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Russia,Iran,Turkey: Guarantors of the Moscow Declaration

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Tue, 12/20/2016 - 18:40
“Iran, Russia and Turkey are ready to facilitate the drafting of an agreement, which is already being negotiated, between the Syrian government and the opposition, and to become its guarantors,“ the declaration read.Guarantor? Interesting word.

Iran, Turkey and Russia have agreed to be the Guarantors of an agreement being made between the Syrian government &opposition- I suppose we’ll know soon enough what that agreement entails

Compiled from multiple articles

The Star
 Trilateral cooperation between Russia, Iran, and Turkey is the most effective way to settle the Syrian crisis, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said, adding that Moscow, Teheran, and Ankara have drafted a document aiming to resolve the crisis.Russia’s foreign minister held a meeting in Moscow with his counterparts, Mevlüt Çavusoglu of Turkey and Mohammad Javad Zarif of Iran, in Moscow on Tuesday.

The most effective format is the one that you are witnessing today. This is not an attempt to cast a shadow on the attempts of our partners; this is just statement of a fact,” Lavrov said at a briefing after the meeting.By comparison, Lavrov mentioned that other formats for settling the Syrian crisis, such as the International Syria Support Group (ISSG), had called for a number of actions to be taken simultaneously, including ceasing hostilities, allowing passage of humanitarian aid, and initiating a political process that involves all parties to the Syrian conflict. “Unfortunately, the group failed to play its role to force all parties to fulfill all obligations. Our colleagues tried to show the activity in May [2016]…, but then the activity disappeared,” Lavrov pointed out, while noting that “the Russia-Iran-Turkey ‘troika’ has proven with actual deeds that it is in demand.”“Russia, Iran, and Turkey have been recently taking coordinated steps that have allowed for the safe evacuation of the majority of the civilian population from eastern Aleppo with support of the International Committee of the Red Cross and the World Health Organization,” Lavrov said.He added that the evacuation will soon be complete – “a matter of one-two days maximum.”Russia’s foreign minister said that Moscow, Teheran, and Ankara have come up with a document that aims to improve the situation in war-torn Syria.

These measures are intended to help bring about “the revival of the political process to end the Syrian conflict,” he said.“The document confirms respect for the sovereignty, independence, and territorial integrity of Syria,” Lavrov said.The ceasefire should be implemented in all parts of Syria, Lavrov’s Turkish counterpart, Mevlüt Çavusoglu, said at the conference.“Today we are talking about the ceasefire, and the ceasefire should be in all Syria,” he said, adding this shouldn’t apply to attacks on terrorist groups such as Islamic State or Al-Nusra Front (now rebranded as Jabhat Fateh al-Sham).Iran’s Foreign Minister Zarif said that the three countries should join forces in fighting Islamic State, Al-Nusra Front, and other groups affiliated with them.“We should also separate these groups from other formations in Syria. This is the first, very important and necessary step in creating the conditions for a permanent ceasefire in Syria,” he said.

The United States was notably absent from the meeting, although Lavrov had a phone call with U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry later Tuesday, informing him about the results of the trilateral talks.Independent
Russia, Iran and Turkey have agreed that the priority in Syria is to fight Isis and terrorism rather than remove the government of Bashar al-Assad, Mr Lavrov said, which marks a change in Turkey’s previous stance.

The troika set out the terms that should be followed for opening access to humanitarian aid and an extended ceasefire, before restarting the peace process in a document called “The Moscow Declaration”. Additional Reading...
http://thepeninsulaqatar.com/article/20/12/2016/Turkey,-Iran,-Russia-ready-to-be-guarantors-in-Syria

http://en.trend.az/iran/politics/2700564.html

http://en.mehrnews.com/photo/122158/Iran-Russia-Turkey-trilateral-meeting From Earlier Today:
Pepe E: Who Profits From Turkey's Sarajevo Moment? CyberHeist Via SWIFT Turkey's Akbank
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Was The Russian Ambassador Assassination a Hoax?

bigdanblogger - Tue, 12/20/2016 - 16:32


shouted “Allahu Akbar” (#1 sign of a false flag) and fired at least eight shots, according to an AP photographer in the audience. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/russian-ambassador-to-turkey-andrey-karlov-shot-ankara/
The ambassador was several minutes into a speech at an embassy-sponsored photo exhibition in the capital when the attack occurred
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(So, if you just now realized that the entire mainstream media publishes nothing but fake news, you might want to wake up and realize something even bigger: They’ve been faking the news for decades.
What really happened in Oklahoma City? 9/11? JFK assassination? The media lied to you about elements of all these historic events.)


I saw the photos the alleged AP photographer shot, and said: "This is the bravest photographer I've ever seen." Upon further review, it may be the dead giveaway that the etire event was a planed hit, and the photographer knew he wasn't going to get shot, nor was the agent that shot the diplomat. The perpetrator, who was wearing a suit and a tie, shouted ‘Allahu Akbar’ (‘God is great’ in Arabic) during the attack, AP reports, citing their own photographer. The attacker also said several words in Russian, according to the news agency, and damaged several of the photos at the expo.Turkish NTV broadcaster says that three other people were also injured in the attack on the ambassador. Hurriyet newspaper, citing their own reporter, says that the perpetrator also fired warning shots in the air before targeting Karlov.

The gunman got away, if you can imagine that. They then gunned down a patsy, probably a Kurd, it’s Mossad false flag 101. They have to get better at this, they are being all too predictable. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/12/19/turkish-intel-shoots-russian-ambassador-in-ankara-in-erdogan-false-flag-ploy/
Turkish Intel Shoots Russian Ambassador in Ankara, in Erdogan False Flag Ploy
Editor’s note: Our sources indicate that this attack against the Russian ambasador to Turkey was perpetrated at the orders of Israel’s Netanyahu and done with full cooperation of Turkish authorities, heating up things to push Trump into a war footing at day one. Timed to coincide with the UNSC vote...
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“Make no mistake, this was a Mossad hit, the killer stood over the fallen ambassador and pumped 8 shots into his body.”
So . . . at least nine bullets in his body, fired point-blank, yet he died later in hospital. “You couldn’t make it up!”
And where’s the blood from the nine bullet holes? Since his heart was still beating the floor should have been awash with blood.
The whole thing has the stench of a psy-op.



Got False Flag? http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-20/berlin-police-says-it-arrested-wrong-man-truck-attacker-armed-still-large
Berlin Police Says It Arrested "The Wrong Man": Truck Attacker Is "Armed, Still At Large" | Zero Hedge
The Pakistani suspect arrested after yesterday's truck attack in Berlin reportedly had no involvement in the crime. The actual perpetrator is "armed and still at large" according to German police. "We have the wrong man," Die Welt cited a police official who added "the actual perpetrator is still at...
zerohedge.com

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-20/turkish-pro-government-media-blames-us-cia-assassination-russian-ambassador
Turkish Pro-Government Media Blames US, CIA For Assassination Of Russian Ambassador | Zero Hedge
The pro-government Yeni Safak newspaper announced the murder of the ambassador with a headline saying, “Great sabotage.” The daily said “The pro-FETÖ assassins of the CIA have been mobilized” in order to ruin Turkish-Russian relations. “It is stated that the US has begun open attacks [against Turkey...
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Note in the photos of the allegedly murdered diplomat - shot nine times- alleged to have died at the hospital. This implies his heart was beating as he lay on the floor with nine holes through him. ALL of his blood would have covered the floor, no? See all the photos from every angle, and note this shooter let the photographer work the room from every angle. Have any of the alleged cowering attendees been interviewed about the allegedly brave photographer? How was there a video camera being hand operated by another individual simultaneously from a high angle, as eeen in online videos? Two photographer rolling and unafrid of being shot? Not a chance. No Blood???



BREAKING: RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR GUNNED DOWN HOAX!!!

The timing of the truck driving through the crowd was pre-planned to take the hoax shooting out of the headlines as a fall back once they realized the fake blood didn't work.

Why is each view cropped to avoid showing the absence of blood? http://www.aol.com/article/news/2016/12/20/theory-claims-russian-ambassador-assassination-was-fake/21631763/

After Diplomat's Killing, Russia Doubles Down On Ties With Turkey









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Pepe E: Who Profits From Turkey's Sarajevo Moment? CyberHeist Via SWIFT Turkey's Akbank

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Tue, 12/20/2016 - 11:56
As of right now..I would say this is a Gulen/CIA cooperative assassination.Below is a comment I left at Saker's- Personally speaking his analysis was, in my opinion, disappointing-  Perhaps I expected too much?
You can read it for yourself  here Make up your own mind. *After my comment I will be relinking a news article I had bookmarked but hadn't used.Though it is in the comment section of the previous post- **After that news article there will be an oped from Pepe Escobar Penny on December 20, 2016  ·  at 12:53 pm UTC Saker: I wondered myself about where the ambassador’s security was?
However as I listened yesterday to RT’s coverage as this unfolded, one man stated, there is no such thing as 100 percent security Much the same as life.
Saker ‘Some will correctly say that the fall of Aleppo is a humiliating defeat for Turkey and Erdogan, and I agree”
Then you would be 100 percent mistaken. Aleppos liberation (interesting that you use ‘fall’?) came about through a deal between Turkey and Russia- There was mainstream media coverage on this- albeit very little of it- except at my blog apparently?
Turkey intentionally encouraged ‘discontent’ in the ranks- No supplies etc-
This deal between Russia and Turkey was first reported on in October of this year
With subsequent follow ups
http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.ca/2016/12/russia-and-turkey-pushed-west-out-of.html
The US was less then happy about Russia and Turkey’s cooperation. As was Israel.
Especially galling was the tripartite meeting today between Russia, Turkey and Iran to settle up the Syrian issue.
Putin “This murder is clearly a provocation aimed at undermining the improvement and normalization of Russian-Turkish relations, as well as undermining the peace process in Syria promoted by Russia, Turkey, Iran and other countries interested in settling the conflict in Syria”
Lone Wolf- no way
Erdogan- no way
Saker “Putin will do nothing harsh regardless of who is behind this murder”
Nothing harsh, just retribution on the QT
Putin “The killers will feel it”
I lean towards CIA/Gulen-
Infiltration of the police forces – well known
CIA/Gulen connection- well known
Second choice Grey Wolves/NATO
After all it was a Grey Wolf that killed an inconvenient PopeI should have said attempted to kill an inconvenient Pope- that attempt failed to end the Pope's life.

 11 days before the assassination Turkey's Akbanks was hacked via the SWIFT system

*Turkey's Akbank faces $4 million hit from attempted cyber heist

Hackers targeted Turkey's Akbank via the SWIFT global money transfer system in an attack which the bank said had not compromised customer data but would cost it up to $4 million. $81 million heist from the Bangladesh central bank.Banks globally face a growing threat from cyber attacks, more of which have succeeded since February's  It was not immediately clear how much, if any, money had been stolen from Akbank, Turkey's third-largest listed bank by assets and it would not give any further details beyond confirming it had been targeted in a SWIFT attack on Dec. 8.11 days before the assassination- would 4 million dollars help to pay for an assassination?

Akbank said in a statement on Thursday it had immediately taken preventive measures and informed authorities, that its systems were working properly and there was no loss to customers. "This has no impact on Akbank's operations or financials. The maximum risk Akbank would face is $4 million," it said, adding that any potential losses would be covered by insurance. SYSTEMIC SWIFT

SWIFT, a Belgium-based co-operative owned by both central banks and commercial banks, said it had "no indication that our network and core messaging services have been compromised". Founded in 1973, SWIFT operates a secure messaging network that has been considered reliable in handling trillions of dollars in daily fund transfers.
But recent attacks involving criminals sending fraudulent payment instructions after gaining access to a bank's SWIFT interface, either by hacking or with the co-operation of local bank staff, underscore how its role as the backbone of international banking also presents a systemic risk.Anonymous commenter mentioned the hack on the Bangladesh Bank having insider connections.

