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How Trump Became a Russia Skeptic: The Conventional Wisdom About a Kremlin-Friendly White House Is Dated

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Tue, 04/11/2017 - 17:39
 Dated or never existed?

This was the title of an article published by Wall Street Journal April 03/2017. An oped written by  Adrian Karatnycky. Nonresident Senior Fellow, Dinu Patriciu Eurasia Center.
 Expertise: Topics- Transatlantic Relations, US Foreign Policy-Regions:Poland, Russia, Ukraine Languages:Polish, Russian, Ukrainian Eight days ago.

I tried for two days to get the entire news article, but, was unsuccessful. Then got sidetracked with the real world and the attack on Syria. On April 3rd, I thought "well isn't this was an interesting admission". Not a surprising admission, at least not surprising for me. Speaking for myself I didn't believe any of the claims that Trump was Russia friendly. Not A One of them! As stated in this post: Trump's Presidency: A Dangerous Deception
 "Personally speaking here. I've never been a believer in "the Donald" as the leader of any sort of grassroots/populist movement. Nor do I buy the common presentation of the media being opposed to him. I'm also not a fan of the whole 'deep state' is against Mr Trump. I see the psychology of influence at play"What the April 03 oped suggested to me was a change in tone towards Russia, accompanied by an interesting illustration that represents that change. As you can see below
Illustration defined:
-a picture illustrating a book, newspaper, etc.
- the action or fact of illustrating something, either pictorially or by exemplification-The illustration (picture) accompanying the oped very much encapsulated, pictorially, a change that was on the horizon. The attack on Syria. The very aggressive language and threats taken against yet another sovereign nation state, Russia.

On April 04/17- One day after WSJ published the article I was able to get a few paragraphs via Fox News

 A Kremlin spokesman told ABC News on Friday that despite the new administration in Washington, Russian-American relations remain “at the lowest possible point.” Yet the spokesman also suggested that if Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin were to meet in person “there will be chance for our volatile relations to get better.”

These are telling remarks, given that only a few months ago Mr. Putin was salivating at the thought of a Trump presidency. Mr. Trump had extolled the Russian leader, declared the North Atlantic Treaty Organization “obsolete,” and hinted that the U.S. might accept Russia’s annexation of Crimea. A few years ago Steve Bannon, an influential Trump adviser, promoted the idea of a grand alliance between the West and a traditionalist Russia against secularism and Islam. Mike Flynn, a Putin-friendly recipient of Moscow’s largess, was appointed national security adviser.

Yet as the investigations continue into Trumpworld’s Russia connections, the White House has replaced these friendly soundings with a sober, decidedly hawkish stance.

As the atmosphere shifts, Russia’s state-controlled and state-directed media have begun to turn against Mr. Trump, suggesting that Moscow no longer expects a cooperative relationship., a Kremlin mouthpiece, called Mr. Trump a narcissist not long after he took office.Would've loved to read the rest- Still would! If anyone can help?

A question for readers? Stumbled across a Reuters report this morning. Can't find any updates or additional reporting regarding this news. What do you all make of this?

 Black smoke rising from Moscow's Vnukovo airport - Reuters photographer
This was the airport that Rex Tillerson was set to land at. (He's in Russia presently)
"A Reuters photographer at Moscow's Vnukovo airport said on Tuesday there was black smoke rising from a part of the airfield where planes are parked. U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson is due to land at the airport on Tuesday afternoon to begin a visit to Moscow. The photographer said when the smoke was spotted, Tillerson's aircraft had yet to land. Officials at the airport could not immediately be reached for comment"
Black smoke. Some type of fuel burning?
Don't know for sure...  Is this the named airport? Not sure.
Was the Reuter's reporter expecting more?
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Turkey's Referendum: Is The Sky Really Falling?

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Mon, 04/10/2017 - 18:07
 Of course, it isn’t. Though one could excuse the powers that shouldn’t be from being concerned or having us believe that this is worrisome. 

I've gathered up a bunch of information regarding Turkey's referendum which will take place April 16/17. I omitted spin and manipulative language in order to keep the emotional reaction down to a dull roar. This was the intro post: Giant "Evet" Referendum Rally In Turkey

Some background

Turkey’s induction into NATO was covered in this post -West Unhinged Over Turkish Referendum As was the rarely mentioned roll of the US placement of missiles in Turkey aimed at Russia which actually instigated the Cuban missile crisis. It seems to me it is the Atlantacist establishment and media that are making the most noise about Turkey’s referendum. The Atlantacist, are described most accurately as the clique that comprises of the 5 Eyes Nations The five eyes are the UK, US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand.

Edward Snowden  accurately described these nations and their combined intelligence gathering capabilites cooperation as “supranational”.  Operating as an entity above the individual nation states that make up the group. What  Snowden  was saying was neither startling or bold, it was just a statement of the obvious and what one would expect from a ‘limited hangout’  I would take it further and suggest these nations work together to exercise control over many other nations states, with an eye to global manipulation. Turkey is a nation, occupied/integrated and definitely manipulated, but not well tolerated, by the  5 eyes/ NATO/Atlantacist establishment.

What is it about Turkey that necessitates such heavy control through external manipulations?

What’s that saying in real estate? Location. Location, Location. Turkey's location on the planet is  equal to prime real estate in some desired locale.
*Turkey is the land bridge between Asia and the Middle East
*Turkey is also nation state that ties Europe to the Middle East
 *An ability to traverse or an ability to deny travel in the Turkish Straits is extremely geo-strategically significant- To say the least.

*Particularly if one has an eye to marginalizing Russia!
The Turkish Straits? 
The Turkish Straits are compromised of the Bosphorus, the Sea of Marmara and the Dardanelles

The Turkish Straits (Turkish: Türk Bogazlari) are a series of internationally-significant waterways in northwestern Turkey that connect the Aegean and Mediterranean seas to the Black Sea.

They consist of the Dardanelles, the Sea of Marmara, and the Bosphorus, all part of the sovereign sea territory of Turkey and subject to the regime of internal waters. They are conventionally considered the boundary between the continents of Europe and Asia, as well as the dividing line between European Turkey and Asian Turkey.
Owing to their strategic importance in international commerce, politics, and warfare, the Turkish Straits have played a significant role in European and world history

The modern treaty controlling relations is the 1936 Montreux Convention Regarding the Regime of the Turkish Straits, which is still in force. It gives the Republic of Turkey control over warships entering the straits but guarantees the free passage of civilian vessels in peacetime.
Let's repeat that and let it sink in, ok? "It gives the Republic of Turkey control over warships entering the strait"

If you are so inclined you can read more about this waterway and the agreements for use etc.,

I'm sure that certain parties (unnamed)  believe they'd be better served if controlling the access to or denial of these straits was more amenable to their specific interests.

 Some warship related stipulations in the Montreux Convention:
-The treaty limits the access of warships from non-Black Sea nations, but allows Russia and other Black Sea states to move warships through the Turkish Straits to the Mediterranean Sea with few restrictions; -The convention also restricts outside navies’ access to the Turkish Straits and Black Sea to 21 straight days per warship, and to a maximum aggregate tonnage of 45,000 tons, with any one vessel no heavier than 15,000 tons. Non-Black Sea states must also give Turkey a 15-day notice before sending warships through the straits; Turkey is the custodian of the straits; -In case of a war “belligerent powers” would be banned from the Straits. That’s what happened during World War II, when Turkey remained neutral and neither Germany nor the USSR could use the Bosporus and the Dardanelles; -Aircraft carriers of any flag are banned from the Turkish Straits, both in times of peace and of war.And all of a sudden the overthrow of the legitimate Ukraine government makes even more sense!
Flashback : Turkey Seeks To End NATO Patrols In Aegean Sea

Back to the Turkish referendum

 Is it a threat to certain vested interests? External parties and organizations?  Perhaps it is. However since Turkey is a sovereign nation state ...  It's entirely realistic that the Turkish populace can elect to change their own constitution. Perhaps a a globalist, like David Rockefeller, a one world government kind of believer would disagree? See: James Corbett: The Unauthorized Biography of David Rockefeller. But, I'm not one of those.

From a Parliamentary System to a Presidential System
 Turkey's system right now is more like Canada's
 If the "Evet" Vote wins Turkey's system of government will be more like the US
 Below are the 18 proposed constitutional changes

Wall Street Journal - I've edited the spin to just deal with the facts of the matter
1- What is the referendum about  Turkish voters will approve or decline a group of 18 constitutional reforms that passed through parliament in December. The changes envisions creating an executive presidency like those in the U.S. and Russia, which would turn Mr. Erdogan’s mostly ceremonial office into the seat of governmentAs of stated on multiple, multiple, multiple occasions here the office of President, which is presently held by Erdogan is mostly ceremonial. The executive power has, to date, been in the office of the Prime Minister-- That fact has always been ignored
 It would reduce parliament, which currently houses the cabinet, into a purely legislative body. The draft also increases the number of lawmakers to 600 from 550, while reducing the age to run for office to 18 from 25. Another controversial shift is the president’s ability to directly and indirectly appoint constitutional court judges and other judges. (WSJ doesn't explain the mechanism between directly appointing and indirectly appointing court judges- to what courts etc) Doesn't President Trump appoint judges to the supreme and other courts? Directly or indirectly? Yes, he and all other US Presidents do exactly that, as stated by the constitution!*Supreme Court justices, court of appeals judges, and district court judges are nominated by the President and confirmed by the United States Senate, as stated in the Constitution. 2- Why do the government and Mr. Erdogan want to amend the constitution?   Such a move would reduce instability and regime crisis stemming from competing centers of power, according to Mr. Erdogan and his deputies. 3- Why is the proposal controversial? It is claimed by those that oppose this constitutional amendment that " The proposal would also weaken existing incentives for political compromise by guaranteeing one-party rule, destroy minority parties and undermine checks-and-balances, they say"Of course, we can't know if what "they say" is accurate
4  What is the campaign like?
The “Yes” vote is being spearheaded by Prime Minister Binali Yildirim and President Erdogan. They are promising to campaign in each province–and their campaign rallies are carried live on all television channels, giving them a huge reach. The “No” side doesn’t have a unified leadership, but leaders of multiple opposition parties are speaking in daily rallies to their own voters. Community activists and civil society groups are canvassing neighborhoods with their message against the reforms. Social media is also a big platform used by both side
5 What will it take for the referendum to pass Turkey has 58 million registered voters–55 million at home and 3 million expatriates–who will be eligible to cast ballots on April 16. Turnout is very important in this tight race: the referendum will pass or fail by the majority of votes cast on that day.

