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and it's very important that they continue not to know it ... as you know!

Ashalee, I nebbur hurd nobunny saydat!

But if it's true ... it opens up all sorts of other questings:

What happened to all the people who died of HIV?
Was that a hoax?
Or were they killed by something else?

Any ideas?

... what would you have said next?

[take your time on this ; it's all new to me and probably to a lot of others ; and it seems kind of important!]

Thanks for all this, James. It opens up cans of worms I've never looked at.

As I "understand" it, the idea -- "vaccine theory", so to speak -- is that by deliberately introducing a small quantity of some pathogen into your body, a vaccine stimulates your immune system to create antibodies which can neutralize that pathogen -- and not only to create these antibodies, but to learn how to create them -- so if/when you accidentally run into a large quantity of the same pathogen, your immune system will have learned how make the antibodies you need, and therefore you will be immune from the pathogen in question.

Here's my question: Do you know of any reliable study that either confirms or refutes this idea?

I am just going to drop this into the conversation. It is some info I gathered for a friend on Face Book when she expressed that she was grateful for the vaccines that are believed to have eradicated smallpox and polio.

Barb,
There were lots of problems with the initial polio vaccines if you know the history. Countless children were infected with polio in the first rollout of the live vaccine. The second rollout with a weakened virus that was considered a success at eradicating polio was found to have been tainted with SV40, a monkey virus they now acknowledge causes cancer in humans. They knew it was contaminated but continued to administer it anyways.

"In 1960, it was discovered that Simian Virus 40 (SV40) contaminated up to 30% of the poliovirus vaccines in the US. This contamination arose because the vaccines were produced in monkey kidney cell cultures harboring SV40 between 1955 and 1963. During this period, approximately 90% of children and 60% of adults in the USA were inoculated for polio and possibly exposed to SV40." https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15322523/ .

"The presence of SV40 in monkey cell cultures used in the preparation of the polio vaccine from 1955 through 1961 is well documented. Investigations have consistently demonstrated the oncogenic behavior of SV40 in animal models. Early epidemiologic studies were inadequate in demonstrating an increase in cancer incidence associated with contaminated vaccine. Recently, investigators have provided persuasive evidence that SV40 is present in human ependymomas, choroid plexus tumors, bone tumors, and mesotheliomas, however, the etiologic role of the virus in tumorigenesis has not been established." https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10472327/

I read this fascinating book a few years back and it goes into some detail about the history of polio vaccinations. [I just re read it a couple of weeks ago and it is still fascinating.] It is a book about the murder of Dr. Mary Sherman. 'Doctor Mary’s Monkey: How the unsolved murder of a doctor, a secret laboratory in New Orleans and cancer-causing monkey viruses are linked to Lee Harvey Oswald, the JFK assassination and emerging global epidemics'. Below is a link to the author's home page where you can order the book (it's also available on Amazon) and listen to interviews with the author and tons of other pertinent links. I can never look at vaccines the same after having read this book. All is not what it seems.

Quotes from the book:

**"Understanding the death of this one woman unravels much of our nation’s secret history. It illuminates the darkness. It connects great medical disasters of our time to important political events of the day. It unveils the contamination of hundreds of millions of doses of the polio vaccine with dozens of monkey viruses. It spotlights the epidemic of soft tissue cancers that swept our country. And it exposes dangerous secret experiments which used radiation to mutate cancer-causing monkey viruses. It connects leaders of American medicine to the accused assassin of the President of the United States. This one murder helps us understand why we have been lied to with such conviction for so many years — and why those lies are likely to continue."

**"Today, however, there is abundant evidence of a variety of simian viruses found in the human blood supply. Of particular concern is the DNA from SV-40 repeatedly extracted from several types of tumors, including brain, bone, and previously-rare chest cancers. In the words of former FDA virologist John Martin, M.D., Ph.D., “ SV-40 infection is now widespread within the human population almost certainly as a result of the polio vaccine.”

