather quickly,  it was a bomb.


Breaking News-   Russia doubling number of airstrikes in Syria- 25 Long Range bombers from Russian Territory
 Russia has deployed its fleet of strategic bombers to double the number of airstrikes on Islamist targets in Syria, Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu has announced. Twenty-five long-range bombers flying from Russian airfields will also be deployed.
 Russia fires missiles from Mediterranean on targets in ISIS stronghold Raqqa - reports
The Russian military has launched airstrikes against the Islamic State stronghold of Raqqa in Syria with cruise missiles from their ships in the Mediterranean Sea, France’s Le Monde newspaper said, citing a French official. The information that Russia has struck Islamic State positions in Raqqa has been also reported by a senior French government source, cited by Reuters.
 Russia gave notice to Washington ahead of the airstrikes, in accordance with an agreement on air safety, US official said.  This is the second time Russia has hit Islamic State positions in Syria from the sea. The first attack was in October this year when Russian warships fired cruise missiles from the Caspian Sea to hit several Islamic State positions in Syria.Don't Miss:
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Saudi Arabia’s Syrian Adventures May Soon Be Over

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:49
November 13th/2015- Interesting?: Saudi Arabia's Syrian Adventure May Soon Be Over
If you didn't read the post from November 12th- Saudi Russo Rapproachment- Back on Track: F William Engdahl  Consider it background or a lovely follow up.

Reports of Saudi king’s possible visit to Russia indicate that Saudi Arabia’s adventurism in Syria is coming to a close.According to the Russian presidential press secretary, Dmitry Peskov, the visit of Saudi King Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud to Russia is being worked out and agreed through diplomatic channels.