-It's entirely possible the Turkish bank was cyber heisted with the cooperation of local bank staff.

So we have 4 million dollars removed electronically from a Turkish bank- where did it go?
Because that money went somewhere......



Flag-wrapped coffin of late Russian Ambassador to Turkey Andrei Karlov is carried to a plane during a ceremony at Esenboga airport in Ankara, Turkey, December 20, 2016

** Pepe @ RT


" Let’s cut to the chase: Ankara 2016 is not Sarajevo 1914. This is not a prelude to WWIII. Whoever plotted the assassination of the Russian Ambassador to Turkey Andrey Karlov – a cool, calm, collected old-school diplomat - risks a mighty blowback

The assassin, Mevlut Mert Altintas, was a 22-year-old police academy graduate. He was suspended from the Turkish National Police (TNP) over suspected links to the Fethullahist Terrorist Organization (FETO) after the failed July 15 putsch against Erdogan but returned to duty in November" (questionable) The source for the return claim is Hurriyet - It's an unsubstantiated claim- with no attribution. I've taken issue with Hurriyet's reporting on a number of occasions and have stated that very clearly here at the blog. Hurriyet = Fars: I have trouble with the credibility of both sources and require multiple verifications to take either place seriously. Original reporting from TASS had him removed. That's where it's staying for me. thanks :)
"It’s no secret Gulenists heavily infiltrate the TNP; so a particular outcome of the attack will be an, even more, relentless Erdogan/AKP crackdown on the Gulen network. The Turkish investigation will have to focus not only on the (major) security service fail at Ankara’s modern art center – but way beyond. It’s not very reassuring that Turkish Interior Minister Suleyman Soylu put out a terse statement a very long three hours after the facts.The killer in a black suit and tie shouted slogans about revenge “for Aleppo” – the requisite “Allahu Akbar” included – in both Turkish and broken Arabic, something that might establish a connection to an Islamist group’s rhetoric, although that’s not conclusive evidence. Timing is crucial. The hit happened only one day before the Foreign Ministers of Russia, Turkey and Iran were scheduled to meet in Moscow for a key Syria strategic discussion. They were already closely in touch for the past few weeks on how to strike a comprehensive deal on Aleppo – and beyond.And this right after the crucial, previously established Putin-Erdogan agreement, which implied no less than thousands of “moderate rebels” responding to Turkey’s commands being able to use a “corridor” out of Aleppo. Ankara was fully on board with the plan. That in itself eliminates the possibility of an Ankara-provoked false flag"As readers here know- Turkey and Russia had a deal on Aleppo- it's mentioned in the comment I left at Saker's- I blogged on it in Ocotober of this year and a couple times afterwards. Turkey was on board 100 percent with the deal- No possibility of an Ankara false flag

"President Putin for his part made it very clear he wants to be informed on who “directed” the killer. That’s something that could be interpreted as subtle code for Russian intel already very much in the know" Coincidentally??... Connected???  There was another murder yesterday.. A man from the Russian Foreign Ministry.....
AnonymousDecember 19, 2016 at 4:58 PM The head of one of the departments of the Russian Foreign Ministry found shot dead in Moscow, according to the source REN TV journalists. Officially, this information is not confirmed in the department.
His body with a gunshot wound to the head was found in the apartment. According to some reports, the site of two shells from a traumatic gun found. The gun was found under the sink in the kitchen. Novosti

http://ren.tv/novosti/2016-12-20/nachalnik-odnogo-iz-otdelov-mid-rf-nayden-zastrelennym-v-moskveThe Big Picture"On the bilateral front, Moscow and Ankara are now working close together on counter-terrorism. Turkey’s defense minister was invited to Russia for anti-air defense system negotiations. Bilateral trade is booming again, including the creation of a joint investment fund. On the all-important energy front, Turkish Stream, despite the Obama administration’s obsession about its derailment, became the subject of state law in Ankara earlier this month. Atlanticists are appalled that Moscow, Ankara and Tehran are now fully engaged in designing a post-Battle of Aleppo Syrian future, to the graphic exclusion of the NATO-GCC combo. It’s under this context that the recent alleged capture of a bunch of NATO-GCC operatives – deployed under the US-led-from-behind “coalition” - by Syrian Special Forces in Aleppo must be interpreted.

Syrian member of Parliament Fares Shehabi, the head of the Chamber of Commerce in Aleppo, published the names of the apprehended coalition officers; most are Saudi; there’s one Qatari; the presence of one Moroccan and one Jordanian is explained by the fact Morocco and Jordan are “unofficial” GCC members. And then there’s one Turk, one American (David Scott Winer) and one Israeli. So NATO shows up only via two operatives, but the NATO-GCC link is more than established. If this information proceeds – and that’s still a big “if” - these may well be coalition military personnel and field commanders, formerly advising “moderate rebels” and now a formidable bargaining chip in the hands of Damascus. Both NATO and GCC remain absolutely mum; not even non-denial denials have materialized. That might imply a made in the shade deal for the release of the high-value prisoners, further strengthening Damascus’ grip. It was President Putin who all but established a de facto Russia-Iran-Turkey axis dealing with facts on the Syrian ground in parallel to the rhetoric-heavy, zero-solution UN charade going on in Geneva. Moscow diplomatically emphasizes that the work of the axis complement Geneva. In fact, it’s the only reality-based work. And it’s supposed to sign and seal definitive parameters on the ground before Donald Trump enters the White House. In a nutshell; the five-year (and running) NATO-GCC combo’s multi-billion dollar regime change project in Syria all but miserably failed. Wily Erdogan seems to have learned his realpolitik lesson. On the Atlanticist front nevertheless, that opens myriad avenues to channel geopolitical resentment.
Russia, Turkey & Iran ready to be guarantors in resolving Syrian crisis – Russian defense minister https://t.co/DuXf0RVXiXpic.twitter.com/gGesoc1MzT— RT (@RT_com) December 20, 2016The Big Picture couldn’t be more absolutely unbearable for neocon/neoliberalcon Atlanticists. Ankara slowly but surely is veering the Eurasianist way; bye bye to the EU, and eventually NATO; welcome to the New Silk Roads, a.k.a. the China-driven One Belt, One Road (OBOR); the Russia-driven Eurasia Economic Union (EEU); the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO); the Russia-China strategic partnership; and Turkey as a key hub in Eurasia integration. For all that to happen, Erdogan has concluded Ankara must be on board the Russia-China-Iran long-term strategy to pacify and rebuild Syria and make it a key hub as well of the New Silk Roads. Between that and an “alliance” of fleeting interests with Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and the US, it’s certainly a no-brainer."

"But make no mistake. There will be blood" I would say there will be more blood

UPDATE: 

I'm going to be straightforward here with all readers-  I do not believe and have no reason to believe this incident was faked. There are claims that the Ambassador was shot as many as eight times. This is false. RT reported live yesterday the Ambassdor took 2 shots- Two shots from behind.

WSJ verifies:

 The video taken at the event shows Mr. Karlov at the podium surrounded by framed artwork and then physically flinching when two gunshots are fired at him apparently from behind.Video footage- 

 
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Breaking Part 2: Russian Ambassador Shot Dead Updates

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Mon, 12/19/2016 - 13:50
Find all of Part 1 contained in previous post -
Breaking: Russian Ambassador to Turkey Shot Dead in Ankara As news broke approximately 11:45 am est and continued...

Mevlut Mert Altintas
1:45 EST first news: TASS: Killer of Russia ambassador fired from police after July's abortive putsch — mediaMOSCOW, December 19. /TASS/. The man who assassinated the Russian Ambassador to Turkey, Andrei Karlov, on Monday night is identified as Mevlut Mert Altintas, a former office of the Turkish police who was fired from the forces of law and order in the course of investigation of the July 15 abortive putsch, Haberturk news portal said.
Altintas, 22, was involved in FETO terrorist organization. The assassin was killed by security guards on the spot and a police ID was found on him.Which security killed him? 
He should have been quite easy to identify- since he went in front of all the cameras present and made a political rant/chant.
Turkey is infiltrated in many ways-

UPDATE # 2- 2:40 PM EST
Fatal shooting of Ankara envoy will not affect Russia-Turkey ties: Russian official Link Turkey will not allow Monday's shooting of Russia's ambassador to Ankara to "cast a shadow" over Turkish-Russian friendship, the foreign ministry said on Monday, expressing deep sadness and condemning the "lowly terrorist attack".
The statement, paying tribute to the ambassador as being a well respected diplomat, said the attacker had been "neutralised" and that those responsible for the attack would be brought to justice"There will be no fresh cooling in relations between Moscow and Ankara, no matter how strongly our strategic opponents in Ankara and the West want this," said Leonid Slutsky, chairman of the State Duma or lower house of parliament's international affairs committee.
"It's a horrendous tragedy, but relations between our states will not suffer" he added.
FM Çavuşoğlu learns about assassination of Russian envoy on plane to Moscow Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu was informed about the fatal shooting of Russian ambassador to Russia, Andrev Karlov while he was on the planet to Moscow, a Turkish official said. A crisis management team was formed in the foreign ministry immediately after the attack and the necessary information was delivered to Russia through diplomatic channels, the officials said. Çavuşoğlu was reported to be in direct coordination with the team while he was on the plane and also after he landed in Moscow.
 The attack comes a day before FM Çavuşoğlu, Russian counterpart Sergei Lavrov, and Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif of Iran were to hold unprecedented tripartite talks on the Syria conflict in Moscow.I want my readers to pay attention  to who is spinning this episode in order to demonize Turkey. Because Putin isn't going there! Turkey and Russia are making clear statements that this was a provocation because of their cooperation wrt Syria And the normalization of the two nations relations- I've written at length about this cooperation while many in the so called alt media have continued on with their disinfo/misinfo ways- Here's your chance to discern readers...

UPDATE # 3- 3:55 PM EST 

 Putin: Russian ambassador's murder provocation aimed at undermining Syria peace process




The fatal attack on Russia's ambassador to Turkey, who was killed by a gunman on Monday, is "clearly a provocation" aimed at undermining both Russian-Turkish relations and the settling of the Syrian crisis, Russian President Vladimir Putin said. "This murder is clearly a provocation aimed at undermining the improvement and normalization of Russian-Turkish relations, as well as undermining the peace process in Syria promoted by Russia, Turkey, Iran and other countries interested in settling the conflict in Syria," Putin said in a statement on Monday evening.The "only response" to the attack that Moscow "should offer" is "stepping up the fight against terrorism," the president added."The killers will feel it," Putin said.

Saying that ambassador Andrey Karlov "was a brilliant diplomat, widely respected in the country where he was posted," the president added the Russian diplomat "was in good standing with both the government of Turkey and other political groups in that country."
Russia's Investigative Committee has already launched an investigation into the murder, Putin said in his statement, adding that he had held a phone conversation with his Turkish counterpart, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, on the matter. Russian and Turkish officials will cooperate, Putin added.
"We have to know who organized this killing and gave orders to the assassin," the Russian leader said.

Putin also ordered security to be strengthened at Russia's diplomatic missions abroad, as well as Turkish missions in Russia.
Saying that he knew Karlov personally, and calling him a "kind man," the president tasked officials with awarding the assassinated ambassador posthumously and initiating a memorial for him. "He was killed while performing his duties," Putin said.
UPDATE #4 - 6: 02 EST
Turkish, Russian and Iranian FMs to meet on humanitarian crisis in Syria
Turkish, Russian and Iranian foreign ministers are expected to meet in Moscow on December 20 to discuss the Syrian crisis amid recent diplomatic traffic between Turkey, Russia and Iran over the humanitarian crisis and the evacuation operation in Aleppo.