**"Consider this 1997 quote from the U.S. Government’s own Journal of the National Cancer Institute: “In the 1950s, SV-40 was one of several dozen viruses that contaminated the original Salk and Sabin polio vaccines administered to millions of school children in the United States and Europe.” The vaccine contaminated with SV-40 was injected into trusting children until 1963. Forty-one years later, an in-depth investigation by journalists Debbie Bookchin and Jim Schumacher finally documented this same public health disaster in the detail which it deserves, including interviews with many of the scientists involved. The 2004 title speaks for itself, The Virus and the Vaccine: The True Story of a Cancer Causing Monkey Virus, Contaminated Polio Vaccine, and the Millions of Americans Exposed.

**"SIV is the Simian Immunodeficiency Virus, one of several monkey viruses known to have contaminated the polio vaccine. The more carcinogenic SV-40 has received most of the press. SIV, a single-strand RNA retrovirus, is considerably smaller than SV-40 (a double-strand DNA virus). The technology of the 1950s was not able to filter SIV from the viral extracts. Further, researchers of the day did not consider retroviruses to be dangerous, so they basically ignored them. AIDS has taught us how dangerous retroviruses can be. If “the project” in New Orleans was intentionally exposing SV-40 to radiation, they may have exposed SIV to radiation at the same time. Simply stated, HIV-1 is a mutated form of SIV."

**"...I will not draw any conclusions concerning a direct relationship between this underground medical laboratory and the origin of the AIDS epidemic. We may never know. And if we did know, what could we change? In the meantime, we are still free to ask the obvious question: Was this bizarre new epidemic [of AIDS] caused by a mutated monkey virus engendered during the more than forty years of intensive scientific research, medical experimentation, and genetic manipulation of simian viruses?"

**"When the debate quietly raged over the contamination of the polio vaccine with monkey viruses, it focused on one virus, SV-40, a DNA virus that produced pathogenic results fairly quickly. NCI eventually claimed that SV-40 was not a significant threat to humans, and declared the debate over. But the reason that SV-40 was named “ SV-40” was to remind us that there were 39 other monkey viruses already identified. What about all the other monkey viruses in the polio vaccine, especially the slow acting retroviruses which can take decades to produce disease. These retroviruses baffled the scientists of the 1960s, but today we understand how they breed by inserting themselves into the genetic material of other cells. In 1994 Dr. Michael McGrath, McGrath, a medical researcher from San Francisco, demonstrated that retroviruses can cause cancer directly, by invading a cell’s genetic material and triggering the cancer process, rather than only causing cancer indirectly through the suppression of the immune system, as previously believed; Associated Press, “ AIDS virus can cause cancer,” St. Petersburg Times, April 8, 1994, p. 8A.

Haslam, Edward T.; Jim Marrs. Dr. Mary's Monkey: How the Unsolved Murder of a Doctor, a Secret Laboratory in New Orleans and Cancer-Causing Monkey Viruses are Linked to Lee Harvey Oswald, ... Assassination and Emerging Global Epidemics . Trine Day. Kindle Edition.

https://www.doctormarysmonkey.com/

If you'll forgive me for throwing in a personal note: The night before last, I woke up in the middle of the night with intense pain in my legs. My knees were half-bent, and I couldn't bend them any more and I couldn't straighten them either. Eventually I figured out what to do next, and after about 15 minutes of stretching, I could get out of bed and limp around a bit. But it felt like hours.

And in those "hours", I seriously entertained a large number of stupid ideas. "I might be this way forever! What if I can never walk again? How am I ever gonna get to the bathroom? Who's gonna look after me if I can't move freely? Who's gonna look after my family if I can't work? We are SO SCREWED!" and so on.

After I had stretched enough, I was able to walk again, and the crisis has certainly passed, and the pain is gradually receding ... but there was a lesson in all this, and I have not managed to forget it yet (even though it's been almost 36 hours).

If you're an unscrupulous character, and you're trying to find people who are likely to do something very stupid, and you start with people who have serious medical problems, you'll never have to look anywhere else, because these people are hurting and they're scared, and Pain + Fear = Stupidity.

I'm not worried about spilling these beans here, because unscrupulous characters already know this, and we don't have any unscrupulous readers anyway. On the other hand, it is something that scrupulous characters may not have considered, and maybe they should.

There is much profit in sickness. More sickness, more drugs. There is little to no profit in health. The Health Industry is an oxymoron.