This shows Riyadh is ready to reach a ‘compromised solution’ on the Syrian crisis – a solution that may not be what the US seems to be attempting to achieve through its renewed engagement in Syria and Iraq and its (possible) policy of balkanization of Syria into different “safe zones.” As is evident, the kingdom’s engagement in Syria and Yemen has rather grown overstretched. Military fatigue in Yemen and resource fatigue in Syria seem to be getting the better of its establishment that no longer seems ‘energetic’ enough to keep itself embroiled in the conflict, especially when no ‘rational’ and balanced solution, as far as the Saudi position is concerned, is available in the hindsight.While a clear ‘victory’ in Syria does not seem to be possible under the given circumstances, Saudi Arabia’s own rapidly weakening economic position seems to be playing the central role in determining broader contours of its foreign policy. As it stands, the House of Saud appears to be making serious efforts to take its relations with Putin’s Russia to an entirely new level. As far as Saudi Arabia’s economic position is concerned, consider these facts:  the treasury of the regional leader is certainly at risk of running dry, and the “kingdom of the welfare state” can expect bankruptcy, according to IMF. Up to now, the financial holes – the budget deficit this year is projected to be 21.6% of GDP – have been covered by the earlier petrodollar savings. However, this summer, the Saudi Arabian Monetary Agency was forced to withdraw $70 billion from foreign investment funds assets. It can be assumed this is only the beginning of the return of capital to their homeland to tide over the emerging new outgoings. Saudi Arabia’s chief regional allies, too, seem to be falling out of their erstwhile, and so-called, position of ‘strength.’ Already, the cumulative budget deficit of Middle Eastern oil-exporting countries in the next five years could reach $1 trillion.
Hence, Saudia’s “friendly” gestures towards Russia. It is remarkable to note how Saudi position is changing vis-à-vis the Russian campaign in Syria. When Russia launched its air-strikes in Syria, Saudi Arabia was one of the first countries to denounce these strikes as “reactionary” and potentially “counter-productive.”
However, recent developments such as King Salman’s up-coming visit to Moscow indicate that Saudi Arabia has started to come round to the ‘Russian way’ of resolving the Syrian crisis. In this context, the statement by Prince Turki al-Faisal, Saudi Arabia’s former ambassador to the US and former intelligence chief, is significant.
He openly expressed his ‘confidence’ that Russia’s strategy on Syria is more effective than that of the US, and that the Russian point of view demands “attention and respect.”
While Russian view with regard to Syria or Assad’s position as its legitimate ruler has not changed since the beginning of the conflict in 2011, Saudi Arabia’s position has undergone significant change. Recently, Riyadh issued a ‘secret document’ to its embassies in the Middle East instructing them to stop ‘funding’ the so-called Syrian ‘rebels’. This indicates that the House of Saud is ‘no longer’ in a position to achieve its basic objective of overthrowing Assad’s regime. This trend, if it continues to develop, is a major positive step towards peace in the region.
Saudi money had been financing numerous terrorist groups in their desperate effort to topple the Assad regime during the monarchy of King Abdullah and Prince Bandar, his intelligence chief responsible for the war against Assad. Bandar was fired soon after Salman took over, signaling a possible but slight change in Saudi Arabia’s foreign policy. This change was officially stamped when Saudi Arabia’s defence minister visited Russia in mid-2015. This ‘constructive engagement’ seems to have strong economic underpinnings as the Saudis seem to be very interested in participating and opening for themselves, as also for their regional allies, doors to the greatest global infrastructure in history — China’s One Belt, One Road port and rail Eurasian infrastructure development where Russia and the Eurasian Economic Union states are being fully integrated in an ‘economic union.’ For Riyadh, such a development, if it eventually occurs, would be a far more positive development than funding thousands of terrorists who will certainly come to threaten Saudi Arabia and its allies if not totally defeated in Syria and Iraq. The Saudis certainly seem to have developed a sort of ‘self-realization’ of the way they have been unable to place themselves as a Mid-Eastern hegemon.
The policy shift certainly also indicates that the Saudis are far more interested in buttressing their economy through an “alliance for oil” with Russia. A strong indication of this “alliance for oil” came just three days after Prince Salman’s Sochi talks with Putin. Alexander Novak, Russian Energy Minister, announced that Russia is planning to meet with Saudi Arabian counterparts, as well as Iranian, in November, to discuss the current oil market. While Saudi Arabia does stand to gain a lot economically through an alliance with Russia, Moscow does have much to harness out this renewed engagement with the House of Saud. As a matter of fact, a deal with Saudi Arabia could produce incremental oil revenue of around $180 billion a year for Moscow. On the other hand, forced by its economy, Saudi Arabia is seeking higher energy prices for consumers within the country, as reported by the Oil Minister Ali Al-Naimi. Responding to a question whether the kingdom is going to reduce energy subsidies in the near future, the Saudi official said: “Your question concerns whether we are considering such a possibility? Yes, we are considering it.” It has certainly become important for the House of Saud to shuffle domestic oil price because the kingdom is losing out on potential revenue by selling oil on the domestic market at a much cheaper rate than on the foreign market. Currently, Saudi Arabia spends about $86 billion a year in subsidies for oil producers. It is obvious that to revamp its economy, Saudia needs higher price in global market too — something it cannot politically afford to do without taking Russia and Iran on board under the given circumstances. Were it to repeat its policy of causing them ‘damage’, the Saudis would unwittingly fall a prey to the trap they were to set for them. The Saudia, as it appears, seem to have learnt something out of the chaos they have caused over the years in the Middle East.
An ‘alliance for oil’ might just do the opposite. A deal on oil price, to be eventually pushed towards $100 or more a barrel, does make political and economic sense for both Russia and Saudi Arabia. However, for that to occur, the House of Saud will have to go beyond merely ‘stopping’ funding Syria-based terrorists. For stabilizing the oil market, the ‘Arab coalition’, aiding as it is the US-led coalition, will have to stop bombing Syrian oil fields and prevent the so-called “mini oil caliphate” (Islamic State) from bumping oil into markets for as low as $10 a barrel. Only then can order emerge out of chaos.
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Inquiry Finds Mounting Proof of Syria Link to Paris Attacks

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Mon, 11/16/2015 - 19:36
The media creates that which you are supposed to believe. Don't.
It was obvious all the accusatory fingers were going to point in that direction.
Cause there was a Syrian passport found immediately

PennyNovember 14, 2015 at 7:00 AMPutting this bit here:

A 'syrian' passport was found- near the man who detonated the suicide bomb?

which means nothing at all- these were being handed out like candy to the fleeing refugees- traded like kids trading hockey cards in Canada- at least the way they used to- what makes it interesting is that it tells us where the illegitimate authorities want us to look for the problem

If a Syrian passport was found on the attacker's body — and it was authentic — experts still say it is likely the attackers had closer ties to France than to Syria.