Interestingly DW found plenty of Kurds willing to vote "Yvet" in the referendum- No tension, but, lots of anticipation of the outcome. Thanks DW for the spin.. regarding Turkish oppression and contingency plans (manipulative) no one is saying their going to flee the nation. Being on stand by is not a surprise because I can recall that same thing happening when the last referendum took place in Quebec- Kurds are not a black and white case in Turkey- unsurprising to me. Many blame the PKK for the violence that they live through! Yes, that is the Kurds that blame the PKK- which is not a surprise, again! A Kurdish man, who loves President Erdogan? Something we'd never hear of in the west, I mean, 5 eyes media. It's an interesting 10 minutes. Give it a listen and share some thoughts.

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Giant "Evet" Referendum Rally In Turkey

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Sun, 04/09/2017 - 11:08
Consider this an introduction to a NO SPIN series on the upcoming Turkish referendum

"Evet" means Yes/yeah in Turkish. So this referendum is in support of the yes vote for constitutional change.

For background you may want to read the post linked in the sidebar West Unhinged Over Turkish Referendum. This a referendum for the Turkish people. As already stated..
"Speaking for myself I can no more condemn the Turk’s right to have a referendum on the future direction of their nation state then I could condemn Crimea for doing the same"  Certain parties have a very vested interest in demonizing (to mark out or describe as evil or culpable: the technique of demonizing the enemy in the run-up to war) Turkey and the Turkish people for daring to hold this referendum! This vested interest explains the incredibly heavy handed vilification of the referendum and of the sovereign nation state, by, those that would prefer a unipolar global tyranny. I'm not one of those people, therefore, I refuse to participate in that type of activity. I prefer to leave that to the compromised media, alt and msm and the troll armies that pollute the common discourse.

If you would like to participate in rational discussion? Great!
If you wish to employ emotional rhetoric and logical fallacies... Don't bother participating.


It's claimed in the above article their are "tens of thousands" 
Looks to me to be well over 100,000 in attendance probably even 200,000+.

You can click on the image to enlarge and see it is literally a sea of people

In my youth I attended large stadium concerts and this crowd is much larger then any I'd been in or seen! (Largest crowd I'd been in-75,000- Rich Stadium, Buffalo- General Admission madness!)

Millions gather in Istanbul to support the ‘Yes’ campaign in the upcoming referendum
Lots of women Women smiling and cheering in colourful dress- And make up!Common memes would have had me believe that women in Turkey would be shackled in the kitchen. Apparently not!


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“America First”? Really? US Takes Israeli Cue including Pretext for Attack

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Fri, 04/07/2017 - 17:39
America First?- So Donald Trump said.
America first was not apparent in the strike on Syria.
Globalist, Bankers, Israel first looked more to be the reality.
Yes, Israel, that’s what struck me about this US attack. This move echoed the usual Israeli airstrikes that benefit the terrorists in Syria. Was the US acting to benefit Israel? To take the heat off of Israel’s constant support of terrorists? Advancing the balkanization agenda?
Working towards that no fly zone? I’d say it was all of the aforementioned. As stated the so called ‘chemical attack’ was a total pretext created so US could intervene. A more  likely scenario was provided in the post relinked below:

 No Fly/Safe Zone Pretext for Syria? Cause Trump was Absolutely Going To Do Safe Zones!

 Let's entertain these thoughts, with a ht to hubby. The "rebels" or perhaps US/Israeli/UK Special OPS, (we know they are on the ground in Syria and had intelligence and the logistic capabilities to undertake such an op ) had mortar shells loaded with a chemical munition, knowing airstrikes were inevitable, they launched their mortars either in advance of and/or during airstrikes and then immediately cried wolf.  The airstrikes providing the ultimate distraction. These actors provided the US/Israel with the desired pretext. Thanks Don!

hattip Nora!
Nora TellicatApril 7, 2017 at 10:19 AMI'm sure you guys have already found this, sharing anyway. Cheers Penny!
Immediately preceding the attack the terrorists made advances. And there are reports of civilian deaths. RT
“Undoubtedly, the American attack on the Shayrat air force base was aimed at supporting terrorist groups and weakening the fighting capacity of the army of the Syrian Army, which is fighting the terrorists,” Barazi told RT. “According to recent reports, the attack resulted in the deaths of five soldiers and nine civilians and the wounding of thirteen women and children who were in the nearby Shayrat village.”There is a discrepancy between the Tomahawks launched- 59 claimed, and corresponding hits on the airbase. TASS
MOSCOW, April 7. /TASS/. Only 23 out of 59 cruise missiles fired from US warships at a Syrian air base hit the target, according to Russia’s data recording equipment, Defense Ministry spokesman Major-General Igor Konashenkov said on Friday.
The #USSPorter and #USSRoss fired #Tomahawk missiles into Syria in retaliation for the Assad regime using nerve agents against its people.— U.S. Dept of Defense (@DeptofDefense) 7 April 2017"The combat effectiveness of the US massive missile strike on Syria’s airbase was thus very low," the ministry's spokesman stressed.
"According to the data recording equipment, only 23 missiles reached the Syrian air base. The place where the other missiles fell remains unknown," the spokesman said.  Tomahawks really aren't "all that" (Superior. Admired)

In Search of a (FEW) Lost Cruise Missile - From 2003
“A Tomahawk cruise missile is not easy to lose. The very reason the U.S. military is willing to spend $750,000 a piece on the precision-guided munitions is precisely that they go exactly where they?re told. But in the past week, three U.S. Tomahawks have gone missing in the rocky plains of southeastern Turkey en route to Iraq, several hundred miles from the war zone. Five more went astray in Saudi Arabia, and a handful of others have broken up in Iran and, reportedly, Syria”
Including in the US- 2016 Tomahawk Missile Very Nearly Misses Florida Fisherman

There was scary situation Tuesday near Eglin Air Force base, where a Tomahawk missile crashed in Okaloosa County.
It happened during a Navy test run, and the missile was not armed with explosives or radioactive material.
While no one was injured, it was a close call for a fisherman who witnessed the missile crash from his boat. Making it very likely the missiles went astray and killed civilians.

U.N. ambassador Nikki Haley warns U.S. "prepared to do more" after Syria strike

This woman is vile. She should make the pussyhat feminists proud. She's the quintessential ugly American.

What about Turkey? It's reported that Russia and Turkey are still in touch! 
And talkin' Syria  Russia's foreign minister discussed Syria with his Turkish counterpart

Russia's Foreign Ministry said on Friday that Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov discussed the U.S. missile strike on Syria with his Turkish counterpart Mevlut Cavusoglu by phone. "The importance of an objective, impartial investigation into all circumstances of the tragedy in Khan Sheikhoun along with cases of chemical weapons use by terrorist groups in the past were underlined," it said in a statement, referring to Tuesday's gas attack in that town.If I had to guess at why Turkey is 'going along to get along' with the US move, I'd say one word
"Referendum"  Just 9 days away...
RescueApril 6, 2017 at 6:30 PM" As I told you Erdogan is being blackmailed by the US, instead of resigning he would rather sell Turkey down the river" Not sure how we can know that. There is the Halkbank Deputy CEO arrest, immediately preceding the Tillerson visit- Is that the blackmail situation Rescue references? I don't know. What I do know is Turkey did circumvent the US imposed sanctions to trade with Iran- the deed is done and the ire of the US is already raisedUS arrests Turkish bankerA senior executive at one of Turkey’s largest state-owned banks was arrested in the U.S. on charges of conspiring to evade trade sanctions on Iran, escalating a case that has prompted diplomatic tensions and political maneuvering between the two countries.
Mehmet Hakan Atilla, a deputy chief executive officer at Turkiye Halk Bankasi AS, is accused of conspiring with Reza Zarrab, (the US has held him for quite some time) an Iranian-Turkish gold trader, to launder hundreds of millions of dollars through the U.S. financial system on behalf of Iran and its companies.
Covered the arrest of Reza Zarrab in 2013:Turkey: Halkbank - Role in Iran Gold Transactions Legal

UPDATE: Turkish Banker is Indicted by US in Iran Sanctions Circumvention Case 

7:30 est: The indictment against Mehmet Hakan Atilla, a deputy chief executive at Turkiye Halk Bankasi AS, one of Turkey’s largest banks, is largely a legal formality that adds him as a defendant to the case against Reza Zarrab, a Turkish-Iranian businessman.
 The case against Zarrab has become a high-profile controversy in the U.S. and has roiled diplomatic relations with Turkey. Zarrab has hired former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani and ex-U.S. Attorney General Michael Mukasey to seek a resolution to his case, and the two have met with Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdogan and sought high-level U.S. talks on his behalf. Earlier this week, a U.S. judge ordered a hearing into Giuliani and Mukasey’s activities and said he wanted to know who was paying Zarrab’s legal bills.
Strikes on Syria: Game Changer Between US and Turkey?
"There will be, however, some difficult points ahead for U.S.-Turkey relations, even if the missile strikes open space for improved cooperation. If Turkey is serious about helping, it could step forward now to provide the ground troops for safe zones to protect refugees, thereby re-establishing a solid link with the American military, which has been skeptical for some time about Turkish intentions and capabilities. Those zones must not provide a basis for military action against the Syrian Kurdish militia, the Y.P.G., or be a shelter for al-Qaeda linked groups embedded in the Turkish-backed rebel forces. Ankara already understands that Washington intends to still rely on its local forces of Kurds, Arabs, and others to complete the capture of Mosul and Raqqa, and that understanding should not be broken. Ankara did not treat Secretary of State Rex Tillerson courteously in his recent visit, seemingly ignoring the fact that he was the third and highest ranking U.S. visitor to Turkey in the last two months. Publicly lecturing the most consistent friend Turkey has had in the last 75 years is hardly productive, yet Turkey chooses to indulge in these emotional outbursts for short-term domestic gains. There is a great deal of good to be done when Turkey and the United States see eye-to-eye. These strikes provide yet another opportunity for these two countries to realize that potential" Time will tell

Do not believe there is any truth whatsoever to US claims of avoiding sarin stores at Syrian Airbase- Just utter rubbish 
 “There were measures put in place to avoid hitting what we believe is a storage of sarin gas, so that that would not be ignited and cause a hazard to civilians or anyone else,” he said.As mentioned above the US cannot control the missiles and many,  many missiles have gone astray- so there is not a way in hell that can be considered credible!

Might this explain the 60 percent failure rate ?

An electronic warfare advantage? If anyone can expand on these capabilities that would be great!