The hospital in my local town was quite small 30 years ago. Street parking proved to be adequate. A new hospital was built on the edge of town and added to, and added to, and now is relatively huge. The car park takes up acres and is always close to capacity. The population of the town and surrounding district has hardly grown in that time. Whether it is 'healthy' or not, this industry is booming.

Perhaps a few facts that most people are not aware of and that you will never hear in the corporate media will go a long way in accounting for the above mentioned boom. The boom, of course, is undeniable testimony to the 'health industry's' abject failure.

Pharmaceutical companies have to supply 3 double blind studies that show statistical benefit when they apply for approval for a new drug. Drug companies can, for instance, carry out 100 trials of which 97 fail and 3 show a benefit. They can supply those 3 and keep quiet about the overwhelming failure rate and get approval. This often happens.

The double blind studies are supposed to measure the proposed new drug against a placebo which is supposed to be an inert substance with no active ingredients. But this doesn't happen. Very often the placebo with have active ingredients which are also in the new drug. So if this active ingredient causes adverse effects, this is shielded from view and discounted because the drug fared no worse than the placebo therefore all is good. But it's not!

Big Pharma companies often 'out source' their testing to private companies. These companies know what Big Pharma wants, of course, and repeat business is dependent on keeping the customer happy. So guess what happens? Lots of fraud takes place. But Big Pharma can keep itself at arms length from it.

On top of this, the FDA is dependent on the pharmaceutical companies it is supposed to be regulating for half of its funding. Whoever pays the piper, calls the tune.

It is common for high placed officials in the FDA to leave and secure a very well paid job with one of the pharma co's they were previously supervising. This is called 'delayed gratification'.

Vaccines are not considered “medicines” by the FDA. Therefore they do not have to comply with the 3 double blind studies criteria showing statistical benefit. So they don't.

The trials that they do run (or their contractors run) usually have as a placebo the same vaccine or last year's vaccine without the dead or live virus but with all the nasty preservatives (mercury and aluminium) and the adjutants which cause brain inflammation and multiple adverse side effects.

Again, because the trial candidates in both camps suffer the adverse effects, the finding states that it can't be the vaccine because the placebo group had the same rate of toxic reactions. The FDA does not protest because of the above monetary considerations.

A common trick to skew the results is that trial candidates are chosen for their vibrant health to start with. If any participants develop adverse reaction within the first weeks, as often happens, they are eliminated from the trial and the trial starts from that moment onwards.

Many drugs have been withdrawn from use after causing deaths and injuries. It is worth noting that all these dangerous drugs were previously approved as being “safe and effective” by the FDA.

The drug companies are protected by law from any responsibility for their vaccines. They cannot be sued for death or injury. And there's no shortage of deaths and injuries.

Official Office for National Statistics data has inadvertently revealed that 30,305 people have died within twenty-one days of having a Covid-19 vaccine in England during the first 6 months of 2021

There is a process in the United States whereby the injured person can go to a special court of law that deals solely with vaccine injuries to get compensation. The process is deliberately convoluted and difficult and any compensation paid comes out of public funds and not from the offending drug company.

No vaccine has ever been proved to be effective in preventing an epidemic or in overcoming an epidemic. The stories of vaccines eradicating polio and small pox are just that; stories. The facts do not support them. These stories are 'urban legends'. And demonstrably so. (See previous comment)

To continue on from my comments on AIDS-HIV, the HIV virus was detected using a PCR test. Yes the same mis-applied PCR technology that is used to find the elusive Verona Cyrus (code!).

Finding antibodies used to mean that the asymptomatic person has overcome an infection (he may not have developed symptoms) and is now immune probably for life.

AIDS turned this medical maxim upside down. Now the presence of antibodies means you are sick or soon will be (of course, you will be if you take the medication!). I remember hearing this in the 80's and thinking this is back-to-front (they are using the same illogic with today's plague).

Another amazing thing was that no one remarked on this reversal. Not doctors or 'health officials' or government politicians. At least, not in the media. This collusion of silence was a taste of what was to come.

The PCR test was invented by Kari Mullis and he won a Nobel Prize for it. Unfortunately for the medical establishment, he very publicly stated that the PCR test was not a diagnostic tool; that it should never be used as one and it could not tell the difference between a live infection and a dead or past one. It was not designed to detect infections and could not.