"It would certainly suggest that they'd spent time in Syria," counterterrorism expert Michael Leiter, who served in the administrations of George W. Bush and Barack Obama, told MSNBC's Alex Witt on Saturday. "But I think we're probably going to find out that these individuals had very, very deep ties to France, which will likely be many of these guys' homeland."
Deep, deep ties to France.. Of course since France provides so many ISIS jihadis for NATO in Syria- Admitted numbers contained in that post-
Top 10 countries by foreign fighters in Iraq and Syria

Country     Number of fighters Tunisia         5000
Saudi Arabia  2275
Jordan            2000
Russia            1700
France          1550
France has plenty of useful idiots to exploit as you can see and will read:
 NYT's On both sides of the Atlantic, the fast-moving investigation into the deadly Paris terrorist attacks steadily accumulated clues on Sunday: a car discovered in the Parisian suburbs with a cache of weapons. (NATO Stay behind aka Gladio weapons cache) Mounting proof of links between the Islamic State in Syria and the attackers. And intense scrutiny on three brothers, living in Belgium, as crucial suspects in the elaborate plot.
European intelligence officials said that the one attacker who they believed had gone to Syria was Ismaël Omar Mostefaï, a French citizen. He traveled to Turkey in 2012, and probably then slipped into Syria European officials said they believed the Paris attackers had used some kind of encrypted communication, but offered no evidence. “The working assumption is that these guys were very security aware, and they assumed they would be under some level of observation, and acted accordingly,” said a senior European counterterrorism official who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss confidential information.
Recall Turkey arresting the so called journalists from Vice and their companion? They were using encrypted communication also- I would assume that NATO encrypts their communications, particularly for their jihadis

But some analysts noted that many aspects of the assault had failed. The suicide bombers sent to attack the soccer match between France and Germany at the Stade de France did not inflict many casualties.  And he could of killed tens and tens of thousands. But the explosion came to late.

Perhaps these individuals were not in control of their explosive devices?

 And the suicide bombs used by at least six of the attackers were unsophisticated, according to some analysts. At one cafe in Paris, an attacker managed only to kill himself. Indeed, his explosives belt may have detonated prematurely on the way to a target in the 18th Arrondissement, officials said. Or these individuals were not in control of their explosive devices?

 The French interior minister, Bernard Cazeneuve, said the attackers had “prepared abroad and had mobilized a team of participants in Belgium, and who may have benefited — the investigation will tell us more — from complicity in France.”Prepared abroad? As in trained by the US in Jordan or Turkey? Something like that?
The immediate challenge for investigators is to identify all the attackers and piece together how they carried out the plot. French officials say that six attackers died by suicide bombs and a seventh died in a shootout with the police.
Loose ends tied up nicely

One of those who died after setting off a suicide bomb at the Bataclan concert hall, where 89 people were killed, was identified by the authorities after they recovered a finger and matched his prints to a file that listed him as radicalized and a potential security threat. He was named as Mr. Mostefaï, a native of Courcouronnes, France, who had been living in Chartres, about 60 miles southwest of Paris.

Mr. Mostefaï was the middle of five children born to an Algerian father and a Portuguese mother, and he had once worked at a bakery, according to a former neighbor at a housing development outside Chartres.

“It was a normal family, just like everybody else,” said the neighbor, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. “He played with my children. He never spoke about religion. He was normal. He had a joie de vivre. He laughed a lot.”

For reasons that are unclear, Mr. Mostefaï changed. “It was in 2010, that’s when he started to become radicalized,” the neighbor said. “We don’t understand what happened.”2010- The year before the Syrian destabilization kicked off- Groomed?  Timing?

European officials said Mr. Mostefaï traveled to Turkey in 2012 (met with CIA?)and probably continued into Syria. It was unclear exactly where he went during the trip, how long he stayed or whom he met, but officials said they were confident he had entered Syria. “Yes, it is very probable that he went to Syria after first traveling to Turkey,” the senior European counterterrorism official said. “He went there and then returned to France.”

In the effort to trace the others, investigators focused on Belgium. Authorities there have arrested several people in Molenbeek, a poor section of Brussels that is home to many Arab immigrants and that has been linked to past terrorist attacks.Good place to find candidates for NATO backed terrorists/ism... I've covered this previously. 

Belgian prosecutors identified one, Ibrahim Abdeslam, as the suicide bomber who struck the Comptoir Voltaire cafe. Another brother, Mohamed, was detained Saturday in Molenbeek.

A third, Salah Abdeslam, 26, described as dangerous, is the subject of a widening manhunt by the French. He apparently slipped through their fingers immediately after the attacks.