Several systems at Russia’s disposal
“To win a contemporary war, it is not enough to dominate in the air. It is necessary to secure an information advantage,” says Vladimir Balybin, Head of the research centre for radio-electronic battle and concealment efficiency. Apart from Khibiny, the Russian defence industry manufactures various types of equipment that could surprise active enemy units as well as criminals and terrorists.  Airborne forces are being re-equipped with Infauna complexes. These are installed on armoured vehicles or other military vehicles and can locate and jam enemy’s radio connection in short wave and ultra-short wave frequencies, and “put out” remotely-controlled land-bombs. They will explode but only after the Russian troops have passed by and are far enough to be safe. Infauna has another function: the optic sensors installed on both sides of the vehicle spot flashes of discharges and command laying smokes-screen to protect convoys from fire.The Lesochek device fulfils the same functions as Infauna but is portable and can fit into a backpack or a suitcase.  It can be useful at important talks for protection against most advanced security services interception systems. The Borisoglebsk-2 is the core of the radio-electronic warfare of the tactical units of the Russian army. It comprises an automated command point and four types of jamming stations – they use a single algorithm to identify and jam the sources of hostile activity on the air. The Zhitel device locates and blocks satellite and mobile phones, subscription complexes of GPS-navigation. It proved efficient during the conflict in South Ossetia by misleading Georgian drone aircraft.
From earlier today:
  1. James Corbett: The Unauthorized Biography of David Rockefeller
  2. Turkey Referendum: CIA-NATO Operation to Tip the Balance of Power
  3. Where is my Anthropogenic Global Warming- Snow!
The previous day:
  1. US Launches Airstrikes Against Syria- Military Intervention Begins
  2. No Fly/Safe Zone Pretext for Syria? Cause Trump was Absolutely Going To Do Safe Zones!
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James Corbett: The Unauthorized Biography of David Rockefeller

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Fri, 04/07/2017 - 10:36

Episode 316 – The Unauthorized Biography of David Rockefeller David Rockefeller is dead. But what does it mean? How do we measure the life of someone who has shaped the modern world to such an extent? Join us for this week’s edition of The Corbett Report where we examine David Rockefeller’s life, his works and the world that he left in his wake.
Excellent little video- worth the hour for sure! Corbett Report

Transcript available here

From earlier today:
And yesterday:

 Later today, I'll have some news regarding Syria- waiting for the dust to settle while gathering links... 
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Turkey Referendum: CIA-NATO Operation to Tip the Balance of Power

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Fri, 04/07/2017 - 10:27
PeterApril 6, 2017 at 4:36 PMSibel Edmonds is predicting Erdogan assassination in the next few weeks.
Took the time to watch the video.
Dated before the airstrikes took place,but, still worth watching IMO- William Engdahl appears

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Where is my Anthropogenic Global Warming- Snow!

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Fri, 04/07/2017 - 07:29
I do not buy the commonly presented concept of AGW- nor the necessity for the imposition of taxes on life aka carbon taxes.

It's April 07/2017 and here in southern Ontario the ground is fully covered with snow, looks to be about two inches/5 cm and it's still snowing and blowing- The trees have not unfurled their leaves and snow drops and crocuses have opened this past week.

We have two family birthdays around this time of year.. and they've been consistently cold and dreary for years now- Including snow- However ten plus years ago they were more spring like and sometimes even summer like- But not anymore!

Where is the warming?

Update 11:22 am est and the snowfall is getting lighter (smaller flakes) and wetter. Yahoo
Looking forward to some warmer temps in a couple of days

Just remember..Cold Weather is Much Deadlier Then Extreme Heat

A final thought: All this alleged concern about carbon doesn't impede the war machine ever. 
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US Launches Airstrikes Against Syria- Military Intervention Begins

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Thu, 04/06/2017 - 21:20
Donald Trump launches US air strikes against Assad regime in Syria with 59 Tomahawk missiles as military intervention begins Syrian state TV slams American 'aggression'2:53AM Syrian state TV reports: "American aggression targets Syrian military targets with a number of missiles."

Trump: air strikes in the 'vital national security interest' of USPresident Donald Trump has said the strike on Syria was in the "vital national security interest" of the United States
Trump calls on "civilised nations" to join the US in "seeking to end the slaughter and bloodshed in Syria".
He said there can be no dispute that the Assad regime used chemical weapons, referring to Mr Assad as the Syrian dictator.
He said years of attempting to change Assad's behaviour had failed.2:44AMIs Israel going to join in tonight too? Early am Syrian time. Australia is considering involvement.. unsurprisingly
Trump's first use of military forceHis administration is less than three months old, but Mr Trump has already ordered military intervention in the Middle East - an act that contrasts sharply with both his statements on the campaign trail about the "disasters" of previous US military action in the region and the relative caution with which the Obama administration approached the question of whether to attack the Assad regime.2:40AM
Runways, aircraft and fuel points targettedRunways, aircraft and fuel points at the base were the targets of the air strikes, US official reportedly state.
The air strikes happened at 3.45am local time (1.45am GMT + 1).2:35AM
Airfield used in Tuesday's chemical weapons attack struckThe Shayrat air base, near Homs in central Syria, was struck by the missiles, which were fired from two US vessels stationed in the Mediterranean.
The base is believed by US officials to have been used by Syrian jets in the chemical weapons attack on Tuesday.
It is not thought to be a large air base, and that 50-60 missiles would do serious damage.
At least 83 people died in Tuesday's attack, including 30 children. The atrocity changed Mr Trump's attitude to the Syria civil war and Bashar al-Assad.Hillary Clinton calls for U.S. to bomb Syrian air fields- Just hours before the strikes hit In her first interview since her stunning presidential election defeat by Republican rival Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton on Thursday called for the United States to bomb Syrian air fields.I think we should have been more willing to confront Assad," Clinton said in the interview, conducted by New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof. "I really believe we should have and still should take out his air fields and prevent him from being able to use them to bomb innocent people and drop sarin gas on them."
Clinton noted that she had advocated for a no-fly zone in Syria after leaving government, something that Obama opposed.
Despicable. Just despicable!! This news really disgusted and saddened me

Read from earlier today
No Fly/Safe Zone Pretext for Syria? Cause Trump was Absolutely Going To Do Safe Zones!
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No Fly/Safe Zone Pretext for Syria? Cause Trump was Absolutely Going To Do Safe Zones!

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Thu, 04/06/2017 - 15:51
January 25/17: Trump to 'absolutely do safe zones'
April 01/2017  US Access to 5, yes 5, Air Installations In Stolen Northern Syria

Ok, honestly I can't stay away from this, though, I really, really want to. My back is killing me today! The US has been advancing unjustly, illegally and immorally in Syria. As covered most recently in a series of post regarding the sudden US move to Tabqa. 

Read: Taking Raqqa: Dam, Airport Captured- US Deal with Kurds On Syrian Territory , Raqqa & Mosul To Fall in Unison- Tillerson Accelerating IS Fight  , US Attack on Raqqa Updated..US Launched "Surprise" Attack On Raqqa. Blocking SAA/Hezbollah/Russian Forces ,Double Standards and Lies: Splitting Syria for Greater Kurdistan

Israel's political class simply drools at the prospect of an attack on Syria.
Read Winds of War Blow From Israel's Borders..Israel came out immediately and called for an intervention in Syria, led by Trump. Immediately!
Read: April 04/17 Israel Urges Action Against Syria With Trump In the Lead
 No other nation state demanded immediate action on the very day of the alleged incident!
These  two parties, Israel and US, are the two nation states, most interested in employing a pretext to justify their desired actions. 

Considering the reality..... let's read a round up of news

Moreover, the first reports of the chemical attack in the province of Idlib appeared a few hours before the Syrian Air Forces conducted an airstrike on an al-Nusra Front ammunition depot on April 4, Walid Muallem noted.

"The chemical attack in Khan Shaykhun was reported at 06:00 am, while the first airstrike by the Syrian army on an ammunition depot of al-Nusra terrorists with chemical weapons inside it was carried out at 11:00 am," Muallem said.
That's a five hour discrepancy- Five hours- Five hours

Is this a crater from an airstrike?
I thought airstrikes would leave bigger holes, but, perhaps I'm mistaken?

 If I was to speculate... Let's entertain these thoughts, with a ht to hubby. The "rebels" or perhaps US/Israeli/UK Special OPS, (we know they are on the ground in Syria and had intelligence and the logistic capabilities to undertake such an op ) had mortar shells loaded with a chemical munition, knowing airstrikes were inevitable they launched their mortars in advance of and during airstrikes and then immediately cried wolf.  The airstrikes providing the ultimate distraction. These actors provided the US/Israel with the desired pretext.

Richard Haass CFR: Syrian Reaction Could Separate Trump From Obama

 President Donald Trump has a "major opportunity" to differentiate himself from former President Barack Obama by how he handles the reaction to this week's chemical bomb attack in Syria.

 Haass told MSNBC's "Morning Joe" program. "I think in Syria actually, given what he said yesterday, even if he hadn't said it, I believe there is a need to act there militarily.

"There is a whole range of options we can talk about what we might do to penalize the government. It says we are more involved there. It says you can't use a weapon of mass destruction with impunity."

 "I believe it is a necessity for the United States to say to anyone that uses a weapons of mass destruction that they will pay a price," said Haass. "It doesn't mean we go to war or switch to regime change. It means we need to find discreet military actions to possibly help the Syrian people and that will send a major message of reassurance throughout the Middle East," "The Russians are saying this is about the rebels," said Haass. "I think when the history is potentially written of this administration, this week could turn out to be pivotal." This week could be pivotal.

The American/British  media has been running with the news that Turkey said, as in verified Assad used chemical weapons- If anyone who reads here can find information that credibly bolsters this claim let me know? I've read several articles today, and I mean, close to a dozen articles and there is NO claim of a connection to Assad and this chemical weapon incident. Despite the screaming headlines when one reads through the numerous articles available it all seems like more speculation, if not total misdirection from the Anglo media

Huffington Post
“Based on the test results, evidence was detected in patients which leads one to think they were exposed to a chemical substance (sarin), the statement said. If you had evidence you would KNOW about exposure, you would not THINK about it.

DS and a different quote regarding chemical exposure
 The Turkish Health Ministry said Thursday that, "according to the results of the first analysis, there were findings suggesting that the patients were exposed to chemical substance (Sarin)," without elaborating.
"Detected evidence" - which presents as more definitive vs "findings suggesting"- not definitive.
Logic follows that a suggested finding of possible exposure to a chemical substance does not imply "Assad did it" But there is a whole lot of spinnin' going on.

A few of the additional stories I read regarding Turkey's alleged, but actually, non existent confirmation This, that and another

Tillerson is stating Assad has to go
Tillerson on Assad: "Clearly with the acts that he has taken it would seem there would be no role for him to govern the Syrian people."— ABC News (@ABC) April 6, 2017
I have not promoted the idea, ever, that Tillerson was ok with Assad staying! Despite his language while in Turkey. He was speaking in another country. Turkey.  A country that had long accepted that Assad wasn't going anywhere. A country that was dealing with the instability at their border and not looking for more of it!