The defense ministers of the three countries will also hold a meeting on the same day, Russian military said. The military said on Monday that Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu will host his Iranian counterpart Hossein Dehghan and Turkey's Fikri Işık. The head of the Russian Duma later confirmed that scheduled talks between the foreign ministers of Russia, Turkey and Iran will take place despite the assassination of Russian ambassador to Ankara Andrey Karlov on Monday evening.
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Breaking: Russian Ambassador to Turkey Shot Dead in Ankara

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Mon, 12/19/2016 - 11:48
Very Early Reporting

CNN Turk - Twitter

Russian Ambassador Shot In Turkish Capital Of Ankara, Media Report
 The Russian ambassador to Ankara was seriously wounded in a gun attack at a art gallery in the Turkish capital on Monday and was taken to hospital, NTV and other broadcasters reported.
Hurriyet newspaper’s English website said Ambassador Andrei Karlov was shot while making a speech and that Turkish special forces had surronded the building. NTV said three other people were wounded.
CNN Turk television said shooting was continuing in the building.
Russia and Turkey have been involved in conflict in Syria across the border from where over two million Syrian refugees have settled. Turkey has been a staunch opponent of President Bashar al-Assad while Russia has deployed troops and its air force in support of the Syrian leader.
It was not immediately clear who carried out the attack.


"We'll  make you pay for Aleppo"

 "Karlov’s attacker appears to be wearing a suit, and reportedly shouted “we will make you pay for Aleppo.”
The Shooter/Gunman
Reports that the gunman- Shot the ambassador once, told people to leave the room, then shot the Ambassador again. Reports are the injuries are serious- Listening to RT live

Let's look at what's been going on...

1-Turkey and Russia were mending fences
2-Turkey and Russia made the deal on Aleppo that enabled Syria to liberate it
3- Some party(s) want Turkey and Russia to stop cooperating- This is a divisive act. There is no gain to Turkey. 
4- I highly doubt all parties were pleased with the UN resolution changes yesterday
 Breaking! : U.N. Reaches Deal on Aleppo Monitoring- Voting Monday

WaPo
The Russian Ambassador to Turkey Andrei Karlov speaks a gallery in Ankara, where he was shot.  Russia and Turkey, a foe of Assad, recently joined to broker a deal to evacuate civilians and rebel fighters from the last opposition enclaves in Aleppo
The show at the Art Gallery was called "Russia in the Eyes of Turks" 

Updates:

 Independent-

A gunman reportedly shouted "We die in Aleppo, you die here," before shooting the Russian ambassador to Ankara.

This incident occurring one day ahead of Turkey's FM heading to Moscow.

Possible the shooter was Chechen???? (Reports of the shooter speaking in Russian)

A declaration of war against Russia? 

Updates #2

Reports the Ambassador has been killed?

 Confirmed- Reports are confirmed- The Ambassador has indeed died

Link
 The Russian ambassador to Turkey has died after being shot in the capital city of Ankara, Russian news agencies report.
 Link
The Russian ambassador to Turkey has reportedly died after being shot in an attack at an art gallery in the Turkish capital this evening.
Russian news agency RIA has said he has died of his wounds. Russian ambassador 'shot dead' in Turkey 
 The Russian ambassador to Turkey has been killed after a shooting during a visit to an art gallery, Russian media have reported.
The shooter was definitely of the Allahu Akbar crowd- Screaming it like a maniac!

Where was the Ambassador's own security detail?  Wouldn't he have had his own security team?
Anyone?

UPDATE #3:

Russia Says Killing Was a Terror Attack
 The attack on Russian envoy Andrey Karlov, who died of gunshot wounds received during an official event in the Turkish capital, Ankara, is qualified by Moscow as a "terrorist act," the Foreign Ministry says. The topic of the killing of the Russian diplomat will be raised at the UN Security Council on Monday, ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said. The Russian Foreign Ministry will issue a statement later in the day, she added.
UPDATES WILL CONTINUE IN A NEW POST!

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Breaking! : U.N. Reaches Deal on Aleppo Monitoring- Voting Monday

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Sun, 12/18/2016 - 18:43
Will the US/UK veto? Russia/China/France will not veto, obviously.Draft resolution amended by Russia calls on U.N. teams to ensure safe passage for evacuees and immediate access to aid Syria's permanent representative to the United Nations, Bashar Jaafari, center left, and others paused shortly before consultations ended at the Security Council on Sunday Personally speaking... UN observers- untrustworthy- anytime. All this concern for the fighters- for the mercenaries- not for the ordinary people  The fighters who, by the way, have just set fire to buses sent to evacuate starving, sick and injured persons from two predominantly shiite villages, in Idlib,  who have been under seige by the US's thugs    WSJ The resolution drafted by France and amended by Russia calls for Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon immediately to dispatch U.N. teams already on the ground in Syria to areas of eastern Aleppo to ensure safe passage for evacuees, as well as immediate access to humanitarian aid and the protection of medical personnel and hospitals, diplomats said.The Council is expected to adopt the resolution unanimously in a vote on Monday, they said.
“We had intense negotiations,” said France’s Ambassador to the U.N., François Delattre, adding that the discussion was difficult but constructive and in good spirit.
Mr. Delattre said some members on the Council asked to delay the vote to Monday to give them time to consult with their capitals. He didn’t name them.Diplomats didn’t offer details of the new text but said that compromise was reached with Russia to include language stating that the U.N. and international monitoring teams should consult with all the parties in the conflict before the teams are dispatched. While it didn’t mention the Syrian government, diplomats said, the understanding was that President Bashar al-Assad’s regime would be consulted.U.S. Ambassador Samantha Power played down the concession to Russia, saying that it was inevitable that in a war zone “a number of elements” needed to be engaged. She said the text allowed for up to some 100 U.N. monitors to team up with international rescue organizations such as the Red Cross.Still, a requirement to consult and coordinate with Syria’s government and involved parties—such as Russia, Iran and Shiite militia groups—leaves open the possibility that any of those parties could deny the monitors access.The original text of the French resolution had asked for redeployment within five days of the U.N.’s “humanitarian staff already on the ground to carry out adequate, neutral monitoring, direct observation, and to report on evacuations from besieged parts of Aleppo and protection of civilians inside Aleppo."Russia had threatened to veto it Sunday morning, with Ambassador to the U.N. Vitaly Churkin calling it a “political provocation” that was bound to create “disaster” on the ground.“The idea that they [monitors] should be told to go to wander around the ruins of eastern Aleppo without proper preparation and without informing everybody about what is going to happen, this has disaster written all over it,” Mr. Churkin said before heading to the Council meeting.When he left the meeting, Mr. Churkin said it had been “good hours of work.”
Evacuation of civilians and rebel fighters has been delayed and periodically suspended since Russia and Turkey brokered a cease-fire deal to allow safe passage for those trapped in eastern Aleppo. The operation stalled again Friday, with the Syrian regime and its opposition trading blame for an outbreak of gunfire. On Sunday, Syrian activists reported that al-Qaeda-linked terrorist groups attacked and burned five buses en route to assist the evacuation of sick and injured people from two villages near Aleppo.As mentioned Russia & Turkey wage peace.  Turkey gets two terror attacks in a week-
"Diplomats had warned that Russia’s rejection of the monitoring resolution would signal that Moscow and its allies wanted to remain in tight control of eastern Aleppo even in the aftermath of its fall to the regime and the thousands of civilians trapped in besieged areas with no food, medicine or heat.
“This is a way of ensuring that there are impartial observers and there is no possible reason to object to that unless you’re worried about what they’re going to find,” said the U.K.’s Deputy U.N. Ambassador Peter Wilson"UN observers, never impartial. After all they are UN observers. Bias built in
 What might be found..NATO operatives/officers...?????

    hattip gallier2December 16, 2016 at 1:00 PM

    http://www.voltairenet.org/article194584.html
    if that reveals to be true it is huge. I had heard about it already several hours ago and it seems to slowly materialize. The Syrian army are said to have captured very high senior officers from the coalition of criminals, french, brits, us, qatar and saoudi. The article claims the UN security council is currently in a secret meeting to negotiate the issue. If true, it's huge.
        PennyDecember 16, 2016 at 1:05 PM
    Voltaire Network - The Security Council is sitting in private on Friday, December 16, 2016, at 17:00 GMT, while NATO officers were arrested this morning by the Syrian Special Forces in a bunker in East Aleppo.
     hattip wizoz

        WizOzDecember 18, 2016 at 1:16 AM
        Penny, you have been quicker than me:
        Global Research, December 17, 201621st Century Wire 16 December 2016
        BREAKING: At Least 14 US Coalition Military Officers Captured by Syrian Forces in East Aleppo Bunker,By Patrick Henningsen and Vanessa Beeley,
        @http://www.globalresearch.ca/breaking-at-least-14-us-coalition-military-officers-captured-by-syrian-forces-in-east-aleppo-bunker/5563177
        WizOzDecember 18, 2016 at 1:36 AM
        I should have added some more details:
        "Fares Shehabi MP, a prominent Syrian Parliamentarian and head of Aleppo’s Chamber of Commerce published the names of the Coalition officers on his Facebook page on the 15th December (emphasis added):
        Mutaz Kanoglu – Turkey
        David Scott Winer – USA
        David Shlomo Aram – Israel
        Muhamad Tamimi – Qatar
        Muhamad Ahmad Assabian – Saudi
        Abd-el-Menham Fahd al Harij – Saudi
        Islam Salam Ezzahran Al Hajlan – Saudi
        Ahmed Ben Naoufel Al Darij – Saudi
        Muhamad Hassan Al Sabihi – Saudi
        Hamad Fahad Al Dousri – Saudi
        Amjad Qassem Al Tiraoui – Jordan
        Qassem Saad Al Shamry – Saudi
        Ayman Qassem Al Thahalbi – Saudi
        Mohamed Ech-Chafihi El Idrissi – Moroccan...
        According to Alcharifi, captured “NATO” officers were from a number of member states including the US, France, Germany and Turkey, as well as Israel. Here is his statement (translated from French):
        “Thanks to information received, Syrian authorities discovered the headquarters of high ranking western/NATO officers in the basement of an area in East Aleppo and have captured them alive. Some names have already been given to Syrian journalists, myself included. The nationalities are US, French, British, German, Israeli, Turkish, Saudi, Moroccan, Qatari etc. In light of their nationalities and their rank, I assure you that the Syrian government have a very important catch, which should enable them to direct negotiations with the countries that have tried to destroy them.
        Although these initial reports describe the individuals in question as “NATO” officers, it’s unlikely they would have been carrying NATO colors on a covert operation – and might be more accurately labeled as US Coalition officers. Note that early reports suggest that these are not standard ‘street rebel’ or jihadi terrorists but actual Coalition military personnel and field commanders."
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Another Terrorist Attack In Turkey- With Friends like These.... Coup 2.0 & More

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Sun, 12/18/2016 - 16:51
Yup, I'm  a day late with this post. But, I managed to round up some interesting little tidbits.
Including some very enlightening quotes that I found  to be under reported- Or out of context so their full meaning cannot be grasped.... Headlines screamed 'erdogan blames the kurds' but he didn't exactly blame the kurds as you will see and read. And the Deputy Prime Minister  offered up some insights too.

We're going to get to that and more so have no worries.......

sputnikLink
The blast in the central Anatolian city of Kayseri happened at around 8:45 a.m. local time and targeted a civilian bus carrying troops on weekend leave from a nearby commando base, Turkey's armed forces said in a statement. At least 56 people, including 48 servicemen, have been injured in the attack, Turkish officials said. "Those who failed to invade Turkey on July 15 are trying today to discourage Turkey with terrorism and push our people to despair," Interior Minister Suleyman Soylu said in Kayseri hours after the attack, without naming a culprit. "Terrorism in Turkey will end; we are determined to do this."What party tried to invade Turkey on July 15/2016? It wasn't the Kurds, so what player/destabilizer is being referenced here?