He was stopped and his papers were checked,” said Agnès Thibault-Lecuivre, a spokeswoman for the Paris prosecutor’s office. “It was a routine road check. He showed his papers. ”Someone always has to 'slip through their fingers'. You know, it keeps the terror narrative going.

Of course there is more at the NYT's link-
And finally

AnonymousNovember 15, 2015 at 8:29 AMOf interest should also be that the Eagles of Death Metal band were ardent and vocal supporters of Israel and ANTI-BDS advocates as noted in their wikipedia page. At one show in Israel the lead singer went off on a rant about Roger Waters and the BDS movement

Gee, now how would 3 people carrying AK-47s get into a venue unnoticed? With the band? HmmmmmmReplyDeleteReplies
  1. PennyNovember 15, 2015 at 1:19 PMThat would be the most obvious and simple explanation. And the most likelyDelete
AK47's at the venue? Surely they came in with the band. Entourage, roadies etc. Hell perhaps even the band members themselves? It's the most sensible explanation
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Breaking News: France is bombing Syria! Updated!

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Sun, 11/15/2015 - 16:19
 France is striking Raqqa, Syria. The alleged ISIS stronghold

France has carried out a massive airstrike on an Islamic State stronghold in Raqqa, Syria. It struck dozen’s of targets including a command and control center, training camp and munitions warehouse, the country’s defense ministry announced.
Ten French fighter jets took part in the country’s biggest air raid in Syria, the statement from the defense ministry read.#Syrie : bombardement massif français sur le fief de l'EI à Raqqa (Défense française)— Agence France-Presse (@afpfr) November 15, 2015The strike, coordinated with the United States, was carried out simultaneously from Jordan and the United Arab Emirates, according to Reuters.
As more news becomes available I will post it-
Many world leaders are in Turkey for the G20 presently- Including the 'rock star', as if, Trudeau. (rolls eyes)
France announces Raqqa airstrikes on ISISNBC
All the news is pretty much the same- limited details same as the RT report.US delivers more ammunition to fighters from Syrian Arab Coalition (Kurds)The so called 'syrian arab coalition' is run by YPG/PKK- I've covered this previously in several posts. The first delivery was supposed to be about 120 tons going to the NATO backed Kurdish militias   The United States has carried out a fresh delivery of ammunition to fighters from the Syrian Arab Coalition battling Islamic State in northern Syria, pushing ahead with a strategy that initially unnerved ally Turkey, a U.S. official told Reuters on Sunday.The delivery of ammunition represented only the second time the United States has moved to arm the Syrian Arab Coalition, a collection of about 10-12 groups numbering about 5,000 fighters. They are working with Kurds and others to claw back land from Islamic State. In a shift in approach, the latest U.S. resupply operation was completed on Saturday by delivering the weaponry by land, the U.S. official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.First large delivery to the Kurdish affiliates was via airdrops
It was not immediately clear who transported the ammunition into Syria, but the official said American troops did not drive them into the country.Further details on the operation were not immediately available. If I had to guess how these weapons were delivered, it wouldn't be to difficult.  I would just figure the weapons were delivered into Syria via that crucial supply route successfully created, just a few days ago, through Sinjar- Just like I said on Thursday. Sinjar was about creating a crucial supply route-
Sinjar: Creating a Crucial Supply Route for KurdIShIS & Annexing Iraqi TerritoryUpdate France bombing of Syria-

Syrian activists claim 'stadium, museum and medical clinics' hit after France launched air strikes on ISIS

Anti-ISIS activists in Syria claim a stadium, a museum, medical clinics and a political building have been hit after France launched airstrikes in retaliation for the Paris terror attack.
Raqqa Is Being Slaughtered Silently, a group of anonymous activists inside the ISIS stronghold, wrote that heavy strikes had been taking place since this morning.
The group began documented the airstrikes at around 8am and said it had increased to "30 airstrikes" this evening.
No civilian casualties have been reported yet, according to the group.