It was far more important to me that Nikki Haley had stated at a CFR meeting
From this post:
“I’m not going to go back into should Assad be in or out, been there, done that, right, in terms of what the US has done,” she told the Council of Foreign Relations.But I will tell you that he is a big hindrance in trying to move forward, Iran is a big hindrance in trying to move forward.” Nikki Haley told the CFR- a globalist elitist cabal- that Assad was a big hindrance in moving forward, which equalled, in my mind- ASSAD HAS TO GO. Most everyone ignored this statement to claim Tillerson was ok with Assad staying- baloney!

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Nikkey Haley Channels Samantha Powers at UN- Threatens Go It Alone

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Wed, 04/05/2017 - 11:38
The times they aren't a changin'

I listened to the UN meeting on line and could have swore Nikkey Haley was channeling Samantha Power- it was eerie..

Nikki Haley- Children as emotional props? Check!

Mrs. Haley stood up and held photographs of child victims of a reported chemical attack Tuesday in the Idlib province.

She implored members to look at the pictures and rally around an appropriate response.

“There are times when we are compelled to do more than just talk,” Mrs. Haley said. The speech featured a sharp and direct rebuke of Russia
 “Russia cannot escape responsibility for this,” she said. “The truth is that Assad, Russia and Iran have no interest in peace,” Mrs. Haley said.

Samantha Power- Children as emotional props? Check! 

 ‘Is there no execution of a child that gets under your skin?  “To the Assad regime, Russia, and Iran, your forces and proxies are carrying out these crimes,”

Nikki Haley going full mad dog- frothing and foaming
The US has hinted at taking its own action in Syria unless the UN Security Council moves to prevent the use of chemical weapons in the war-torn country.  When the United Nations consistently fails in its duty to act collectively, there are times in the life of states that we are compelled to take our own action,” the US ambassador to the UN said.
It's obvious that the US is already taking it's "own action" regarding Syria and the region with an eye to expanding their war/profit making death machinations exponentially-

Why else would the US be needing 5 airbases of varying capabilities in stolen Syrian territory?

As I mentioned Saturday April 1st/17: 
US Access to 5, yes 5, Air Installations In Stolen Northern Syria With the capture of a strategic airfield in northern Syria this week from Islamic State, U.S.-backed forces and the American military have access to five air installations in the region, a network that can prove decisive in the fight against Islamic State, according to U.S. officials and analysts. March 26/2017:  Taking Raqqa: Dam, Airport Captured- US Deal with Kurds On Syrian Territory
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Israel Urges Action Against Syria With Trump In the Lead

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Tue, 04/04/2017 - 09:58
Alleged chemical attack in Syria- I'm not digging into it at all.  Syria, Turkey and Russia have ZERO interest in engaging in an attack like this, if it did occur at all!

Who benefits and who does not from such an attack , real or staged, occurring at this time?

1- From a PR perspective? On the world stage ahead of the Geneva meeting?

2- Which nation state in the middle east will directly benefit the most from the destruction of Syria?

3 - Which nation state in the middle east will benefit the most from creation of a Kurdish state on Syria's former northern border?

4- Which global war entity will benefit from having bases in that Kurdish state, enabling them to escalate war, targeting additional nation states?

The answers to those question tell us who would benefit the most from this incident, real or fake, and point us to the most likely perpetrators..

Israel sure comes to my mind : Grab your barf bag- You'll need it

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu “sharply condemned” the attack and called on the international community to complete the process of removing all of Syria’s chemical weapons stockpiles. “When I saw pictures of babies suffocating from a chemical attack in Syria, I was shocked and outraged. There’s no, none, no excuse whatsoever for the deliberate attacks on civilians and on children, especially with cruel and outlawed chemical weapons,” he said in English at a memorial service for president Chaim Herzog.I'm going to remind all  my readers that in 2014-  Removal of Chemical Weapons From Syria Is Completed: Chemicals Will Be Destroyed Aboard a U.S. Ship
 All the dangerous substances from Syria's chemical weapons program, including sulfur mustard and precursors of sarin, have now been removed from the country after a monthslong process, a Hague-based watchdog agency said Monday. No where is this information mentioned in today's reports.... Why?
An unconscious Syrian child is carried at a hospital in Khan Sheikhun, a rebel-held town in the northwestern Syrian Idlib province, following a suspected toxic gas attack on April 4, 2017.
 So this unconscious child has been doused with toxic gas and this guy is carrying the child close to his face without harm? Without discomfort?  Seems a bit questionable?

Bibi continues:
He also said the lack of action proved the international community was not to be trusted to come to Israel’s aid. “This terrible war underlines our main imperative– we will always defend ourselves with our own strength, against any enemy and any threat,” He also called on US President Donald Trump to lead an international effort to stop the “chemical massacre.” “Children are choking to death. The world MUST ACT against the chemical massacre in Syria. I call upon President Trump to lead this effort,” he wrote on Twitter.Bennett did not specify against whom any form of action should be taken.Children are choking to death.
The world MUST ACT against the chemical massacre in Syria.
I call upon President Trump to lead this effort.— Naftali Bennett בנט (@naftalibennett) April 4, 2017The Syrian Coalition, an opposition group based outside the country, said government planes carried out the chemical attack on Khan Sheikhoun, south of the city of Idlib, the provincial capital. The Britain-based monitor Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said the warplanes released “toxic gas” in the town but could not confirm the nature of the material. A British doctor at the scene tweeted that the chemical released was sarin gas.Sarin gas... and the guy pictured is carrying the child with no suit or mask?
My other question is how is it the guy that is carrying the child was not affected by the release of so called "sarin"?

This photo provided Tuesday, April 4, 2017 by the Syrian anti-government activist group Edlib Media Center, which has been authenticated based on its contents and other AP reporting, shows victims of a suspected chemical attack, in the town of Khan Sheikhoun, northern Idlib province, SyriaWell, well, well, isn't that authorative... "authenticated based on it's contents"

Let's talk about this authentication via one image-- The only authentication possible from this image and even this is a stretch.. is that this picture was taken in the locale claimed- But even that is tough to accept as fact, because stone/block walls surely exist in many towns and cities

The media keeps calling this a suspected attack- I suggest the whole incident is SUSPECT. Questionable. And should not be taken at face value.
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Tatar Terror in St Petersburg? A Message from the West?

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Mon, 04/03/2017 - 15:52
Following up on today's news out of St Petersburg, Russia.. Breaking from Russia: St Petersburg Metro Blast

Anyone who is going to engage in these types of attacks has to know that CCTV camera is going to pick up your image at some point in time.

Two suspects are being tracked down- This is the first image made public of one of the suspects.

 Link-  My first thoughts upon seeing the image? Tatars. Crimea. Ukraine. Turkey
There is a message in this attack and the attackers employed. Certainly, this perpetrator, was selected for a specific reason. (Actual Tatar or presenting as one..)

April 05/17 Update * The previously pictured suspect has been question and cleared-
*** My wondering about a Crimean/Tatar Connection Still Stands

Tatars of Crimea have been very loyal to the West, including asking for their assistance.  
I'm pretty sure the West has groomed Tatar terrorists as destabilizers- with their proximity to Russia they would be ideal candidates for such training. And, no this is not the work of Turkey. Not in my book. If this is a Tatar it is not to Turkey's benefit to be a party to this. 
Could be that another party is interested in stirring up trouble between Turkey and Russia-- thinking of the Ambassador being killed......

Crimean Tatar Leader Asks West to Help Ukraine Get Crimea Back

Chairman of the Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar People, Ukrainian MP Refat Chubarov calls on the West to help Ukraine get Russian-annexed Crimea back, according to an UNIAN correspondent.
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Breaking from Russia: St Petersburg Metro Blast

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Mon, 04/03/2017 - 07:56
Breaking news
Perhaps as many as 10 dead. Possibly up to 50 injured.
Several updates already- scroll down


A suspected IED explosion inside a car of the St. Petersburg Metro system has resulted in casualties among passengers. The entire transit system has been shut down as bomb squads and rescuers are responding to the emergency. The explosion happened as the train was travelling between the stations Tekhnologichesky Institut and Sennaya Ploshchad of the St. Petersburg Metro, the National Antiterrorism Committee confirmed, adding that there was an unspecified number of fatalities from the blast.
Preliminary reports indicate that some 10 people may have been killed and 20 injured in the blast, news agencies said citing sources close to the investigation.В Петербурге на станции "Технологический институт" произошёл взрыв в вагоне метро.— Лентач (@the_lentach) April 3, 2017Russian President Vladimir Putin has pledged a thorough investigation.
The causes of this event have not been determined yet, so it’s too early to talk about [possible causes]. The investigation will show. Certainly, we will consider all variants, common, criminal, first of all, of a terrorist nature,” he said.В Питере взрыв в метро— Philipp Kireev (@mynameisphiIipp) April 3, 2017All of the metro stations have been closed for passengers.
В метро Санкт-Петербурга произошел взрыв, есть пострадавшие— сторожевая башня (@cnn_russian) April 3, 2017Some of the images show several bodies lying next to the damaged car, with blood apparently spilt on a bench.
Link for updates from RT


Putin was either present or going to be in St Petersburg today:

Vladimir Putin is visiting St Petersburg, as deadly explosions are reported to have injured scores of people. The Russian president was due to meet with his Belarusian counterpart, Alexander Lukashenko, in the city when the explosions happened. It isn't clear whether Mr Putin was already in the city at the time of the blasts.
Lukashenko expressed condolences

ST. PETERSBURG, 3 April (BelTA) - Belarus President Alexander Lukashenko has expressed condolences to Russia President Vladimir Putin over the victims of an explosion in the St. Petersburg metro system, BelTA informs.
“It is awful that it happened in these moments. In such moments you always hope to avoid a worse outcome. Unfortunately, we faced such problems in Minsk,” the Belarusian head of state said.
Interesting at this time very little to nearly no coverage out of US or Canada

9:26 est - Twin Blasts?

Two Russia metro blasts kill at least 10: sourceMOSCOW // At least ten people have been killed in explosions that hit the St Petersburg metro system on Monday, according to a source in the Russian city’s emergency services.
There were blasts in two train carriages at two metro stations, St Petersburg emergency services said.
News agency Interfax cited a source as saying at least one of the blasts involved a device filled with shrapnel. The agency also said that 20 people had been injured.So same train, explosives in two carriages?

Update 9:37 am est

Not two blasts?