Reuters:
Deputy Prime Minister Numan Kurtulmus said similar materials were used in both attacks. In comments probably aimed at Washington, he called on Turkey's allies to stop support for militants.He also said something far more interesting-
"This is what we expect from our friends: Not just a few messages of condemnation, but for them to fight on an equal ground against these terrorist organizations with us," Kurtulmus said in a television interview.Gosh who are these "friends"? Cause Russia is on board with fighting terrorists-

Putin tells Erdogan: Russia ready to enhance cooperation with Turkey on anti-terror fights

Russian President Vladimir Putin has told President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan that his country is ready to increase cooperation against terrorism, Kremlin said on Saturday, as Turkey's central Kayseri province was hit by another terror attack perpetrated by the PKK terrorist organization.

Putin called Erdoğan shortly after the attack, which killed at least 13 soldiers and injured 55 others, to express his condolences to Erdoğan. He reportedly said that he was sure the response to such terrorist attacks should be a more resolute struggle against terrorist groupsSo the 'friends' comment is not aimed at Russia
 
Pay attention to what Erdogan says:

Times colonist:

"We know that these attacks we have endured are not unrelated to happenings in Syria and Iraq, or even our economical fluctuations," Erdogan said.Flashback: Turkey Faces Economic Sabotage. Turkey Paid IMF Debt in 2013 


Let's see... Turkey cooperated with Russia in Syria to the chagrin of it's NATO 'allies'
As mentioned in this post Russia and Turkey Pushed the West Out of Syria
 The Istanbul bombing. More of the same destabilization that's been going on for years now. But it also looked to me like a ‘shot across the bow”- A warning.  The timing of the Istanbul bombing, immediately preceding the imminent liberation of Aleppo? So Aleppo is liberated. Russia, Turkey, Iran et all are cooperating together and quite obviously the US/France/UK/Israel team is furious!

In fact on December 27 there will be a meeting in Moscow.. Turkey, Russia, Iran to hold meeting on Syria in Moscow on December 27 to discuss Syria and more

These nations are all cooperating
 




Let's put the three quotes all together... to maximize the understanding and impact of the separate statements


 "Those who failed to invade Turkey on July 15 are trying today to discourage Turkey with terrorism and push our people to despair," Interior Minister Suleyman Soylu  "Terrorism in Turkey will end; we are determined to do this." "This is what we expect from our friends: Not just a few messages of condemnation, but for them to fight on an equal ground against these terrorist organizations with us," Kurtulmus said "We know that these attacks we have endured are not unrelated to happenings in Syria and Iraq, or even our economical fluctuations," Erdogan said.Reuters surmises these comments are "probably aimed at Washington" It seems to me these comments are DEFINITELY aimed at Washington. No if's, and, or buts about it!


Turkey coup 2.0- American Enterprise Institute aka Neo-Con Central
AEI- Michael Rubin

Earlier this afternoon, I wrote about how the battle for control within the military is accelerating with one faction openly defiant of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Word out of Turkey suggests that Erdogan is taking the situation seriously. The instability may expand beyond Erdogan and elements more loyal to Dogu Perincek: One ex-police chief has also speculated that followers of Fethullah Gülen, thousands of whom have been purged, arrested, or dispossessed of their property, might also try to assassinate Erdogan. That is a charge Gülen’s followers would deny—they have said they eschew violence and deny the accusations that any top officials were involved in the abortive coup.Dogu Perincek- The Maoist? Can anyone enlighten me as to who this communist is?
Neo-Cons (judaics?) and Kurds love Communism.

Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan arrives for the funeral ceremony for police officer Hasim Usta who was killed in Saturday’s blasts, in Istanbul, Turkey, December 12, 2016. REUTERS/Osman Orsal.

AEI- neocon/mmunist central
But, behind-the-scenes, there is a story with ramifications as great: the competition for control of the military between followers of Erdogan on one hand and those of ultra-nationalist and former Maoist political leader and businessman Dogu Perincek on the other. Perincek’s followers have long occupied top roles in the Turkish military, which was fine when Erdogan and Perincek sought to take on common enemies: Kurds, liberals, followers of Fethullah Gülen etc. I had previously written about the Erdogan-Perincek struggle within the Turkish military here, but now it seems that the conflict may be accelerating. In recent days, Perincek has appeared on television and insisted Erdogan give up on his dreams of changing the constitution. He has cited a letter from a member of his political party calling for a popular rebellion and has now openly called for a change in government. Perincek has also suggested that Turkey could be aflame by March. One prominent Perincek supporter, prominent retired air force officer Ahmet Zeki Ucok has openly said there will be a new coup, but with full buy-in from all levels of the Turkish military. To make a business analogy, Erdogan may have become Enron, his fall inevitable even as he projects an image of strength and stability. Either Erdogan goes or Perincek does. That Perincek still walks free perhaps answers the question about who will survive.
I read a whole heck of a lot of Turkish news - in English- Haven't heard of this communist Perincek- Michael Rubin has. Which leaves me with more questions about who he is? And who his friends are? 
Watch out Turkey cause the neo cons have your nation in their sights and they have for years now.

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AGW ? Fall Ice Wine Harvest- Cold in India, Cold in Calgary the UK and November Snow in Tokyo
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AGW ? Fall Ice Wine Harvest- Cold in India, Cold in Calgary the UK and November Snow in Tokyo

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Sun, 12/18/2016 - 11:29
When AGW was a spin fail- It was rebranded to “climate change” which is truly a statement meaning... nothing. Climate always changes.. Always has, always will. Which is why I stick to AGW- Anthropogenic Global Warming- As originally billed.  AGW is A FAIL

While it’s not officially winter here yet...Winter kicks off December 21st. The solstice.  The weather we’ve experienced?  Brutally cold  for this time of year! Temps well below normal- getting very little media coverage, of course! Doesn’t fit with the hard sell of our impending carbon tax/cap and trade in Ontario- you know more taxes to impoverish us all?

Let’s look at how AGW is affecting my neck of the woods:
December 14/2016- The Ice Wine Grape Harvest is On!  This has got to be one of the earliest harvest I can ever recall- Usually they aren’t until January or February.
 Instead, at 5 a.m. on Wednesday, (December 14/2016)  harvest started on the winery's 8 hectares of icewine grapes. Thanks to a cold snap when temperatures dipped below the required -8 C mandated under VQA rules for an icewine harvest, they were able to pick a little earlier than last year — about 21 days earlier.
Paul said picking lasted through morning light until 10 or 11 a.m. when temperatures picked back up. The harvest continued on Thursday when picking was completed. Matthew, viticultural manager and vice-president, oversaw the harvest of the three varietals: Riesling, cabernet franc and vidal grapes, picked in that order.

 The St. Catharines winery was just one of many across the Niagara Region that embraced the frigid temperatures that hit Niagara earlier this week.

Reif Estate winery in Niagara-on-the-Lake started picking on Wednesday evening and continued again on Thursday night, heading out around 8 o'clock and picking straight through to 3 a.m.  The colder the temperature, the better the icewine. You get a lower quantity yield but a higher quality one. Quantity is not very important, it's all about the quality."

The temperatures on Wednesday and Thursday evening dipped to -10 C and -11 C
, he said, adding that in the first batch picked — cabernet franc grapes — had 44 bricks of sweetness, which was higher than the normal run of 40 bricks.

In West Niagara, several wineries — such as Vineland Estates Winery on Moyer Road and Sue-Ann Staff Estate Winery in Jordan Station — were out picking late in the week. Malivoire Wine Company in Beamsville has plans to head out over the weekend if the weather co-operates. 21 days earlier then normal- cause it's way colder..

The rare occasions when it’s been a later harvest the news screams ‘climate change’- But 21 days earlier and nothing. Of course, an earlier harvest just doesn’t fit the AGW sale pitch now does it?

Calgary: Coldest Weather in 2 years

Cold Snap settles in over Calgary and Southern Alberta


Calgary Cold Snap

Overnight temperatures could go as low as –27 C this week 

India

Cold Wave across Northern India- People are dying from cold

Temperature plummets in Punjab, Haryana


Tokyo

Tokyo hit by first November snow in 54 years

UK

UK weather: Temperatures set to plunge across Britain as colder-than-average December looms

 The UK is set to see the most widespread cold snap for this year so far as sub-zero temperatures are expected to sweep across the country, leading Britain into a colder-than-average December.None of this early extreme cold is consistent with global warming- AGW- human caused of course- but extreme tax extraction/manipulation and controls had to be justified with extreme perception management campaigns
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Russia and Turkey Pushed the West Out of Syria

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Thu, 12/15/2016 - 19:31
Yes, they did! They made a deal on Aleppo and they carried it through to it’s conclusion.It's undeniable that Turkey and Russia played a big role in the liberation of Aleppo

When I woke up yesterday morning (wednesday), thinking, as usual, about the day’s blog post, I said to hubby- We’re going to talk Turkey today. (But I was a day behind on this post- apologies)
So let's talk!
The Istanbul bombing. More of the same destabilization that's been going on for years now. But it also looked to me like a ‘shot across the bow”- A warning.  The timing of the Istanbul bombing, immediately preceding the imminent liberation of Aleppo?
 Syrians Celebrate Aleppo's Liberation   

2 birds with one stone?  

 It's undeniable certain very involved parties were less then enthused about the liberation of Aleppo So they lashed out. That lashing out at Turkey took the form of that massive suicide bombing in Istanbul on Saturday.  Perpetrated by America/UK and Israel's besties- PKK affiliates TAK-  Istanbul Bomb Blasts- TAK/PKK Takes Ownership

 And please, let's just call them the PKK- Cause at the heart of it all- It's who they are. And while we're calling spades, spades. Let's just call them a NATO stay behind army. (Gladio B, if you are at all familiar with Sibel Edmonds theory?  Myself, I don't bother differentiating. Stay behinds operations never ended) Cause that is what the PKK is.. and has always been.-  A Stay Behind Army

Dealings between Turkey and Russia

 Turkey’s deal with Russia had ensured, if handled well by all other players, that Aleppo would be liberated. And it was. One claim, from the linked below Bloomberg piece, that I find completely non credible?  The US was caught unawares?? They had no idea at all Russia and Turkey were even talking?? That's just not credible.
 The regular Turkey /Russia meetings were mentioned here.  Information taken straight from main stream media reports. How could the US have been caught unawares? Of course, they were not caught unaware! For what ever reason officials are spinning.

Recent posts noting Russian/Turkish cooperation regarding Aleppo & more

*Russia and Turkey Plot Endgame In Aleppo- October 12/2016


Turkey mum on Aleppo- Turkey quiet on missile defense deployments.- Turkey working with Russia to get fighters out of Aleppo etc., Putin and Erdogan also discussed the modalities of providing humanitarian aid to the civilians in Aleppo.
 Erdogan said, “We thoroughly discussed the Syrian issue. We talked about the Euphrates Shield operation and evaluated ways we can cooperate in this direction. We specifically talked about what strategy we may choose in order to help, from a humanitarian point of view, the inhabitants who are in a dire situation, especially in Aleppo.”

Putin noted, “We have a common stance regarding what must be done to deliver humanitarian aid to Aleppo. The issue is ensuring security for the deliveries of this cargo.”*This Is The End Of Syria (?)
These three reasons are (1) the withdrawal of Turkish support for the armed opposition...