1-#Raqqa some of the places that the Airstrikes targeted 1-Stadium 2-Foresa area 3-Museum 4-Clinics Hospital 5-Political building #Syria— الرقة تذبح بصمت (@Raqqa_SL) November 15, 2015
#Raqqa it seems that #France who bomb #Raqqa #ISIL— الرقة تذبح بصمت (@Raqqa_SL) November 15, 2015
Update # 2:

 French Foreign Minister: Decision on Syria Airstrikes Was Made Saturday

 Turkey--France’s decision to attack Islamic State’s stronghold in Syria was made Saturday, a day after coordinated terrorist attacks killed more than 100 people in Paris, Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said.“France has always said that because she has been threatened and attacked by Daesh, it would be normal that she would react in the framework of self-defense. That’s what we did today with the strikes on Raqqa,” Mr. Fabius told journalists Sunday following the first day of a summit of the Group of 20 leading industrialized and developing nations.
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NATO's Turn To Attack

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Sat, 11/14/2015 - 16:37
 Since the Paris attacks yesterday, I've had a feeling of dread-

 Anyone who is suggesting/claiming or implying this is not a NATO stay behind/Gladio type attack, with the NATO global tyranny/war machine as the biggest benefactor, getting their 'dream come true', is blowing smoke up your skirt- Period.
Paris Attacks- Cui Bono? Think NATO's Secret Armies AKA Gladio!Now is not the time to believe in 'blowback', unintended consequences and all other misleading nonsense- Much is at stake and cool heads have to prevail!

From my previous post:
 Sinjar: Creating a Crucial Supply Route for KurdIShIS & Annexing Iraqi Territory
 "Additionally, it sure looks as if NATO intends to increase the warfare. Any way possible. Worsening Iraq and Syria with an eye to Turkey as well. As I've mentioned.On multiple occasions. In many posts.This is about redrawing the borders of the middle east- Weakening certain states. Strengthening others. This is about ethnic cleansing. Displacing persons. 
You want simple narratives? The war mongering  media and plenty of other so called alt media sites will spoon feed you all the drivel you can stomache" Now let's read this latest piece and then take the time to listen to Patrick Henningsen.
In Brussels, at the political headquarters of NATO, and in Mons, the military “Pentagon” of NATO just an hour south, officials will be working through the weekend. The 28-nation alliance, after all, is founded on one key premise enshrined in the Article 5 of its founding treaty: “The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked.” It is worth noting that the only country to ever activate Article 5 was the United States after the 9/11 attacks in 2001.If France would like to become the second such country, the first step would be to call for an Article 4 consultation, which would convene the ambassadors of the 28 nations, who are in permanent session in Brussels, to discuss the situation and decide a course of action. This happened most recently in 2014, when Turkey requested an Article 4 meeting after the Islamic State attacks there. It seems likely that an Article 4 meeting would conclude that the Paris massacres, given their scale and scope, should be considered an attack under Article 5. That would be entirely appropriate. The terrorist attacks — assuming that the Islamic State is, in fact, responsible for them — are the culmination of a long-running humanitarian disaster in Syria that has destabilized the Middle East and initiated the flow of millions of refugees into the heart of Europe. NATO can no longer pretend the conflict does not affect its most basic interests.
The fundamental purpose of a NATO mission should be to defeat the Islamic state in Syria and destroy the infrastructure it has created there. Such a mission would have the additional benefit of demonstrating that NATO is willing to act decisively when it is under threat.Setting aside the internal disagreements that sometimes slow it down, NATO is an imposing military force. NATO has tremendous military resources at its disposal, including over 3 million troops under arms (and more in reserve), over 25,000 military aircraft, 800 oceangoing major combatant ships, and 50 AWACS aircraft. Meanwhile, the group’s 28 nations represent over 50 percent of global GDP. A major NATO mission against the Islamic State would consist of a number of smaller, practical steps. First, according to NATO’s treaty, the incident must be referred to the U.N. Security Council. In terms of international law, it would be ideal for the Security Council to endorse a military response, though NATO would be capable of proceeding regardless.Second, the alliance should assign one of its major joint commands to lead the planning and conduct of any operational response. Since the Allied Joint Force Command in Brunssum in the Netherlands is fully engaged as the lead command for Afghanistan, the task would likely fall to the other major command: the Allied Joint Force Command in Naples, Italy. This is the command that conducted the intervention in Libya and is one that has significant planning and operational experience, as well as deep connections to coalition partners from the region — the United Arab Emirates, Jordan, Qatar, and others. NATO’s military planners should aim to include not only the alliance’s official members, but also its many coalition partners, including Sweden, Finland, and other regional actors.A third key initiative would be to prepare NATO special forces for a central role in military operations. NATO Special Operations Headquarters in Casteau, Belgium, should take the lead in organizing intelligence-sharing among member states; it should also prepare the alliance’s joint special forces to be deployed on the ground in Syria to train and motivate anti-Islamic State fighters, gather firsthand intelligence, conduct raids, and serve as spotters for NATO and coalition aircraft.Fourth, and most importantly in the long term, NATO should organize a training mission to work with both the combined Kurdish Peshmerga-Yazidi force operating in northern Iraq and the Iraqi security forces in Baghdad. Jordan — which has highly capable ground troops — should also be invited to participate at a high level. These efforts could be modeled on the NATO Training Mission-Iraq (NTM-I), which was in place from 2004 to 2011.I took a lot of hell for making the claims I did about the Kurds and their allegiance to NATO- The Kurdish militias were not victims/underdogs forced into this fight. That's perception management extraordinaire! I reminded readers here to think about why the media pushed so hard on that meme? The Kurds were fully aware of what they were involved in, were willingly participating in destroying Syria, Iraq and Turkey, as they fully allied themselves with NATO. The Kurds are ready to go.
Fifth, the current U.S.-led bombing campaign in Syria and Iraq should come under NATO leadership. NATO could then increase the assets deployed in that mission by contributing additional aircraft, troops, ordnance, and AWACS aircraft, whose powerful radar provide 360-degree coverage of air battle space. NATO very effectively organized command and control over airspace in Afghanistan, and it could do the same in the current conflict. Lastly, NATO should emphasize that it is building an “open coalition,” one that can not only include the forces of traditional allies, but also those of NATO’s traditional adversary, Russia. The Russian government claims to want to defeat the Islamic State, and it should have no lack of motivation, given the over 200 dead citizens — including many women and children — who seem to have been massacred by the Islamic State in the downing of a civilian aircraft just two weeks ago. Russia should be invited to participate alongside NATO and other coalition members against the Islamic State
Patrick Henningsen on RT