At least 10 people were killed in an explosion in St Peterburg’s metro system on Monday, Russian authorities said. The blast happened in a train in between two stations, a source in Russia’s emergency services said. Russian media reported earlier that there were two blasts.
Just 1 blast, confirmed according to RT's latest - which seems about right from the earliest reports and the available footage

  • 14:22 GMTA self-made explosive device has been defused at another St. Petersburg Metro station – Ploshchad Vosstaniya, Russia’s National Anti-Terrorism Committee said.
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US Access to 5, yes 5, Air Installations In Stolen Northern Syria

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Sat, 04/01/2017 - 18:47
With the capture of a strategic airfield in northern Syria this week from Islamic State, U.S.-backed forces and the American military have access to five air installations in the region, a network that can prove decisive in the fight against Islamic State, according to U.S. officials and analysts.March 26/2017:  Taking Raqqa: Dam, Airport Captured- US Deal with Kurds On Syrian Territory
Two U.S. officials told VOA that American engineers and crews were working on repairing and restoring the airfield near Tabqa dam that was taken by the U.S.-backed Syrian Democratic Forces on Sunday.

U.S. General Carlton Everhart, commander of the Air Force's Air Mobility Command, told VOA that his men had airlifted SDF forces behind IS lines to allow them to launch the attack that captured the airfield.March 22/2017: US Launched "Surprise" Attack On Raqqa. Blocking SAA/Hezbollah/Russian Forces
Everhart would not confirm or deny whether his men were repairing the Tabqa airfield, because of operational security, but said his men would be able to “do so at a moment's noticeThe capture of Tabqa airfield comes as the U.S.-led coalition has been quietly increasing its aerial capability in northern Syria to include more landing areas and bases for taking the fight to IS.Kobani to play role
U.S. military officials and SDF commanders told VOA on Friday that an airbase in Kobani will be the headquarters for U.S.-led coalition operations to retake Raqqa.

The Kobani base includes an airfield that was built from scratch by U.S. forces, they said. The base has been “up and running for a while,” one U.S. military official said, but is “still a work in progress.”

Speaking on condition of anonymity, the U.S. military official said the airbase about 110 kilometers north of Raqqa would be used in the same way as Qayyarah Airfield West in Iraq is being used for operations to retake Mosul.

Silveria, the deputy commander of U.S. Air Forces Central Command, told reporters that Air Force engineers had restored a Syrian airfield so it is capable of receiving regular shipments of ammunition and supplies. In March alone, Silveria said, the airfield was used for at least 50 landings by C-17s and more than 100 landings by C-130 military cargo planes.The Kobani airfield “is used more due to its size and because it is better equipped,” SDF commander Nasser Haj Mansour told VOA.Kobani and the newly seized airfield in Tabqa increase the capability of the U.S.-led coalition to strike from the air and resupply troops on the ground.Kobani and Tabqa plus three equals 5 accessible bases- Equals permanent occupation by the US of annexed, by the Kurds,  northern Syria
Those bases add to three others already controlled by U.S. allies in the region: Syrian Kurds built an airbase last year on farmland known as Abu Hajar airport in the Rmelan area and nearly doubled the length of the runaway to initially allow for delivery of cargo. Two other airfields in the region, one formerly used for agricultural purposes and the other a former Syrian military base, have also been expanded by Kurdish forces.
Recall my post from 2014?  Kurdistan. NATO’s new Southern Flank?
Yes, I wrote that in November 2014- It is now April 01/2017

If all goes well for NATO, Israel and the Kurds.  Turkey will be supplanted as NATO’s Southern Flank. It seems to be just a matter of time.....
Like I’ve said for years, all done in plain sight- Right before all our eyes.

Out with Turkey and in with a new NATO friendly Kurdistan. But more then just NATO friendly? Also oil rich. And very friendly with Israelfresh crow pie For all my attackers/detractors - please step up for your oversized piece of crow pie!

Brief digression...

I have to admit, it has astounded me to think of all the PKK/YPG cheerleaders, yes, they really are the same, so many of you, wacky cult like followers, marxist dingalings, cheering for a bunch of terrorists/drug dealers/ organ traffickers being armed by America to destroy nation after nation. All who wrote rubbish like the Kurds are  “the only reliable proxy force available to the U.S.”  Bullocks! You all supported the war machine- Every last one of you.  As you cheered the kurdish militas you also cheered for ethnic cleansing of tens and tens of thousands- The murders. The rapes. The displacement. The weaponized migration.The msm and the alternative media both sold the lies hook, line and sinker. The truth really was staring us all in the face. This chapter in recent history really clarified, in my mind, who or where I should look for trusted sources and who/where I should not look. While also reinforcing  the idea of trusting one’s own judgement- Employing logic- Understanding logical fallacies. And thinking for ones self- while questioning everything and everyone.  Only, after informing oneself to the best of one's own ability! It was a learning experience :)

Alternatives to Turkey's Incirlik-

As stated previously
"However, analysts note that the U.S.-led coalition's efforts to upgrade air facilities in northern Syria could eventually reduce its reliance on the Incirlik base.Any alternative to Incirlik reduces Turkish bargaining power and leverage,” said Michael Rubin, a former Pentagon official who is now an analyst with the American Enterprise Institute in Washington"August 2015: Is Turkey Heading to Partition? American Enterprise Institute
 Well, well, well. So let’s see I’ve been prognosticating the destabilization/destruction of Turkey for how long now? I had dropped hints through out the blog on many an occasion.2014: Kurd/ ISIS Symbiosis- The impending destruction of TurkeyUS/IsraelKurds........................ISIS2014: Pt.2- Kurd/ ISIS Symbiosis- The impending destruction of Turkey
 After that two post kick off  there have been numerous other posts delving deeper into and expanding a bit more on the subject of Kurd/ISIS symbiosis leading to the impending destruction of Turkey. The Kurd/ISIS symbiosis is not coincidence. That symbiosis points to a cohesion. As stated here on multiple occasions.
I took my lumps for this theory. I was derided. Attacked. Trolls visited. I seem to have been blocked from gatekeeper sites for pointing out what appeared obvious to me.


All those civilians still living in Raqqa- Most of them Arabs- Once they leave, if they can make it out- they will not be coming back.

 CENTCOM: More U.S. artillery troops may be needed in Raqqa

Gen. Joseph Votel, commander of U.S. Central Command, told Congress more U.S. troops may be needed to support the Syrian Democratic Forces' offensive to capture Raqqa.RT:

“While exploring the northern side of the SDF-controlled part of the Tabqa dam, the RT crew – which became the first international news channel to film there – managed to catch a glimpse of US soldiers embedded with the Wrath of Euphrates operation.”US soldiers were always embedded with the "wrath of Euphrates" operation.


US military delivers equipment to Kurdish forces in northern Raqqa: report “A lot of New weapons and Tanks arrived to SDF to use in Raqqa battle,” Hassan posted on Twitter today.

And Finally- Got this graphic from Scott @ Willy Loman How the Greater Kurdistan Project Works in One Simple Graphic A one word title for this simple, effective graphic "KurdIShIS"

 hatip to Scott, again
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Mossad Turned French Spies Into Double Agents after Syria Operation

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Sat, 04/01/2017 - 10:18
Now, here is something very interesting.. This news  certainly had me recalling the chemical attack in Ghouta, Syria 2013.- Conveniently timed and staged I believed then, as I do now, that whatever occurred in Ghouta, the hand of Israel was behind it. Others blamed Turkey, nonsense, Turkey and the US had already hit their rough patch- Incirlik troubles were ongoing...Israeli intelligence played a central role in the entire narrative. Israeli intelligence had allegedly captured reports of SAA doing the deed. 

August 2013- Syrian strikes sooner rather then later
Oh and guess which nation is providing ‘evidence’ about the chemical attack? Israeli intelligence seen as central to US case against Syria. Yup, Israeli ‘intelligence’ That should say it all.

While Israel would almost certainly take no direct part in a military strike, Israeli intelligence information is widely believed to have played a central role in enabling the US’s adamant conviction that Assad’s regime fired chemical weaponsConnected? Maybe? The timing is all right. The recruitment of the Syrian engineer is interesting too. As for the involvement of France? Hardly a shocker.
Le Monde reveals how Israeli espionage agency allegedly exploited a successful chemical weapons operation to get French counterparts to become sources; former head of French counterintelligence agency being questioned as suspect in case.

PARIS – An internal report written by French intelligence, parts of which were published in the daily newspaper Le Monde on Sunday, reveal efforts by the Mossad to develop relationships with French spies, “to the point of crossing the line of turning them into double agents.”

The audit report recommends investigating Bernard Squarcini, the head of the General Directorate for Internal Security until 2012, on suspicion of maintaining unauthorized and unreported ties with the Mossad’s Paris bureau chief at the time (identified in the report only by his initials, D.K.).Bernard Squarcini, director of the French Intelligence agency in 2011The background to all this was a joint operation launched by the Mossad and French counterintelligence agency in 2010 to collect intelligence about Syrian President Bashar Assad’s chemical warfare plans. The operation, code-named Ratafia, aimed to recruit a senior Syrian engineer, who was meant to come to France to do additional training in chemistry and also to help recruit other engineers.

The Mossad and French agents would hold work meetings using assumed names, as is customary. The French agents, who belonged to three different counterintelligence units, were responsible for the operation in Paris, while the Mossad agents were responsible for the plot that would enable the Syrian target to leave the country for studies and to recruit others in the French capital.

But according to the report, the Israelis exploited the operation to persuade an unknown number of French agents to also serve as intelligence sources for Israel.
One of the French agents under surveillance was seen going up to the apartment of the Mossad’s Paris chief for dinner one Friday night. Later, he reported to his superiors that he was going to Dubai on vacation, when in fact he flew with his family to Israel, where he spent time with Mossad agents without permission and without reporting the meetings afterward.

In addition, according to the report, suspicious sums of money were deposited in the bank accounts of those French agents who were involved in the Ratafia operation.

The internal report calls for further investigation to understand what damage was done to the French intelligence service.

Le Monde also published details about the Ratafia operation. The paper claimed that the Mossad succeeded in recruiting the Syrian engineer and extracted information from him about Assad’s chemical weapons arsenal.

The French daily said the operation enabled Israel to prove that the scientific cooperation between the European Union and Syria was being used to boost Assad’s chemical weapons program, which led to the cancellation of the agreement with the Syrians in 2011.

According to Le Monde, the Mossad’s interest in building relations with French spies was exposed because a different French espionage agency, responsible for information security, was keeping the agents under surveillance and photographed them with Mossad agents.

The paper said that all the Mossad agents involved were identified by their real names. The French filed a formal complaint, and two Israeli diplomats in the Israeli Embassy in Paris left their posts and returned to Israel. The Mossad chief, D.K., also returned to Israel following the French complaint.