It was designed to detect minute particles of genetic material. “Researchers” are detecting genetic material and presuming this material is part of a virus. They use computer programs to 'stitch together' the genomes of various genetic particles and, presto, we have a virus. And a deadly one that will wipe out humanity any day now! If you believe the hype – every time it has been repeated over the last few decades.

But even if this virus existed as the computers propose it to, no causal link has been established between this proposed virus and the 'disease de jour' the medicos claim to have on their hands.

Back to the PCR test, it was extremely sensitive (hence why it was praised and the Nobel Prize for it) because it could amplify samples many times but once it got to 26 magnification cycles its accuracy tapered off and by 35 cycles it was useless as anything that ever existed in the cosmos could be found in the sample via this test – if you were to believe the results.

In testing for the current cough-de-jour, some tests are run at up to 45 cycles. The test is simply an excuse to say we have a case here. A case is a (false) positive test result; not an infection never mind a sick person.

Kari Mullis is also on record calling out Tony Fauci as a moron who knows nothing of science!

Kari Mullis died suddenly while in apparently good health in 2019.

Thanks, James. I've started chewing on the links you provided but I haven't swallowed them yet so I can't say too much about them (maybe later, though).

But in response to your vicious taunt:

Please feel free to ask more questions in the meantime

I would like to know what you make of the various and contradictory reports about bats in China, the Wuhan wet-market, Tony Fauci and his connection with alleged (or proven) surreptitious funding of gain-of-function research, and so on.

I'm wondering: Is this all noise? Or is there something to it? And if there's something to it, does it have anything to do with the C-word V-word, or not?

Of course it has never crossed my mind that all the China-related "news" might be propaganda, set up by somebody who's trying to create a pretext for a new war.

And I would be shocked if somebody somewhere was trying to develop bio-weapons on the sly.

So all this is entirely unimaginable, but then again: if a Chinese bat-virus was been weaponized and escaped, then surely it must exist, which you say it doesn't, so ... that's my next question:

Is this all noise? Or is there information in it that we need to take seriously?

Thanks very much for this, James. Tons o' stuff here. It'll take a while to absorb it all. But ...

I'm definitely starting to get the vague idea that perhaps something dodgy might be going on and maybe we might not know all about it yet. It kinda seems almost as if somebody might be trying to hide something, while pointing at something else. And not just one somebody, but multiple somebodies.

I know that if multiple somebodies were involved, that would make it a conspiracy, and that would make my "vague idea" a crazy conspiracy theory!

But that's no problem, because I'm already crazy ... so I'm not having any trouble imagining that my idea might be a glimpse of something that's actually there.

And even though I can't be sure of that, because I can't see it clearly enough, I can see quite clearly that the arguments being advanced to "refute" my idea are BS. And a lot of them are obvious BS.

In the major media, and even in the minor controlled-opposition media, people who don't believe obvious BS are called "gullible". Isn't that rich? We don't believe transparent lies because we're "gullible"!! It's too rich for words!

And I'd rather be rich than gullible, but there's a lot of obvious BS around and I don't believe as much of it as I once did, so that makes me a "gullible crazy conspiracy theorist!"

I know there are some blogs which exclude "gullible crazy conspiracy theorists", and in fact I used to volunteer at one of them. That didn't turn out brilliant, I would say.

But I'm pretty sure this isn't one of those blogs. So I might just hang around for a while, if you'll have me

Thanks very much for the welcome. May I present further credentials?

Many years ago, in a comment thread lost to the mists of time, I wrote:

My wife just yelled, "YOUR'E CRAZY"

Some of my regular readers (yes, I once had multiple regular readers) made insightful comments such as

Sorry, Winter. Tell her we knew that a long time ago.

I absorbed all the punishment my friends could dish out without saying another word about it. But now, after all this time, I can reveal the real reason why she said that.

It had nothing to do with my political opinions, or my blogging, or the way I growl at my computer and pound on the keys when things are not going well (as if that could possibly help!) ... No! It was because she heard my trying to play Scott Joplin's The Entertainer on a guitar.

Mad as a bag o' snakes if you want the unvaccinated truth. Could get comfy here!