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Justice for Jack Yantis: Don't Leave the Investigation to the "Professionals"

freedominourtime - Sat, 11/14/2015 - 12:51

Scene of the crime shortly after Jack Yantis was fatally shot.

The first rule of bureaucratic crisis management is: “Find someone else to blame.” This is true even in agencies as small as the Adams County Sheriff’s Office.
Sheriff Ryan Zollman would have an insuperable conflict of interest were he to conduct the official inquiry into the November 1st killing of Jack Yantis. He could have avoided that conflict by firing the deputies, charging them as private citizens, and then turning the evidence over to a special prosecutor. 

This would have provoked trouble with the Fraternal Order of Police and precipitated a grievance with the Idaho State Industrial Commission, but it would also have demonstrated to Zollman’s constituents that the killing was being investigated as a criminal homicide, rather than a suspected “assault on law enforcement.” 
The inquiry was handed over to the Idaho State Police, an agency that reliably botches investigations of this kind – whether they deal with a previous officer-involved homicides, or pervasive corruption within Idaho’s prison system. Attorney General Lawrence Wasden has now invited the FBI to conduct its own investigation.
“We want to be deliberate and thorough,” insists Wendy Olson, the U.S. Attorney for Idaho. “ISP will be thorough, the FBI will be thorough.” In the meantime, “people need to be patient” as official procedures are followed.Thoroughness is not the summum bonum in an investigation of this kind: Anybody engaged in a cover-up is certainly motivated to be thorough. Richard Nixon expected his “plumbers” to be thorough in their efforts to prevent transparency and accountability. 
Furthermore, the objective in staging multiple investigations is not thoroughness, but diffusion of responsibility. There is a vanishingly small possibility that the still-unnamed and still-publicly compensated killers could be put on trial for criminal homicide, or face federal civil rights charges in the event no state charges are filed. On previous performance it’s more likely that the two “independent” investigations, which will be sharing the same evidence, will both rule the killing “justified.” Should that happen, Yantis’s family and friends will receive the familiar condescending lecture about the need to “respect the process.” In less elevated language this means, essentially, “Sucks to be you.”Wasden
The officials presiding over the “independent” inquiries operate on a sliding scale of zealousness. Lawrence Wasden displayed great zeal in pursuing felony charges against Carol Asher, a retired schoolteacher who frustrated a prosecutor by acting as a conscientious juror
In her ardor for what she pretended was justice, Wendy Olson set aside the findings of a local investigation and threatened to send Bonners Ferry resident Jeremy Hill to federal prison for the supposed crime of shooting a grizzly bear that threatened his family. She eventually extorted $1,000 from Hill to end her vindictive and unwarranted prosecution. 