According to the report, the two Mossad agents suspected of contacts with the French have left the service and are now private businessmen in Tel Aviv. ( probably still Mossad agents) But during 2016, the report noted, they made contact with Squarcini (the counterintelligence head they’d worked with) in Paris.

Squarcini, who is now being questioned as a suspect in the case, told investigators he met the two “totally by chance.”

A short time before the suspicions came to light, Squarcini himself launched an internal inquiry into whether the Mossad was trying to recruit French agents as sources. However, the agents he put under surveillance did not include those involved in the Ratafia operation, even though Squarcini was fully aware of the close ties that had developed between his people and the Mossad operatives, the report said. So Squaracini engaged in intentionally deceptive/distractive behaviour to take the heat off of himself- Sure looks that way!
An investigating judge appointed by the French filed an official request with Israel to question the two ex-Mossad agents who made contact with Squarcini in 2016. It isn’t clear if he received a response.

The judge is seeking to build on the internal investigative report and broaden the investigation into whether the Mossad infiltrated French intelligence under Squarcini.MEM
Why does Israel do such a thing? Does it really need to spy on its allies in Paris, given that France is already an enthusiastic supporter of its brutal and racist colonisation of occupied Palestine?

Although France, like Israel’s other European allies, makes toothless public objections to its wars and continued settlement building on stolen Palestinian land, these are understood, quite correctly, to be meaningless. While the governments of France and Britain claim in public to be against Israel’s settlements, they actually support them in practice, by continuing not only to allow goods produced in the illegal colonies to be sold in Europe, but also to seek more and upgraded economic ties with the apartheid state.

Furthermore, both countries go out of their way to undermine BDS, the Palestinian-initiated and led boycott, divestment and sanctions movement, and other forms of pro-Palestine solidarity. The British government last year initiated new regulations for universities, local councils and other public bodies which it touted in the press as a “BDS ban”. A closer look at the actual policy revealed that it was no such thing, and BDS is still very much legal.

France has also joined the Israeli-led “war” against BDS. It has pursued BDS activists aggressively, banned Palestine solidarity demonstrations and maintains an extremely laissez faire attitude towards the French branch of the Jewish Defence League (the LDJ) and its acts of terror against Palestine solidarity campaigners, especially Jewish comrades, who the LDJ regards as “traitors”.

The France Palestine Solidarity Association (AFPS) revealed earlier this month that an apparent front group for the LDJ has issued death threats against the movement, warning it off from continuing its BDS activism. The group in question posted online personal information about AFPS activists, revealing home phone numbers and addresses in a clear attempt to intimidate them, a malicious practice known as doxxing.
I'm pretty sure I have a post here on this group and their activities in France and how France let's them get away with all manner of brutal crimes- Going to have to dig that one up and relink it

The LDJ is probably the world’s most extreme, violent and organised branch of the JDL outside of occupied Palestine. In June last year, one of its leaders was allowed by the French authorities to skip the country and head to Israel in order to avoid a year in jail after a series of “extremely violent and coordinated attacks” against pro-Palestine activists in Paris in 2012.

The AFPS said that it considers the French authorities to be directly liable for this. “Their inaction is interpreted as encouragement by violent groups such as the LDJ, which the French authorities have permitted to thrive instead of disbanding them.”France 24

Israel has a long track record of spying on its Western “allies”, who have a record of spying right back on Israel. The US and Britain seemingly do not really trust their “great friend” Israel when push comes to shove, which really begs us to ask why, if that is the case, our governments spend so much energy on protecting and supporting the Zionist state.Canada's government should answer that same question- Why spend so much energy and money supporting the Zionist state?

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Tim Kelly Interviews Dr Joseph Farrell: Rotten to the Common Core

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Fri, 03/31/2017 - 12:24
Excellent Interview!

Dr. Joseph Farrell returns to Our Interesting Times to discuss Rotten to the (Common) Core: Public Schooling, Standardized Tests, and the Surveillance, a book he co-wrote with Gary Lawrence. We talk briefly about the troubled history of compulsory education in the United States and the secret agendas behind it. Later we discuss how corporations are enriching themselves under the guise of public education and the problems with standardized testing which Dr. Farrell sees as a mass data collection operation being carried out for the benefit of the corporate state.
Thanks again to Tim Kelley, always accessible via the sidebar here, for making this available to us all! Thanks also to Joseph Farrell @,for being such an interesting, well read and widely published, interviewee!

Less then 24 hours ago:
Tillerson in Turkey: Well, That Didn't Go Well!
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Tillerson in Turkey: Well, That Didn't Go Well!

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Thu, 03/30/2017 - 18:19
Clearly it didn't. The carefully couched language from Tillerson. The Turkish leadership was not as circumspect.

US and Turkey on a Collision Course- WSJ
 Yet, on several key issues of this complicated relationship between the two North Atlantic Treaty Organization allies, a head-on collision with potentially unpredictable consequences seems more and more possible.

These flashpoints include Washington’s handling of Mr. Erdogan’s Pennsylvania-based nemesis, cleric Fethullah Gulen. Even more important is the growing American support for Syrian Kurdish forces affiliated with the PKK, or Kurdistan Workers’ Party, a group designated as terrorist by Ankara and Washington alike.Wall Street Journal acknowledged PKK / YPG affiliation.

PKK and friends at Tabqa Dam, Syria“There had been enthusiasm in Ankara, and hope that a reset [with Washington] can be envisioned,” said Sinan Ulgen, a former Turkish diplomat who heads the Edam think tank in Istanbul. “Today there is an awakening that the relationship with Trump and the Trump administration may not unfold the way Ankara had initially hoped for.”

Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), the head of the House intelligence committee, put it less diplomatically in an appearance this month on Fox News. “Our relationship with Turkey is strained and I think it’s going to become even more complicated as we begin to try to get ISIS out of Iraq and Syria,” Mr. Nunes said.
Over the past two years, Ankara also seethed at the U.S. aid for PYD (YPG) in northern Syria. Instead of reversing that policy, as Ankara had expected, Washington appears to be doubling down on support for the Syrian Kurdish group. In early March, the Pentagon went as far as deploying American forces between PYD and Turkish lines near the northern Syrian town of Manbij, effectively blocking a planned offensive by Turkey and its Syrian allies. Then, in recent days, the U.S.—in its most high-profile military operation in Syria so far—airlifted the PYD and its allied Arab fighters across the Euphrates, to the strategic Tabqa Dam near Raqqa.State Gov
And I thank the foreign minister for his hospitality today.QUESTION: (In Turkish.)
SECRETARY TILLERSON: Well, those were the subjects of our conversations today, to have an exchange of views regarding the most – the best way forward to secure areas inside of Syria, create zones of stabilization, to allow the return of people to Syria and to set the stage for a longer-term political solution. I think the exchange of views was very helpful to both of us today and we will continue to work together on the way forward.
In terms of the future of Raqqa, we look forward to the liberation of Raqqa and the return of its control to local – to its local citizens, its authorities, and to putting it under local control for security so that all of the Syrians who had to flee that area can return.QUESTION: Thank you. Mr. Secretary, how do you convince the Turkish Government that partnering with Kurdish YPG rebels is essential in defeating ISIS when the government here calls that partnership an unacceptable one with a terrorist group?
And Mr. Foreign Minister, your governor has been highly critical of the United States over the arrest of Mehmet Atilla this week, saying you should have at least received advance notice of it. How has that impacted your discussions here today, and how do you respond to charges that Americans like Pastor Andrew Brunson are being arrested here to be used as a bargaining chip for the extradition of Pastor Gulen?
FOREIGN MINISTER CAVUSOLGLU: Can you repeat the first thing, that I couldn’t get the first thing that -- QUESTION: Andrew Brunson.
FOREIGN MINISTER CAVUSOGLU: Andrew Brunson and who else? QUESTION: The arrest of Andrew Brunson. Oh, Mehmet Atilla – his arrest in the United States.
QUESTION: Thank you. SECRETARY TILLERSON: Well, as I indicated in the previous response to the question, we had a very good discussion and conversation today both at the prime minister’s level and the president around an exchange of views of how best to secure areas going forward in Syria. We’re exploring a number of options and alternatives and we had a good discussion around those and there’s additional, I think, consideration on both sides yet to come.
SECRETARY TILLERSON: In response to the question regarding the notification, that is certainly the intent on the part of the consul office here, is to advise anyone when there’s been a change of status of their visa if we’re able to reach them. So that is a normal procedure.
QUESTION: Yes, good afternoon. Lesley Wroughton from Reuters. This is a question for Secretary Tillerson. The minister said that the – that you – that the United States has admitted there’s no difference between the YPG and the PKK. Do you believe that you have overcome your differences over this issue and that you can move forward concretely in Syria in the fight to retake Raqqa, given – if you’ve overcome those differences?
The other question I have is the previous administration said that Syrian President Assad must go. Nikki Haley said yesterday that the fight in Syria cannot move forward without the issue of Assad being resolved. How do you see that issue being moved forward as you move more aggressively on Raqqa?SECRETARY TILLERSON: Well, again, I think on the question of how to carry forward with the defeat of Daesh/ISIS in Syria, let there be no mistake, just so we can be clear, there is no space between Turkey and the United States in our commitment to defeat Daesh, to defeat ISIS. Not just in Syria and Iraq, but as members of the greater coalition to defeat Daesh, anywhere Daesh shows its face on planet Earth, they will be confronted by the coalition to defeat them on the battlefield, as well as in the cyberspace and in the social media space.
So in terms of the tactics that are necessary to achieve that outcome, that is why we meet. That is why we meet with our very important partners here, as well as other very important coalition members who are engaged directly in the military activities in Iraq and Syria. So there is more discussion yet to be had regarding the way forward. What we discussed today were options that are available to us. They are difficult options, let me be very frank. These are not easy decisions. They are difficult choices that have to be made. So this has been very good, the conversations today were very frank, very candid, and we will be taking those conversations away. I know the foreign minister and the president and the prime minister, they will consider all of the exchanges we had today, but ultimately, Turkey and the United States will stay together in the fight as part of the broader coalition to defeat Daesh.Tillerson regarding his talks with Turkish leadership inc. Cavusoglu.

Difficult options. Not easy decisions. Difficult choices have to be made.

 The Trump administration and Turkey appeared no closer Thursday to resolving a dispute over the Kurds' role in defeating the Islamic State group in Syria, as U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson visited America's often nettlesome NATO ally for the first time.

Although the disagreement centers on tactics for a long-planned assault on IS' self-declared capital of Raqqa, Turkey's long-term security is also at stake. For decades, Turkey has battled Kurdish militants inside its own borders. So Turkey is loath to tolerate the U.S. partnering against IS with Syrian Kurdish fighters instead of Turkey's own military and affiliated Syrian forces."Let me be very frank: These are not easy decisions," Tillerson said after meeting President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and other top Turkish officials in Ankara.