*Richard Haass- CFR President : Gap Growing Between Allies and Turkey

 "Increasingly Turkey is gathering behind the Assad Government"
"Is far more concerned about Kurds then getting rid of Assad Government"

* Turkey’s use of Syrian rebels ‘helped weaken’ Aleppo rebellion
I hadn't used this one here previously, but, had it saved for just the right time.
Firstly, Turkey’s military intervention [known as Operation Euphrates Shield], which was carried out with the approval of Moscow, with the official aim of fighting the Islamic State (IS) group. The operation saw Turkish military officials requesting the support of Syrian rebels. In reality, the purpose of Ankara's intervention was to prevent the Kurds from joining their two enclaves, Afrin and Kobane, into a contiguous zone. [Turkey has long maintained that it would not allow Kurdish YPG peshmergas from seizing territory west of the River Euphrates in northern Syria.] But Turkey’s mobilising of Syrian rebels who originally fought in Aleppo (originally when?)  helped weaken the rebellion in Aleppo and thus facilitated the advance of the Syrian army. All with the cooperation of Moscow. There are likely more, however I couldn't round them all up in a timely fashion- Let's move on to Bloomberg

Bloomberg: Russia and Turkey pushed the West out of Syria

Neither the U.S. nor European powers seem to have been aware that Russia and Turkey were negotiating a ceasefire and evacuation deal for Aleppo on Tuesday. After the capture of the ravaged but all-important city by President Bashar al-Assad's forces, this may be the new normal in Syria -- one in which the West is more of a spectator than an active participant.Odd, it was contained in my post from October 12/2016?
Though the evacuation, planned for 5:00 a.m. Wednesday morning, was delayed by an outbreak of fighting, with the sides blaming each other as usual, talks are continuing, and Western nations are not part of them. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Wednesday morning that it was "pointless" to talk to the U.S.; negotiations with Turkey would be "more effective than many months of a pointless hangout we have had with the United States."While the Western press discussed dire English-language tweets from the last rebel-held enclave of Aleppo,  the Russians and Turks were talking to the rebels and the Assad regime, trying to finalize Assad's victory. Their deal included a withdrawal plan for the rebels that would spare civilians further bloodshed -- something that would enable Moscow and Ankara to burnish their humanitarian credentials and claim the mantle of peacemaker rather than kingmaker.What and the US didn't know- I posted on this in October!!
The U.S. had no idea about it. "I’m not aware that we had any indications that there were bilateral discussions to reach this kind of an arrangement," State Department spokesman John Kirby said when asked whether State knew Turkey, a U.S. ally, was involved in the talks. "So I don't know that there was any prior knowledge." Samantha Power, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, seemed unaware that a deal had been struck when she delivered a prosecutorial speech to the U.N. security council, blaming Assad's regime, Syria and Iran for "contributing to a noose around civilians" and asking, "Are you truly incapable of shame?"I think the bag of hot air that is Samantha Power would have delivered her absurd speech had she known or not.  Maybe John Kirby and Samantha Power should read penny for your thoughts? LOL
At a press conference in Berlin Tuesday afternoon, German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Francois Hollande spoke of a "disastrous" and "heartbreaking " situation in Aleppo, never indicating they knew a deal was in the works and slamming Russia for blocking talks. On Tuesday evening, Merkel and German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier spoke to their Russian counterparts on the phone to discuss Syria, among other issues. By then, the deal had already been announced. The Kremlin readout of Merkel's call with President Vladimir Putin says, "It was agreed to step up bilateral contacts" -- a thinly veiled reference to Merkel's dismay at being insufficiently informed.

This is what happens when Western powers are neither willing to fight nor amenable to a deal. U.S. and European hand-wringing has done little to help the people of Aleppo -- something that will be remembered along with the bloodshed and the Assad regime's ruthlessness. Countries that have been willing both to fight and to talk have stepped up as the real players.I'm not buying the didn't know claims- They had to have known Turkey and Russia were talking and they had to have known what it was about- Because it was openly reported on! Rather then work towards real peace France, US, Germany just wanted to undermine the opportunity for peace that Russia, Turkey, and Syria had worked so hard for!
"Not that the interests of these players are perfectly aligned, however. Russia and Turkey have diverging interests in Syria. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is a sworn enemy of Assad, Putin his ally. Erdogan has a major problem with the Kurdish enclaves in Syria which he believes serve to destabilize the situation across the Turkish border. Putin has quietly backed the Kurds, and Russia has insisted they take part in any talks on Syria's future. A year ago, the Turkish air force shot down a Russian warplane after it briefly intruded into the Turkish airspace near the border, prompting a confrontation between Putin and Erdogan that lasted until Putin quickly and unequivocally supported the Turkish leader against a failed military coup."sworn enemy"- baloney: it's about interests.
There is no obvious solution to the Russian-Turkish differences on Syria short of the country's partition into a "Russian zone" and a "Turkish zone" along the lines of the pre-World War I division of Iran between Russia and Britain, a possibility Turkey expert David Barchard raised in a recent article for the Middle East Eye. Perhaps things are moving toward this kind of a solution right out of the Great Game era: Putin and Erdogan have been talking on the phone before making each major move in Syria. Neither has felt the need to involve Western nations"A  partition of Syria into russian zone and a turkish zone? Wildly speculative. I wouldn't even engage in this type of speculation without way, way, way more information
It is now clear that Russia only negotiated the previous Aleppo ceasefires with the U.S. as a smokescreen for operations that just had one goal -- a military victory for the Assad regime. Turkey's reticence is more troubling for the U.S. -- but perhaps it shouldn't be surprising. Turkey is the only North Atlantic Treaty Organization member that has dared to put boots on the ground in Syria in an operation it has called Euphrates Shield. It has the military capability to make gains without U.S. help. Russian acquiescence is more important for that than the approval of NATO allies.Really, Turkey is the only NATO member that has boots on the ground in Syria? This guy is a laugh riot- he really is. He must be unaware of the special forces the US/UK and France have on the ground in Syria (I believe Canadians too)
If the two countries now agree on how to handle a common threat -- the Islamic State -- they will be in a position to negotiate a post-war settlement with the various Syrian sides.Would that be a bad thing?
Turkey and Russia need a fair division of responsibilities in the fight against Islamic State, hard as that may be to achieve. Turkish forces are actively fighting IS in the immediate vicinity of Aleppo, at the town of al-Bab, now held by the militants but, according to the Turkish government, encircled and about to fall. This is a sensitive area to the Assad regime, but Turkey's activity there appears to be OK with Russia as long as the Turkish army stays clear of Aleppo. Russia hasn't been actively engaged against IS lately, concentrating its firepower on Aleppo: It was even forced to withdraw a small garrison from Palmyra, the site of a major Russian victory celebration earlier this year, as the militants retook the historic site.By refusing to take the risk of a ground force while backing the weakest side in the conflict -- the rebels who have now been pounded out of Aleppo and who have needed a lot of Turkish help to keep fighting elsewhere -- the U.S. has largely written itself out of Syria. Everyone, including the allies, has now seen the futility of relying on Washington for help or solutions.Aleppo's humanitarian plight, the Assad regime's military victory and the gradually developing Russian-Turkish relationship in Syria mark a major defeat for U.S. foreign policy. It will reverberate throughout the Middle East and leave the incoming administration of Donald Trump with a hard choice: to play second fiddle in the region or to try to muscle in, preventing Russia and Turkey from dividing spheres of influence there. Putin, Erdogan discuss Syria, situation in Aleppo ― Kremlin
Russian President Vladimir Putin and Turkish President Tayyip Recep Erdogan had a telephone conversation on Wednesday, in the course of which they discussed the Syrian problem and the ongoing situation in Aleppo, the Kremlin press service said.
"The two heads of state continued the exchange of opinions on the Syrian problem," the report said. "Specifically, they discussed the situation in Aleppo. They made emphasis on the importance of a buildup of joint efforts to improve the humanitarian situation and to give a start to a political process in Syria in practical terms." Moscow says easier to deal on Aleppo with Ankara than Washington
 "Around Aleppo there was a complex tangle of negotiations. ...As far as I understand, for us it was much more straightforward to reach agreements with Turkey than with the Americans," It's been a while I've been informing readers that a great many things have changed. It appeared to me some time ago that Russia and Turkey had been cooperating- When Aleppo was finally liberated I noticed  more then a few main stream sites openly blaming Turkey for it's failure to act in NATO/US interests in Syria-  

Including article such as this: Turkey continues to press al Bab, ignoring eastern Aleppo
 Signs that Turkey will avoid fighting with the Assad regime increased last month, (early november?) when Deputy Prime Minister Numan Kurtulmus told MEMO last month that the operation to take Al-Bab will not extend to relieving east Aleppo, which is currently on the verge of falling.East Aleppo was not a Turkish concern. Turkey securing it's border was the concern. Blocking the US backed Kurds was their concern. Eastern Aleppo?- their concern extended to assisting President Assad in his liberation operation
Richard Haass "Increasingly Turkey is gathering behind the Assad Government"
"Is far more concerned about Kurds then getting rid of Assad Government" If you didn't want to take my word about the change perhaps CFR President Richard Haass's statements will make the change more understandable?
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Understanding this Weekend’s Kurdish Terror Attacks in Turkey and the Wave of New McCarthyism

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Wed, 12/14/2016 - 18:17
Excerpting from a very good post done by Scott @ Willy Loman
It covers much ground- pipelines/greater kurdistan and the many attacks on Turkey in 2016
 

Understanding this Weekend’s Kurdish Terror Attacks in Turkey and the Wave of New McCarthyism

The greatest threat to the well-being of the United States and the rest of humanity is the out of control and desperate post 9/11 “Capitalism’s Invisible Army” (CIA) armed with their proxy mercenary armies (Kurds and Kurd”ISIS”), “moderate” terrorists (Free Syrian Army), al-Qaeda off-shoots (al-Nusra) and seemingly endless piles of unregulated cash (thanks to congress and all that heroin we are cultivating over in Afghanistan).

Contrary to popular belief, the Greater Kurdistan project is not dead on arrival. The recent defeat of Hillary Clinton (and her minions of global instability) in the recent U.S. presidential election caused ripples of concern throughout the ranks of the CIA’s “moderate” terrorist cottage industry in the Middle East. However, these animals didn’t’ crawl away to lick their wounds. Instead, like wounded predators, they are pressing forward in a fevered pitch to rundown and feast on their prey before they become to weak to accomplish their task.What’s happening in Syria, Turkey, Iraq and Iran is quite simple. One graphic makes it all very clear.PipelinesQatar, our closest ally in the Middle East and financial backer of many of the “moderate” terrorists looking to force a regime change in Syria (interesting: Trump’s latest Sec. of State contender, Exxon CEO, has a vested interest in the Qatar LNG pipeline question as Exxon is the leading foreign investment partner to Qatar’s state-own LNG industry) along with Saudi Arabia have a very serious reason for wanting Assad to go and a more friendly regime to be installed in Turkey: total global hegemony in the future LNG market.Finish reading @ Willy Loman's: Understanding this Weekend’s Kurdish Terror Attacks in Turkey and the Wave of New McCarthyism


 Scott gets into the situation with Turkey- The recent very deadly terror attack there and more.
  I will be talking Turkey tomorrow, myself
 

Pipeline Politics

 I've learned much much more about this area and it's politics, so much so that after rereading all three parts, I was certain if I wrote them today, they'd be different posts.
Decided to leave  them as is, since there is plenty of basic information contained within.
These pieces connect to and expand on Scott's article

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Western Media Lies Exposed by Eva Bartlett- Proudly Canadian!

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Wed, 12/14/2016 - 16:53
There is enough documentation at my blog that demonstrates Eva Bartlett is correct.
 Accurate. Truthful. 
And she's Canadian too?!  Thank goodness!  
Good to know all Canadian's are NOT automatons!
In this instance I'll wave my flag- it's rare.
But for her testimony I'll do it.

hattip gallier! 

gallier2December 14, 2016 at 5:32 AMHere's her complete interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1VNQGsiP8M

Boo to the guy who pretended there were no lies- "documentable facts"
That guy has cognitive dissonance! 
There was lie after lie after lie. Obfuscation. Fabrication. 
I know, though never having gone to Syria. I've documented lie after lie, year after year.
It's been disgusting- while also enlightening 

From Earlier:
Undermining Aleppo's Liberation! Excellent Interview w Bashar Assad !! 
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Undermining Aleppo's Liberation! Excellent Interview w Bashar Assad !!