Neither of those “offenses” involved actual crimes of violence against human beings. But neither of those “suspects” was swaddled in the habiliments of the state’s punitive priesthood, or invested with “qualified immunity.” And besides, Jack Yantis was “no stranger to the police,” as the Washington Post archly observed, taking note of an inconsequential record that included a traffic infraction, two DUIs and a charge of “resisting and obstructing,” the last of which should have earned him a commendation, rather than a citation.
The Post and other state-centric media outlets continue to insinuate that Yantis was in some sense responsible for his own death. This is true only to the extent that if Yantis hadn’t cooperated with a request to help the over-matched deputies deal with the wounded bull, which underscores the wisdom of avoiding any contact whatsoever with the state’s privileged purveyors of sanctified violence. 
Media coverage of the Yantis killing, predictably, is freighted with intimations of potential violence against Sheriff Zollman and other officials from the rural “anti-government extremists” who populate Adams County. Sheriff Zollman, who seems like an earnest and decent man, reports that his family has received death threats, and he has refused to disclose the names of the deputies who killed Yantis in order to spare them similar treatment. This wouldn’t be a problem if the deputies had been charged with a criminal offense and taken into custody – or even released on bail once charges had been filed. Threats of the kind Zollman allegedly received are precipitated by frustration over the privileged status of law enforcement officers implicated in wrongful deaths or other acts of criminal violence.
Any evidence that Yantis assaulted or threatened the deputies would have been provided to the public within hours of the incident. If two Adams County citizens had shot and killed a sheriff’s deputy, they would have been incarcerated without bail, and their names would be known.

Despite Sheriff Zollman’s reticence, Adams County residents have identified two of his deputies as the shooters. If those men (whose names have been made known to me) are not the would-be suspects, the sheriff is doing them no favors by withholding the names of the deputies who killed Yantis. In either case, the pretense of secrecy cannot continue much longer in the age of social media.  Whenever law enforcement agencies investigate each other, the priority is to uphold “order” and vindicate “authority,” rather than to impose accountability for official misconduct. Stipulating that the “official” authority claimed by any government functionary is entirely fictitious, Sheriff Zollman could have exercised moral authority in the service of ordered liberty by filing charges against the deputies and requiring them to undergo the same process that would be endured by similarly situated defendants who were not part of the state’s enforcement caste. 
Since Zollman has abdicated his responsibilities, the task of carrying out a truly independent investigation should be carried out by a citizens’ grand jury. That panel would act as a fact-finding body, taking testimony from witnesses and, if suitable evidence is found, delivering a “presentment” against the deputies to the county prosecutor. 
The State of Idaho’s official judicial guidelines describe a Grand Jury as “a panel of citizens called together to hear evidence and determine if criminal charges should be initiated.” There is no requirement that the panel be “called together” by the sheriff, prosecutor, or the local courts.
Were a citizens’ grand jury to be assembled in Adams County, the air will be clotted with frantic warnings about “vigilante justice,” the Southern Poverty Law Center will denounce the development as a manifestation of the much-dreaded and little-defined “sovereign citizen movement,” and sanctimonious chin-pullers will insist that matters of this kind are best handled by “professionals.” This will make sense only to people completely ignorant of the original purpose of the grand jury.
As legal scholar Roger Roots points out, the “grand jury in its primal, plenary sense … was a group of men who stood as a check on government, often in direct opposition to the desires of those in power.” Far from being an instrument of the political elite, “American grand juries initiated prosecutions against corrupt agents of the government, often in response to complaints from individuals.”

When the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure were adopted in 1946, the grand jury – which had always been a non-government entity – became the “total captive of the prosecutor,” in the words of former federal Judge William J. Campbell.The Advisory Committee on the Rules of Criminal Procedure, significantly, was an appointed body without legislative authority, popular mandate, or accountability: It was assembled by the FDR regime out of people representing the prosecutorial class. The result was a “grand jury” procedure that effectively ended the public’s role in the administration of justice. By organizing an independent grand jury to investigate the Yantis killing, Adams County citizens would be acting to restore the rule of law, rather than to subvert it. 
Like all “official” investigations of its kind, the inquiry into the killing of Jack Yantis is a liturgy intended to reinforce the “legitimacy” of the agency that employed the killers. This is why the pursuit of actual justice is a task that cannot be entrusted to the “professionals."
This week's Freedom Zealot Podcast deals with the rise of the "Safe Space" Totalitarians:

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