The dispute has deepened a divide between the two allies that have agreed on little in recent years.  Turkey accuses the Kurdish fighters known as the YPG of being an extension of a Kurdish insurgent force within Turkey that the U.S. also considers a terrorist organization. Turkey says the U.S. is backing one terror group to fight another, to the detriment of Turkish security, after spending years allowing Syria's civil war to spiral out of control. But the U.S. considers Syrian Kurdish fighters the most effective force at fighting IS and critical to liberating Raqqa.And despite Trump and Erdogan's talk of improving U.S.-Turkish ties, the countries continue to clash over many matters, including the fate of a Pennsylvania-based cleric that Turkey blames for a failed coup attempt last July.Washington hasn't announced which fighters will lead the Raqqa operation, (no need for an announcement) though signs point to a prominent role for the Kurdish-led group, which also includes Arab fighters. The U.S. airlifted hundreds of so-called Syrian Democratic Forces behind enemy lines in Syria last week in what officials described as a key step toward Raqqa.

Tillerson said he and Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu explored several ideas for the Raqqa operation, signaling no agreement. The countries will discuss the matter further, he said, insisting each is committed to defeating IS.

Yet Cavusoglu struck a far less sanguine tone, declaring that U.S. support for the Kurds already had damaged ties.

"It has negatively affected the Turkish people's sentiments toward the United States," he said in Turkish.Re: Gulen
Also hanging over Tillerson's trip was Turkey's demand for the U.S. to extradite Fethullah Gulen, the cleric Turkey blames for instigating last year's failed coup. Gulen denies involvement. The U.S. has said Turkey hasn't provided sufficient proof of his culpability.
Tillerson and CavusogluCavusoglu insisted Turkey had provided plenty of evidence and said U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions committed to "evaluate the documents meticulously." At a minimum, he said Turkey wants the U.S. to arrest Gulen while weighing the extradition. Tillerson didn't budge on F Gulen. Not a shocker!
Cavusoglu: "We are expecting concrete steps," he said. "We need to take mutual steps to put relations with the United States back on track."Tillerson and Turks fail to agree on next moves in fight against Islamic State in Syria Secretary of State Rex Tillerson held a day of longer-than-planned meetings with Turkish leaders in Ankara on Thursday, but the most senior Trump administration official to visit the crucial NATO ally seemed to make little headway in salvaging an increasingly troubled relationship. Washington and Ankara disagree sharply over how to wage war against Islamic State militants in Syria, with the U.S. backing Kurdish militias whom the Turks disdain as terrorists. Although Tillerson sought to put the best face possible after the day’s drawn-out talks, it was clear no agreement was reached.
He acknowledged that “difficult choices have to be made.”
Tillerson and Erdogan In their meeting, Erdogan reportedly warned Tillerson that Washington must rely on “right and legitimate” actors in the fight in Syria, code for Turkish demands that Kurdish militias be sidelined. Turkey believes that the Kurdish-dominated People’s Protection Units and Syrian Democratic Forces, backed by the U.S. in northern Syria, are merely extensions of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party, a separatist group considered by Turkey and its allies — including the U.S. — to be a terrorist organization.Turkey has said it could provide boots on the ground in an offensive on Raqqah — if the Kurdish forces are kept away.That offer was made long ago- previously covered here at the blog.
Heavy use of the Kurdish forces was part of an Obama administration plan to re-take Raqqah, which now appears to be the blueprint for what would shape up as a Trump administration offensive. Turkish officials had held out hope that President Trump would make a clean break with the Obama-era alliance with Kurdish forces.
Standing at Tillerson’s side on Thursday, Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu blasted the Obama strategy and claimed that even American officials recognized that the militias were in cahoots with Kurdish terrorists. Tillerson remained blank faced as Cavusoglu railed. And America’s top diplomat repeatedly sidestepped questions about support for the Kurdish militias. Turkey has handed over thousands of pages and dozens of boxes of evidence on Gulen, and on Thursday Cavusoglu repeated a demand that the cleric be detained pending a final decision. “We are expecting some concrete steps on [Gulen]… some temporary arrest should be made,” he said.
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Trump’s “strategy” for destroying ISIS

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Wed, 03/29/2017 - 16:47
Immoral plans rely on complicity for mutual benefit which inherently implies a willingness to be silent. Or cooperation by and for the greater good of the corporations, military industrial complex,  banks, global construction companies etc.,

In yesterday’s post, Double Standards and Lies: Splitting Syria for Greater Kurdistan, I stated:
“Actually the plan is to destroy 4 countries for Greater Kurdistan aka Israel 2.0. Donald Trump is playing right along with this plan- Israel just can’t wait for it to all fall in place. I’ll talk that up tomorrow.”So here we are, tomorrow has become today, so let’s talk.

Trump has a strategy for destroying ISIS — and it's working

Sure, if by destroying ISIS one means.....destroying nation states - creating new one out of the blood & ashes of the destroyed state-expanding human misery, exponentially, via the increased human, drug and organ trafficking operations, massive ethnic cleansing and people displacement- destruction of families and societies- destruction of the environment etc.,

Because that is what “destroying ISIS” is really all about for the US and Israel.
The White House may not yet have formally agreed on an anti-Islamic State strategy, but their incremental choices are adding up to a coherent approach that departs from the Obama approach in four important ways.floor framing on foundation- with more to come
I don’t see Trumps approach being a departure from the Obama’s. Rather, what I see is an expansion of the approach. Obama built the foundation for fighting ISIS and now the Donald is building the structure atop that foundation. It’s not a change it’s building, up. To yet another Trump Tower- Construction being Trump’s business.

The 4 ways

First, they are prioritizing speed. President Obama’s strategy envisioned a years long campaign to defeat ISIS. While that approach had the advantage of affixing responsibility for outcomes on the countries of the region and incentivized them to develop the governing capacity essential to stabilizing the territory once regained, it paid the very steep price of humanitarian disaster for Iraqis and Syrians in ISIS’s control, escalating pressure on surrounding governments taking in refugees and buffeted by violence, decimation of moderate opposition within Syria, further radicalization within Western societies, and disaffection for our efforts by publics in the region. As Tillerson said, “Our end goal in this phase is the regional elimination of ISIS through military force.” The choices President Trump has made are dramatically picking up the pace of operations. So much so that some have begun to worry we will be the victims of battlefield success, winning before we have stabilization alliances and forces in place.Second, they are committing the U.S. to a long-term involvementYup, there’s that occupation I mentioned yesterday!
By contrast, Mattis and Joint Chiefs chairman Gen. Joseph Dunford both said flat out in congressional testimony that unlike the Obama administration’s accelerated withdrawal from the region, after ISIS fight concludes, the U.S. would leave troops in Iraq for a long period of time. Signaling our commitment to outcomes rather than imposing arbitrary timelines is a significant change in approach, one providing desperately needed assurance to those who share our objectives.
Those who share ‘our objectives’ That would be Israel and the PKK

Third, they are clear about the priority being assisting the countries we want to win the wars now underway. They have unambiguously chosen a side in the fight. And while that will create qualms among many about the domestic and warfighting choices of those countries, strategy is impossible without setting priorities. Stable states working with us to stamp out terrorism is this administration’s priority for the Middle East. As Tillerson said at the coalition meeting, “When everything is a priority, nothing is a priority. We must continue to keep our focus on the most urgent matter at hand.”
Yes, the US has unambiguously chose a side. They chose terrorists in the PKK. The chose Israel. They have chosen to work against Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Turkey and Iran- which takes us to the fourth important way
Fourth, they are laying the foundation for an anti-Iran coalition once ISIS problem has been solved. The pivot to pushing back on Iran may come as an unwelcome surprise to the NATO allies and others gathered around Tillerson in Washington last week, but it is a shrewd positioning. And another way to describe shrewd positioning is good strategy.Obama was already working on destabilizing Iran. I've covered that in a number of older posts.
Trumps going to continue building on Obama’s foundation.

Destroying ISIS = Pushing back on Iran?

Brookings Institute:

6 elements to push back on Iran

On Tuesday, March 28, 2017, Martin Indyk testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on "U.S. strategy toward Iran." 1-Rigorous enforcement of the Iran nuclear deal.

2-Support for the Iraqi governmentof Haider al-Abadi - Sounds nice, but, it isn’t “Providing an effective counter-balance to Iran’s influence in Baghdad” What does that mean?

3-Promotion of a political resolution of the civil war in Yemen.- What would that include?
A political resolution would only be offered after gain battlefield advantage
“Gains on the battlefield should impact the dynamics at the negotiating table. In that regard, a successful effort to take control of the Red Sea port of Hodeida could impact the Houthi calculus and lead to greater seriousness and reasonableness on their part in the negotiations”

4- Reduce Iran’s influence in Syria.

5- Concert the capabilities of our regional allies in a regional security framework that can sustain a long-term, burden-sharing effort

6-Lay the foundations for negotiations with Iran about its ambitions and behavior in the region.

Countering Iran’s regional hegemonic ambitions is a deadly serious business. In pursuing this objective, we should be careful about making threats unless we are prepared to back them up, and we should be wary of declaring objectives that we have neither the will nor interest to achieveDestroying ISIS means laying an anti Iran foundation plus pushing back on Iran?

I opened this post by explaining exactly what it means to "destroy ISIS"
 Sure, if by destroying ISIS one means.....destroying nation states - creating news one out of the blood and ashes of the destroyed state-expanding human misery, exponentially, via the increased human, drug and organ trafficking operations, massive ethnic cleansing and people displacement- destruction of families and societies- destruction of the environment etc., And I don't think I was mistaken!!!

OH and one last thing! Assad ‘hindrance to moving forward’

 NEW YORK: US ambassador to the UN, Nikki Haley, said on Wednesday that Syria’s President Bashar Assad is a “big hindrance in trying to move forward” to find an end to the country’s six-year conflict.

“I’m not going to go back into should Assad be in or out, been there, done that, right, in terms of what the US has done,” she told the Council of Foreign Relations.But I will tell you that he is a big hindrance in trying to move forward, Iran is a big hindrance in trying to move forward.”
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Double Standards and Lies: Splitting Syria for Greater Kurdistan

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Tue, 03/28/2017 - 17:44
aka Israel 2.0- It's really becoming so much more apparent. There are nearly 500 posts here covering PKK Kurdish involvement in the remake the region agenda the US is pushing dating back to 2012.
For 5 years I've written about this plan.