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Wed, 12/14/2016 - 12:19
Very clearly parties with vested interests are attempting to impede or reverse Aleppo's liberation from terrorism- Assad states very clearly ISIS came to Palmyra with a whole batch of new/improved weapons-  Fighting started up again- Reports today indicate buses to transport civilians out of eastern Aleppo left empty despite the fact people had waited all night for the buses to arrive- 


 

UPDATE: 1:04pm est-
Was this how the fighting kicked off again in Aleppo?
Reuters: 


 The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights monitoring group and a witness reported that insurgents had staged a car bomb attack southwest of the historic Old City. No Food in Eastern Aleppo? Not the case for western backed terrorists!

 Residents say they haven't seen this much food in ages. Dried goods, and other supplies - discovered at the abandoned headquarters of a local rebel group in eastern Aleppo, after the militants withdrew in the face of a government advance. Residents accuse the so-called 'Army of Islam' rebels who were here of keeping much-needed civilian aid packages - for themselves. (SOUNDBITE) (Arabic) HANAN AL SALEM, A SYRIAN CIVILIAN, SAYING: "There is no milk, there is no cooking, there is no meat." (SOUNDBITE) (Arabic) AMER SALEEM, A SYRIAN MAN, SAYING: "They kept all these items, here and there. They did not allow us to eat even a piece of bread"Very clearly the western backed rebels had food in abundance and they horded it or, undoubtedly,  used it to coerce the residents!! 

 All the lies the whoring media and UN spread. Lies, lies, lies!

Interview Link
 President Obama’s announcement of a waiver for arming unspecified rebel groups in Syria came shortly before the terrorist group Islamic State launched a massive attack on Palmyra. Syrian President Bashar Assad believes it was no coincidence, he told RT.

"The announcement of the lifting of that embargo is related directly to the attack on Palmyra and to the support of other terrorists outside Aleppo, because when they are defeated in Aleppo, the United States and the West, they need to support their proxies somewhere else," he said.

"The crux of that announcement is to create more chaos, because the United States creates chaos in order to manage this chaos," Assad added.

He added that Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) forces “came with different and huge manpower and firepower that ISIS never had before during this attack, and they attacked on a huge front, tens of kilometers that could be a front of armies. ISIS could only have done that with the support of states. Not state; states."

In the interview, the Syrian leader explained how his approach to fighting terrorism differs from that of the US, why he believes the military success of his forces in Aleppo was taken so negatively in the West, and what he expects from US President-elect Donald Trump.

The full transcript of the interview is below.

RT: Mr. President, thank you very much for agreeing to speak with us.

President Bashar al-Assad: You're most welcome in Damascus.

RT: We start with Aleppo, of course. Aleppo is now seeing what is perhaps the most fierce fighting since the war started almost six years ago here in Syria, but the Western politicians and Western media have been largely negative about your army's advance. Why you think this is happening? Do they take it as their own defeat?

B.A.: Actually, after they failed in Damascus, because the whole narrative was about "liberating Damascus from the state" during the first three years. When they failed, they moved to Homs, when they failed in Homs, they moved to Aleppo, they focused on Aleppo during the last three years, and for them this is the last most important card they could have played on the Syrian battlefield. Of course, they still have terrorists in different areas in Syria, but it's not like talking about Aleppo as the second largest city which has the political, military, economic, and even moral sense when their terrorists are defeated. So, for them the defeat of the terrorists is the defeating of their proxies, to talk bluntly. These are their proxies, and for them the defeat of these terrorists is the defeat of the countries that supervised them, whether regional countries or Western countries like United States, first of all United States, and France, and UK.

RT: So, you think they take it as their own defeat, right?

B.A.: Exactly, that's what I mean. The defeat of the terrorists, this is their own defeat because these are their real army on the ground. They didn't interfere in Syria, or intervened, directly; they have intervened through these proxies. So, that's how we have to look at it if we want to be realistic, regardless of their statements, of course.

RT: Palmyra is another troubled region now, and it's now taken by ISIS or ISIL, but we don't hear a lot of condemnation about it. Is that because of the same reason?

B.A.: Exactly, because if it was captured by the government, they will be worried about the heritage. If we liberate Aleppo from the terrorists, they would be – I mean, the Western officials and the mainstream media – they're going to be worried about the civilians. They're not worried when the opposite happens, when the terrorists are killing those civilians or attacking Palmyra and started destroying the human heritage, not only the Syrian heritage. Exactly, you are right, because ISIS, if you look at the timing of the attack, it's related to what's happening in Aleppo. This is the response to what's happening in Aleppo, the advancement of the Syrian Arab Army, and they wanted to make this... or let's say, to undermine the victory in Aleppo, and at the same time to distract the Syrian Army from Aleppo, to make it move toward Palmyra and stop the advancement, but of course it didn't work.
'ISIS could only attack Palmyra the way it did with supervision of US alliance'

RT: We also hear reports that Palmyra siege was not only related to Aleppo battle, but also to what was happening in Iraq, and there are reports that the US-led coalition – which is almost 70 countries – allowed ISIL fighters in Mosul in Iraq to leave, and that strengthened ISIL here in Syria. Do you think it could be the case?

B.A.: It could be, but this is only to wash the hand of the American politicians from their responsibility on the attack, when they say "just because of Mosul, of course, the Iraqi army attacked Mosul, and ISIS left Mosul to Syria." That's not the case. Why? Because they came with different and huge manpower and firepower that ISIS never had before during this attack, and they attacked on a huge front, tens of kilometers that could be a front of armies. ISIS could only have done that with the support of states. Not state; states. They came with different machineguns, cannons, artillery, everything is different. So, it could only happen when they come in this desert with the supervision of the American alliance that's supposed to attack them in al-Raqqa and Mosul and Deir Ezzor, but it didn't happen; they either turned a blind eye on what ISIS is going to do, and, or - and that's what I believe – they pushed toward Palmyra. So, it's not about Mosul. We don't have to fall in that trap. It's about al-Raqqa and Deir Ezzor. They are very close, only a few hundred kilometers, they could come under the supervision of the American satellites and the American drones and the American support.

RT: How strong ISIS is today?

B.A.: As strong as the support that they get from the West and regional powers. Actually, they're not strong for... if you talk isolated case, ISIS as isolated case, they're not strong, because they don't have the natural social incubator. Without it, terrorists cannot be strong enough. But the real support they have, the money, the oil field investment, the support of the American allies' aircrafts, that's why they are strong. So, they are as strong as their supporters, or as their supervisors.


RT: In Aleppo, we heard that you allowed some of these terrorists to leave freely the battleground. Why would you do that? It's clear that they can go back to, let's say, Idleb, and get arms and get ready for further attacks, then maybe attack those liberating Aleppo.

B.A.: Exactly, exactly, that's correct, and that's been happening for the last few years, but you always have things to lose and things to gain, and when the gain is more than what you lose, you go for that gain. In that case, our priority is to protect the area from being destroyed because of the war, to protect the civilians who live there, to give the chance for those civilians to leave through the open gates, to leave that area to the areas under the control of the government, and to give the chance to those terrorists to change their minds, to join the government, to go back to their normal life, and to get amnesty. When they don't, they can leave with their armaments, with the disadvantage that you mentioned, but this is not our priority, because if you fight them in any other area outside the city, you're going to have less destruction and less civilian casualties, that's why.
'Fighting terrorists US-style cannot solve the problem'

RT: I feel that you call them terrorists, but at the same time you treat them as human beings, you tell them "you have a chance to go back to your normal life."

B.A.: Exactly. They are terrorists because they are holding machineguns, they kill, they destroy, they commit vandalism, and so on, and that's natural, everywhere in the world that's called as terrorism. But at the same time, they are humans who committed terrorism. They could be something else. They joined the terrorists for different reasons, either out of fear, for the money, sometimes for the ideology. So, if you can bring them back to their normal life, to be natural citizens, that's your job as a government. It's not enough to say "we're going to fight terrorists." Fighting terrorists is like a videogame; you can destroy your enemy in the videogame, but the videogame will generate and regenerate thousands of enemies, so you cannot deal with it on the American way: just killing, just killing! This is not our goal; this is the last option you have. If you can change, this is a good option, and it succeeded. It succeeded because many of those terrorists, when you change their position, some of them living normal lives, and some of them joined the Syrian Army, they fought with the Syrian Army against the other terrorists. This is success, from our point of view.

RT: Mr. President, you just said that you gain and you lose. Do you feel you've done enough to minimize civilian casualties during this conflict?

B.A.: We do our utmost. What's enough, this is subjective; each one could look at it in his own way. At the end, what's enough is what you can do; my ability as a person, the ability of the government, the ability of Syria as a small country to face a war that's been supported by tens of countries, mainstream media's hundreds of channels, and other machines working against you. So, it depends on the definition of "enough," so this is, as I said, very subjective, but I'm sure that we are doing our best. Nothing is enough at the end, and the human practice is always full of correct and flows, or mistakes, let's say, and that's the natural thing.
'West’s cries for ceasefire meant to save terrorists'

RT: We hear Western powers asking Russia and Iran repeatedly to put pressure on you to, as they put it, "stop the violence," and just recently, six Western nations, in an unprecedented message, they asked Russia and Iran again to put pressure on you, asking for a ceasefire in Aleppo.

B.A.: Yeah.


RT: Will you go for it? At the time when your army was progressing, they were asking for a ceasefire.

B.A.: Exactly. It's always important in politics to read between the lines, not to be literal. It doesn't matter what they ask; the translation of their statement is for Russia: "please stop the advancement of the Syrian Army against the terrorists." That's the meaning of that statement, forget about the rest. "You went too far in defeating the terrorists, that shouldn't happen. You should tell the Syrians to stop this, we have to keep the terrorists and to save them." This is in brief.

Second, Russia never – these days, I mean, during this war, before that war, during the Soviet Union – never tried to interfere in our decision. Whenever they had opinion or advice, doesn't matter how we can look at it, they say at the end "this is your country, you know what the best decision you want to take; this is how we see it, but if you see it in a different way, you know, you are the Syrian." They are realistic, and they respect our sovereignty, and they always defend the sovereignty that's based on the international law and the Charter of the United Nations. So, it never happened that they made any pressure, and they will never do it. This is not their methodology.

RT: How strong is the Syrian Army today?

B.A.: It's about the comparison, to two things: first of all, the war itself; second, to the size of Syria. Syria is not a great country, so it cannot have a great army in the numerical sense. The support of our allies was very important; mainly Russia, and Iran. After six years, or nearly six years of the war, which is longer than the first World War and the second World War, it's definitely and self-evident that the Syrian Army is not to be as strong as it was before that. But what we have is determination to defend our country. This is the most important thing. We lost so many lives in our army, we have so many martyrs, so many disabled soldiers. Numerically, we lost a lot, but we still have this determination, and I can tell you this determination is much stronger than before the war. But of course, we cannot ignore the support from Russia, we cannot ignore the support from Iran, that make this determination more effective and efficient.


RT: President Obama has lifted a ban on arming some Syrian rebels just recently. What impact you think could it have on the situation on the ground, and could it directly or indirectly provide a boost to terrorists?

B.A.: We're not sure that he lifted that embargo when he announced it. Maybe he lifted it before, but announced it later just to give it the political legitimacy, let's say. This is first. The second point, which is very important: the timing of the announcement and the timing of attacking Palmyra. There's a direct link between these two, so the question is to whom those armaments are going to? In the hands of who? In the hands of ISIS and al-Nusra, and there's coordination between ISIS and al-Nusra. So, the announcement of this lifting of that embargo is related directly to the attack on Palmyra and to the support of other terrorists outside Aleppo, because when they are defeated in Aleppo, the United States and the West, they need to support their proxies somewhere else, because they don't have any interest in solving the conflict in Syria. So, the crux of that announcement is to create more chaos, because the United States creates chaos in order to manage this chaos, and when they manage it, they want to use the different factors in that chaos in order to exploit the different parties of the conflict, whether they are internal parties or external parties.


Lifting of the embargo was announced December 08- Quite likely the terrorists had already been armed***** Whitehouse.gov
Presidential Determination and Waiver -- Pursuant to Section 2249a of Title 10, United States Code, and Sections 40 and 40A of the Arms Export Control Act to Support U.S. Special Operations to Combat Terrorism in Syria
RT: Mr. President, how do you feel about being a small country in the middle of this tornado of countries not interested in ending the war here?

B.A.: Exactly. It's something we've always felt before this war, but we felt it more of course today, because small countries feel safer when there's international balance, and we felt the same, what you just mentioned, after the collapse of the Soviet Union when there was only American hegemony, and they wanted to implement whatever they want and to dictate all their policies on everyone. Small countries suffer the most. So, we feel it today, but at the same time, today there's more balance with the Russian role. That's why I think we always believe the more Russia is stronger – I'm not only talking about Syria, I'm talking about every small country in the world – whenever the stronger Russia, more rising China, we feel more secure. It's painful, I would say it's very painful, this situation that we've been living, on every level; humanitarian level, the feeling, the loss, everything. But at the end, it's not about losing and winning; it's about either winning or losing your country. It's existential threat for Syria. It's not about government losing against other government or army against army; either the country will win, or the country will disappear. That's how we look at it. That's why you don't have time to feel that pain; you only have time to fight and defend and do something on the ground.
'Mainstream media lost credibility along with moral compass'

RT: Let's talk about media's role in this conflict.

B.A.: Yeah

RT: All sides during this war have been accused of civilian casualties, but the Western media has been almost completely silent about the atrocities committed by the rebels… what role is the media playing here?

B.A.: First of all, the mainstream media with their fellow politicians, they are suffering during the last few decades from moral decay. So, they have no morals.
Whatever they talk about, whatever they mention or they use as mask, human rights, civilians, children; they use all these just for their own political agenda in order to provoke the feelings of their public opinion to support them in their intervention in this region, whether militarily or politically. So, they don’t have any credibility regarding this. If you want to look at what's happening in the United States is rebellion against the mainstream media, because they've been lying and they kept lying on their audiences. We can tell that, those, let's say, the public opinion or the people in the West doesn't know the real story in our region, but at least they know that the mainstream media and their politicians were laying to them for their own vested interests agenda and vested interests politicians. That's why I don't think the mainstream media could sell their stories anymore and that's why they are fighting for their existence in the West, although they have huge experience and huge support and money and resources, but they don't have something very important for them to survive, which is the credibility. They don't have it, they lost it. They don't have the transparency, that's why they don't have credibility. That's why they are very coward today, they are afraid of your channel, of any statement that could tell the truth because it's going to debunk their talks. That's why.Last post addressing media lies from just yesterday- though pretty much every single post here has addressed media lies, obfuscations and misdirections
*****  Aleppo's LIBERATION : Will the media reboot?

RT: Reuters news agency have been quoting Amaq, ISIL's mouthpiece, regarding the siege of Palmyra. Do you think they give legitimacy to extremists in such a way? They're quoting their media.

B.A.: Even if they don't mention their news agencies, they adopt their narrative anyway. But if you look at the technical side of the way ISIS presented itself from the very beginning through the videos and the news and the media in general and the PR, they use Western technique. Look at it, it's very sophisticated. How could somebody who's under siege, who's despised all over the world, who's under attack from the airplanes, who the whole world wants to liberate every city from him, could be that sophisticated unless he is not relaxed and has all the support? So, I don't think it is about Amaq; it's about the West adopting their stories, sometimes directly, sometimes indirectly.

RT: Donald Trump takes over as US President in a few weeks. You mentioned America many times today. What do you expect from America's new administration?

B.A.: His rhetoric during the campaign was positive regarding the terrorism, which is our priority today. Anything else is not priority, so, I wouldn't focus on anything else, the rest is American, let's say, internal matters, I wouldn't worry about. But the question whether Trump has the will or the ability to implement what he just mentioned. You know that most of the mainstream media and big corporate, the lobbies, the Congress, even some in his party were against him; they want to have more hegemony, more conflict with Russia, more interference in different countries, toppling governments, and so on. He said something in the other direction. Could he sustain against all those after he started next month? That's the question. If he could, I think the world will be in a different place, because the most important thing is the relation between Russia and the Unites States. If he goes towards that relation, most of the tension around the world will be pacified. That's very important for us in Syria, but I don't think anyone has the answer to that. He wasn't a politician, so, we don't have any reference to judge him, first. Second, nobody can tell what kind of pattern is it going to be next month and after.
'Western countries only sent aid to terrorists'

RT: The humanitarian situation in Syria is a disaster, and we hear from EU foreign policy chief, Madam Mogherini, that EU is the only entity to deliver humanitarian aid to Syria. Is that true?

B.A.: Actually, all the aid that any Western country sent was to the terrorists, to be very clear, blunt and very transparent. They never cared about a single Syrian human life. We have so many cities in Syria till today surrounded by and besieged by the terrorists; they prevented anything to reach them, food, water, anything, all the basic needs of life. Of course, they attack them on daily basis by mortars and try to kill them. What did the EU send to those? If they are worried about the human life, if they talk about the humanitarian aspect, because when you talk about the humanitarian aspect or issue, you don't discriminate. All the Syrians are humans, all the people are humans. They don't do that. So, this is the double standard, this is the lie that they keep telling, and it's becoming a disgusting lie, no-one is selling their stories anymore. That's not true, what she mentioned, not true.

RT: Some suggestions say that for Syria, the best solution would to split into separate countries governed by Sunni, Shi'a, Kurds. Is it any way possible?

B.A.: This is the Western – with some regional countries' – hope or dream, and this is not new, not related to this war; that was before the war, and you have maps for this division and disintegration. But actually, if you look at the society today, the Syrian society is more unified than before the war. This is reality. I'm not saying anything to raise the morale of anyone, I'm not talking to Syrian audience anyway now, I'm talking about the reality. Because of the lessons of the war, the society became more realistic and pragmatic and many Syrians knew that being fanatic doesn't help, being extreme in any idea, I'm not only talking about extremism in the religious meaning; politically, socially, culturally, doesn't help Syria. Only when we accept each other, when we respect each other, we can live with each other and we can have one country. So, regarding the disintegration of Syria, if you don't have this real disintegration among the society and different shades and spectrum of the Syrian society, Syrian fabric, you cannot have division. It's not a map you draw, I mean, even if you have one country while the people are divided, you have disintegration. Look at Iraq, it's one country, but it is disintegrated in reality. So, no, I'm not worried about this. There's no way that Syrians will accept that. I'm talking now about the vast majority of the Syrians, because this is not new, this is not the subject of the last few weeks or the last few months. This is the subject of this war. So, after nearly six years, I can tell you the majority of the Syrians wouldn't accept anything related to disintegration, they are going to live as one Syria.

RT: As a mother, I feel the pain of all Syrian mothers. I'm speaking about children in Syria, what does the future hold for them?

B.A.: This is the most dangerous aspect of our problem, not only in Syria; wherever you talk about this dark Wahhabi ideology, because many of those children who became young during the last decade, or more than one decade, who joined the terrorists on ideological basis, not for the like of money or anything else, or hope, let's say, they came from open-minded families, educated families, intellectual families. So, you can imagine how strong the terrorism is.
'Being secular doesn’t protect a nation from terrorist ideology'

RT: So, that happened because of their propaganda?

B.A.: Exactly, because the ideology is very dangerous; it knows no borders, no political borders, and the network, the worldwide web has helped those terrorists using fast and inexpensive tools in order to promote their ideology, and they could infiltrate any family anywhere in the world, whether in Europe, in your country, in my country, anywhere. You have secular society, I have secular society, but it didn't protect the society from being infiltrated.

RT: Do you have any counter ideology for this?

B.A.: Exactly, because they built their ideology on the Islam, you have to use the same ideology, using the real Islam, the real moderate Islam, in order to counter their ideology. This is the fast way. If we want to talk about the mid-term and long-term, it's about how much can you upgrade the society, the way the people analyze and think, because this ideology can only work when you cannot analyze, when you don't think properly. So, it's about the algorithm of the mind, if you have natural or healthy operating system, if you want to draw an analogy to the IT, if you have good operating systems in our mind, they cannot infiltrate it like a virus. So, it's about the education, media and policy because sometimes when you have a cause, a national cause, and people lose hope, you can push those people towards being extremists, and this is one of the influences in our region since the seventies, after the war between the Arabs and the Israelis, and the peace failed in every aspect to recapture the land, to give the land and the rights to its people, you have more desperation, and that played into the hand of the extremists, and this is where the Wahhabi find fertile soil to promote its ideology.

RT: Mr. President, thank you very much for your time, and I wish your country peace and prosperity, and as soon as possible.

B.A.: Thank you very much for coming.

RT: This time has been very tough for you, so I wish it's going to end soon.

B.A.: Thank you very much for coming to Syria. I'm very glad to receive you.

RT: Thank you.
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Aleppo's LIBERATION : Will the media reboot?

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Tue, 12/13/2016 - 17:18
Will the media reboot? Will politicians tell the entire unvarnished truth?
Obviously the answer to both questions is : NO

Yesterday for all intents and purposes Aleppo had been LIBERATED. Her people free of the terrorists hordes that had ensconced themselves within- So last night, I made a point of paying attention to the tell-a-vision news. The talking heads could barely contain their glee over the fact ISIS had moved back in Palmyra- HOWEVER– it was reported that their had been “advances in Aleppo by the Syrian regime” That was it “advances”. I called my mother in law- she get’s all her news from tell-a -vision. She hadn’t heard or seen any reporting regarding Aleppo’s LIBERATION. Imagine my non-surprise upon hearing that? So, hubby and I got to thinking how was this situation going to be spun? Hubby said all we’re going to hear and read about is war crimes. Turn the computer on and what appeared before our eyes? Certainly not a sleigh with 8 tiny reindeer! 
 
No, it was- “civilians slaughtered” More then a few times the word Srebrenecia was bandied about. The (shudder) Guardian got slaughter and Srebrenica in the headline with the word ‘genocide’ in the sub heading- Seriously-read it for yourself

The heavy handed disinfo spin propaganda machine was clearly working over time to brutally and disgustingly manage perceptions - All I can say to this is ..... it’s just another day of spin for the war mongering media- 

I was and am still unable to access SANA pretty much all day...  It’s now 4:43 pm est and still no luck. Hopefully the site is just overwhelmed with visitors. Hate to think my freedom lovin’ country is ensuring my ISP blocks my access

Here’s where we get to a piece by Robert Fisk- I’m not a huge fan of his. He goes along to get along... He’s been paid well for doing so. Me, I do this 'cause I like knowing truth and reality as much as possible- Robert Fisk think ‘experts and journalists will have to reboot their stories’- They will reboot and already have begun to but not in the way they should. Not in the ways Fisk alludes to. Their reboot was already clear this morning!

Aleppo, Syria: Politicians, 'experts' and journalists will have to reboot their stories-Robert Fisk

Western politicians, “experts” and journalists are going to have to reboot their stories over the next few days now that Bashar al-Assad’s army has retaken control of eastern Aleppo.

“We’re going to find out if the 250,000 civilians “trapped” in the city were indeed that numerous. We’re going to hear far more about why they were not able to leave when the Syrian government and Russian air force staged their ferocious bombardment of the eastern part of the city.
And we’re going to learn a lot more about the “rebels” whom we in the West – the US, Britain and our head-chopping mates in the Gulf – have been supporting”
Mr Fisk- we already know.