Let's go back to August 2012.. A new UN ringmaster for Syria. Iraq & Turkey and how about Kurdistan? Followed up by:  Could a state for Greater Kurdistan be on the horizon??
Quoting from the August post leading to the second post- feel free to read them
 Can't help but notice the oil, gas and business industry is considering the creation of Kurdistan as a real possibility. This should tell us quite a bit!An independent Kurdistan could be a petrol giant. Just a thought For persons that have been following along on the blog for a while now, much of this will seem familiar. Because, much of it has been said here, on multiple occasions. Therefore the potential for an independent Kurdish state should not be a surprise

Pepe Escobar  Certainly, not all of the article- 

PE: "Kurds are carefully paying attention to how Ankara decided to boycott NAM - even though Turkish President Abdullah Gul was personally invited by Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and Egypt's President Mohammed Morsi proposed a Syria contact group - Turkey, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Iran - to try to solve the Syrian tragedy.

This means that Egypt - under a Muslim Brotherhood president - privileges mediation for a civil war inside a fellow Arab country, while Turkey sticks to a colour-blind regime change strategy, which would only be possible with a NATO no-fly zone (it won't happen).
So the pressing question for the Kurds becomes how to profit from Ankara's each and every move.
And the winner is... Israel" Of course in the nearly 5 years that has passed since those early posts, more information came to the surface. And, Kurdistan has taken shape before all of our eyes- Cleverly obfuscated by the appearance of "ISIS" and aided by the so called war against ISIS.. 

Trip down memory lane ended let's read the latest:
conspiracy theoristMarch 28, 2017 at 3:02 AMHey Penny
Immoral plans require silence but now more and more people see what is going on. The US decided to destroy two coutries because of Kurdistan. And this is not the end yet Actually the plan is to destroy 4 countries for Greater Kurdistan aka Israel 2.0. Donald Trump is playing right along with this plan- Israel just can’t wait for it to all fall in place. I’ll talk that up tomorrow. For today let’s look at the sputnik link from conspiracy theorist

Halaf al-Miftah, one of the leaders of Syria's ruling Baath Party, said that he does not rule out that Washington may use the upcoming operation to liberate the Syrian city of Raqqa from Daesh terrorists as a tool to split Syria.

Commenting on the matter, Halaf al-Miftah told Sputnik Arabic that "the US-led international coalition does not wage war against terrorists in Syria" and that "its goal is to change the borders in the Middle East, destroy a single state in Syria and create federal entities."

"The Americans pretend that they are fighting the terrorists, which is widely broadcast by world media; although they talk a lot about it, in reality the situation in the eastern Euphrates area is completely different," he said.

Ali al-Ahmed of the Academy of Geostrategic Problems, a think tank, who told Sputnik Arabic that all the US efforts to allegedly combat terrorism are, in fact, aimed at splitting Syria.

"The international coalition can really liberate Raqqa, but they will become occupiers if they do not coordinate their actions with the Syrian Army. But they do not need coordination, because Americans want to conduct independent policy across the world," Al-Ahmed said.The Americans fully intend to become occupiers- 

Conspiracy theorist, commenter, and Scott @ Willy Loman’s both informed me of this  next news item. I'll let Scott take this away while thanking consiracy theorist for the link also

(Greater Kurdistan Project OUT OF THE CLOSET) Washington’s Greater Middle East Project ‘Aims at Creating Kurdish State’

SC: "The Turkish Kurd says if the U.S. is going to bust off a piece of Iraq and Syria for Greater Kurdistan, well damn it, they better bust off a piece of Turkey as well. Meanwhile, other Kurds who are in communication with the U.S. in Syria and Iraq say “there is no official information on this subject” and they say that because Americans wont get behind a nation building program. If they knew that was the plan, the facade of the “heroic Kurds” would crumble in a heartbeat. They would suddenly change to the greedy, land-grabbing, power-hungry Kurds and all the reports of the Kurds’ ethnic cleansing would make a lot more sense.)" from Sputnik International
The United States has pursued a strategy that entails creating an independent Kurdish state in the Middle East, Chairman of the Kurdish National Council (ENKS) Muslim Mihemed told Sputnik Turkey, commenting on recent rumors that Washington has promised to support Kurdish independence in exchange for Raqqa’s liberation.“We believe that Washington’s Greater Middle East project is aimed at creating Kurdistan among other things. There is a possibility of the US establishing a Kurdish state in Syria and Iraq. This depends on the one who came up with this initiative, Washington. We think that if this project truly exists, it must take into account the rights of all Kurds. Otherwise, establishing a Kurdish state would not be possible,” he said.
The beginnings of Greater Kurdistan aka Israel 2.0UPDATE: March 29/2017:

I forgot to add this yesterday, but, it needs to be in this post.
Raqqa to "join" Greater Kurdistan

Saleh Muslim lies, of course. Claiming they'll vote to be included because you're supposed to believe these are such swell guys- Here's what will happen. The Arabs, inc Christians Arabs, will be ethnically cleansed. Kurds will then vote to join Greater Kurdistan. The US will claim it was all democratically done, the Kurds voted, ignoring the displacement and the dead in the hundreds of thousands- just like it never happened. The kurd cult here in the west will cheer for this wonderful new communistic cult terror state because well, they're gullible, true believers. Sadly.

"Saleh Muslim, the co-chair of the Syrian Kurdish PYD party, said it would be up to the people of Raqqa to decide their future once the city is freed from Islamic State, but he thinks the city will join the "democratic federal" system. "We expect (this) because our project is for all Syria ... and Raqqa can be part of it," Muslim said in a telephone interview. "Our only concern is that the people of Raqqa are the ones who take the decision on everything." Muslim added that Raqqa needed to be in "friendly hands" otherwise it would form a "danger to all Syria, particularly northern Syria, the federal system of northern Syria, the areas of self administration". Raqqa needs to be in Kurdish hands, otherwise, all those pesky Arabs and Christians would form a danger particularly to the  Kurdish appropriated/ annexed territory. Oh and a danger to Israel. Israel is very happy with a middle east with way less Arabs and Christians
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Greece/Cyprus Provocation as Pretext to Renounce Turkey ?

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Mon, 03/27/2017 - 18:42
 Yes, I’m absolutely entertaining the idea of Greece as provocateur to justify some type of NATO action against Turkey- Greece was heavily involved in the US backed coup- that failed. I’ve no doubt that, indeed, the “Keystone” Coup (think Gulen’s home state) was a US plan to overthrow the government of Turkey.

If at first you don’t succeed, try, try again? The US wanted Turkey demoralized and subservient so they could get their Kurdistan aka Israel 2.0 on without any messy inconveniences- Like Operation Euphrates Shield. But the coup failed. And Operation Euphrates shield impeded the move on Raqqa.

As of last week the US and their Kurd terror proxies made the move.

And the move is just going full steam ahead! With ISIS doing it's usual fade away routine. Trump’s point man,  Tillerson is headed to Turkey on March 30th. I expect he’s going to talk tough. Saw some early reporting that suggests this will be the case. Link
“Meanwhile, US sources said on Friday that the US Secretary of State’s visit to Ankara would be decisive with regards to the US-led campaign to regain the city of Raqqa” Visit to Ankara would be decisive with regards to the US led campaign to annex Raqqa. Crucial, critical and conclusive, just as I expect. Tillerson is going to give Turkey their options. None of them will be to Turkey’s liking. From there Tillerson heads to NATO HQ in Brussels.

The Turkish referendum is April 16. The West is Unhinged over the Turkish Referendum. The perception management has been applied profusely- The usual anti war, anti imperial crowd, including in the alternative media is clamouring for Turkish blood to be spilled- It’s quite sickening to observe.
A thoughtful commenter named  green valleyMarch 25, 2017 at 9:55 PM

Turkey is the hardest part of the operation. The USA can't openly attack NATO's member. Something big must happen
 Indeed. War must be sold with a lie. Always. That said the US doesn’t have time for a colour revolution. It’s doubtful another coup will fly.

 So here is where we get to Greece, possibly involving Cyprus, acting as provocateur, creating some type of pretext to justify an action against Turkey.  Keeping in mind that Turkey has no reason to provoke Greece. Turkey wants ideal conditions for their referendum, so it’s absurd to think they would “provoke” Greece.  However, Greece has incentive aplenty to provoke Turkey. Doing NATO’s bidding is a plus for Greece. Greece is NATO’s big spending lackey.  Greece has already acted very provocatively towards Turkey. Undoubtedly with a whole lot of support from Brussels. Unlike Turkey, Greece is beholden large to the banksters & the EU.

1-Greece was involved with the coup attempt.

2- Greece would not turn over the coup participants. As if their involvement in the attempted overthrow wasn’t bad enough.. Greece Refuses Turkey's Extradition Request of Coup Plotters

3- Greece has been extremely provocative regarding Cyprus..
Greek Minister Responsible for Derailing Cyprus Talks: Obvious Provocation!

4- Greece & Turkey joined NATO at the same time- So a Greek Provocation would be very symbolic of an ultimate betrayal. Think Cain & Abel. Think- As it begins so shall it end.

Considering all the provocations already undertaken by NATO’s gofer, Greece, it’s safe to suggest,  that Greece could and would provoke Turkey, yet again! In some way that would portray NATO’s betrayal of Turkey as necessary for the greater good. You know, the USA as the global social justice warrior.
And isn't the US the ultimate social justice warrior?! 

Thinking about all that is going on present day, while pondering possibilities, it seems very sensible to consider the possibility that Greece will provoke Turkey- An article from the Guardian certainly confirmed my suspicions: Tensions flare as Greece tells Turkey it is ready to answer any provocation
“The Greek armed forces are ready to answer any provocation,” Panos Kammenos declared at a military parade marking the 196th anniversary of Greece’s war of liberation against Ottoman Turkish rule. “We are ready because that is how we defend peace.”Defend Peace? Sure.
“I fear the period from now until the referendum in Turkey, as well as the effort to create a climate of fanaticism within Turkish society,” he told CNN Greece.A climate of fanaticism? How about a climate of national pride? My oh my the negative spin.
Turkey’s EU negotiations have long been hindered by Cyprus, and talks aimed at reuniting its estranged Greek and Turkish communities are at a critical juncture but have stalled and are unlikely to move until after the referendum. “The concern on the Greek side is not so much of an intentional incident but of an accident that then spirals out of control,” Dr Thanos Dokos, director of the Eliamep thinktank, told the Guardian. “The whole nationalist mood in Turkey would make such a situation difficult to defuse.” An accident (false flag) that spirals out of control, is what concerns Greece. To which I respond- Just make sure there are no "accidents".
 “Greece has expressed its concerns to the US,” said Dokos. “But when we don’t have a fully functional national security apparatus in Washington which is usually the firefighter in such situations, when Nato’s influence is limited and the EU’s even less, the big question really is who could or would manage such a crisis if it were to happen.”Hmmmmmm..... That sounds like some convenient excuse making
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