“They did, (the 'rebels')  after all, include al-Qaeda (alias Jabhat al-Nusra, alias Jabhat Fateh al-Sham), the “folk” – as George W Bush called them – who committed the crimes against humanity in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania on 11 September 2001. Remember the War on Terror? Remember the “pure evil” of al-Qaeda. Remember all the warnings from our beloved security services in the UK about how al-Qaeda can still strike terror in London?Not when the rebels, including al-Qaeda, were bravely defending east Aleppo, we didn’t – because a powerful tale of heroism, democracy and suffering was being woven for us, a narrative of good guys versus bad guys as explosive and dishonest as “weapons of mass destruction”.But it’s time to tell the other truth: that many (most) of the “rebels” whom we in the West have been supporting – and which our preposterous Prime Minister Theresa May indirectly blessed when she grovelled to the Gulf head-choppers last week – are among the cruellest and most ruthless of fighters in the Middle East.And while we have been tut-tutting at the frightfulness of Isis during the siege of Mosul (an event all too similar to Aleppo, although you wouldn’t think so from reading our narrative of the story), we have been willfully ignoring the behaviour of the rebels of Aleppo.Only a few weeks ago, I interviewed one of the very first Muslim families to flee eastern Aleppo during a ceasefire. The father had just been told that his brother was to be executed by the rebels because he crossed the frontline with his wife and son. He condemned the rebels for closing the schools and putting weapons close to hospitals. And he was no pro-regime stooge; he even admired Isis for their good behaviour in the early days of the siege.
Thems our boys in 'merica, uk &  canada!
Around the same time, Syrian soldiers were privately expressing their belief to me that the Americans would allow Isis to leave Mosul to again attack the regime in Syria.
An American general had actually expressed his fear that Iraqi Shiite militiamen might prevent Isis from fleeing across the Iraqi border to Syria.

The Americans would ALLOW ISIS TO LEAVE MOSUL???
And American general expresses fear shiite militiamen might prevent ISIS from getting to Syria??? Here's where we get to the move on Palmyra- The US & company allowed, encouraged and very clearly facilitated the ISIS attack. No if's and or buts about it!
 

Well, so it came to pass. In three vast columns of suicide trucks and thousands of armed supporters, Isis has just swarmed across the desert from Mosul in Iraq, and from Raqqa and Deir ez-Zour in eastern Syria to seize the beautiful city of Palmyra all over again.

 How did they get past those fierce ISIS fightin’ Kurds?!  Did America's besties just let them pass on through. Sure looks that way. 

It is highly instructive to look at our reporting of these two parallel events. Almost every headline today speaks of the “fall” of Aleppo to the Syrian army – when in any other circumstances, we would have surely said that the army had “recaptured” it from the “rebels” – while Isis was reported to have “recaptured” Palmyra when (given their own murderous behaviour) we should surely have announced that the Roman city had “fallen” once more under their grotesque rule.Aleppo falls?  But Palmyra is recaptured? 
Hey it is the msm... black is white and white is black- 

At PFYT's Aleppos was liberated and Palmyra was taken by terrorists backed by the US and company!


Our "chaps" brought that on the Syrian- guffaw wave a flag!
Words matter. These are the men – our “chaps”, I suppose, if we keep to the current jihadi narrative – who after their first occupation of the city last year beheaded the 82-year-old scholar who tried to protect the Roman treasures and then placed his spectacles back on his decapitated head.By their own admission, the Russians flew 64 bombing sorties against the Isis attackers outside Palmyra. But given the huge columns of dust thrown up by the Isis convoys, why didn’t the American air force join in the bombardment of their greatest enemy? But no: for some reason, the US satellites and drones and intelligence just didn’t spot them – any more than they did when Isis drove identical convoys of suicide trucks to seize Palmyra when they first took the city in May 2015.The Russians flew 64 bombing sorties... and the American's? Nadda. Nothing. No satellites noticed their moving? No drones? No intelligence. They left Mosul and drove straight into Syria. Incredible!
There’s no doubting what a setback Palmyra represents for both the Syrian army and the Russians – however symbolic rather than military

So what happened? Most likely is that the Syrian military simply didn’t have the manpower to defend Palmyra while closing in on eastern Aleppo.Well that makes sense- And while SAA is occupied the US sent their proxies into Palmyra. There is NO DENYING that ISIS like their Kurdish partners are US proxies. The US, UK and others knowing full well Syria was occupied allowed free passage of  jihadis from IRAQ TO SYRIA.   

You can read the rest for yourself at the link provided

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Lavrov: US Proposal To Declare Pause In Aleppo Lead Up Blind Alley- Aleppo Recovery 100%? "Palmyra, Islamic State’s offensive from Iraq, from Mosul to all appearances, offensive in three territories patrolled by the US-led coalition - all this suggests, and I hope very much to be wrong, that it was orchestrated, coordinated to give a respite to the militants who have entranced in Eastern Aleppo," he said.
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Syrians Celebrate Aleppo's Liberation

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Mon, 12/12/2016 - 17:07
 Made me cry.... I've been covering this since 2011- Most likely being the first person to have noticed the start of the destabilization IN March of 2011.

March 24/2011: Western backed Social Media "revolution" coming to Syria

 Nearly six years and more then 1200 posts here at the blog regarding Syria and all the going's on in the neighbourhood.The remake the middle east /north africa agenda which Syria is just one part of.

It's not over. But it's nice to see the Syrian people happy.

 Press TV

 Residents in Syria’s Aleppo have poured onto the streets to celebrate the imminent declaration of the army’s liberation of the northern city.





Live Broadcasting on Syrian Television




The US/UK/Israeli media mouthpieces..... the spin is incredible. I won't post any of it here because today belongs to Syria and her people.

As the day progressed:
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Lavrov: US Proposal To Declare Pause In Aleppo Lead Up Blind Alley- Aleppo Recovery 100%?

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Mon, 12/12/2016 - 13:45
Lavrov :US proposals to declare pauses in hostilities in Aleppo lead up blind alley


BELGRADE, December 12. /TASS/. US proposals to declare pauses in hostilities for coordinating corridors for the withdrawal of gunmen and civilians from eastern Aleppo lead up a blind alley, the Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said on Monday.

"The US has returned to its old and dead-end position which is that before coordinating the corridors [for the withdrawal of refugees and gunmen] a pause of three, four and seven days must be declared," he said.

"We have already gone through this. This will mean that militants will once again get a respite. I hope they will stop sparing gunmen, that the United States as a serious power will use its influence on militants and on those who control gunmen apart from Washington, and that we will finally be able to solve this problem, honestly and caring first of all for the civilian population," he added.

"Palmyra, Islamic State’s offensive from Iraq, from Mosul to all appearances, offensive in three territories patrolled by the US-led coalition - all this suggests, and I hope very much to be wrong, that it was orchestrated, coordinated to give a respite to the militants who have entranced in Eastern Aleppo," he said.

 "Those who want to be part of settlement must immediately join the ceasefire regime and all the rest will be seen as subject to extermination," the Russian minister stressed.

SOHR: Battle for Aleppo Ended? 

 WaPo is claiming they are retreating deeper into terrorist held territory- alluding to Aleppo being recovered

The director of the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) has today declared that the battle for Aleppo has reached its end, as the Assad regime army and its allies force the Syrian opposition to withdraw from the last six neighbourhoods that it controlled in east Aleppo.

Rami Abdulrahman, SOHR’s chief, made the announcement today after the opposition to President Bashar Al-Assad were finally forced to abandon their last holdouts WaPo image- Looks like final retreatTaking full control of Aleppo......Aleppo’s fall would mark a major setback for rebel factions ......
From Earlier:Yesterday:
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Centcom: US Backed SDF (90%+ Kurds) Initiate Next Phase of Raqqa Isolation (Annexation?)

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Mon, 12/12/2016 - 09:29
 Flashback: November 6/16: Whose Timeline Will Win In Raqqa-Was the US forced Into a Move on Raqqa?
*As mentioned previously if Aleppo was to be taken back by Syria- The US and Kurds would need Raqqa for leverage over Damascus. It seems the US backed terrorists will lose Aleppo.We see today Aleppo has been taken back. Making the move on Raqqa a necessity

Centcom: US Backed SDF Initiate Next Phase of Raqqa Isolation
SOUTHWEST ASIA, Dec. 12, 2016 — The Syrian Democratic Forces on Dec. 10 announced the start of the next phase of their operation to isolate the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant’s self-proclaimed capital of Raqqa, U.S. Central Command officials reported today.

The SDF -- made up in (teeny, tiny) part by local Arabs and its coalition –rained-and-equipped Arab component, the Syrian Arab Coalition, and supported by coalition advisors and airstrikes -- began the operation to isolate Raqqa on Nov. 5, officials said.

In their march toward Raqqa, the SDF has liberated dozens of villages and more than 700 square miles of ISIL-held terrain, Centcom officials said, adding that local Arab fighters continue to join the SDF and fight to liberate their own land.

Proven Ability

During the initial phase of isolation efforts, officials said, the coalition’s Syrian partners have proven their ability in battle, pushing ISIL back and destroying ISIL heavy weapons, vehicles, fortifications, bomb-making facilities, vehicle bombs, armored vehicles, technical vehicles, bridges, decoys and caches.
The coalition supports the SDF through training, advise-and-assist operations, airstrikes and material support to the Syrian Arab Coalition, officials said. Since the start of the operation, they added, the coalition conducted more than 300 strikes delivering more than 850 munitions in support of its partners on the ground to enable the isolation of Raqqa and defeat of ISIL in Syria”All typos belong to Centcom

Related: There must be an issue with manpower and a sense of urgency?

Carter Pledges Extra US Forces 
Transcript from Video

 NATURAL ROUGH CUT - NO REPORTER NARRATION The United States will send 200 additional military personnel including special forces to the campaign against Islamic State in Syria to create a "tornado" of pressure against the group's Raqqa hub, U.S. Defense Secretary Ash Carter said on Saturday (December 10). Carter, speaking in Bahrain to regional security chiefs, twinned the announcement with a call on Middle East allies to do more for their own defence, a sore topic with some Gulf states who resent being seen by Washington as military "free riders". The arrival of the 200 additional forces in Syria, joining 300 special forces already there backing local allies, would bring to bear the "full weight of U.S. forces around the theatre of operations like the funnel of a giant tornado", Carter said at the Manama Dialogue security conference.  500 American troops in total

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Syria Recovers 98% Of Aleppo City- Operation is in Final Stages

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Mon, 12/12/2016 - 08:10
Good news for Syria!
Syrian forces on Monday managed to reclaim several more areas from Takfiri terrorists in eastern Aleppo, and are now only steps away from the full liberation of the embattled northwestern city. Link According to Tasnim dispatches, the army troops and their allies seized control of the areas of Karem al-Afandi, Karem al-Da’da, al-Salehin, and al-Firdous on Monday after inflicting major losses on the terrorists in eastern neighborhoods of Aleppo.
The forces are now advancing toward Jiser al-Hajj, al-Jlom, Bab al-Maqam, al-Firdous and Qal’et al-Sahreef. The report added that the Syrian government forces are now in control of nearly 98 percent of eastern Aleppo. The latest developments came after the army wrested back Sheikh Saeed, a major district in the eastern sector. The Syrian military, which is in control of the western part of the city, has been fighting to wrest back its militant-held east.Global News-
 The Syrian military said on Monday it has gained control of 98 per cent of eastern Aleppo, previously a rebel-held enclave, leaving only a small sliver of territory in the city packed with rebels and civilians who are being squeezed under fire.

The military statement came hours after Syrian forces, aided by Shiite militias from Lebanon, Iraq and Iran, took Sheik Saeed, one of the largest neighbourhoods in the southern part of the rebel territory, tightening the noose on the enclave.

The military also said its multi-pronged ground offensive on Monday captured the al-Fardous neighbourhood, one of the most populated districts to the north of Sheik Saeed.

 Western media the likes of Guardian, Global News  (3 paragraphs above) in Canada etc fill their article with fake concerns for civilians- UK and Canada didn't care one whit about civilians. Except to use them for their weaponized migration plans

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Snouts in the Trough, Hooves in the Till: Why You Shouldn't Donate to a Police Charity

freedominourtime - Sun, 12/11/2016 - 23:34

Tax-subsidized embezzlers: Mark and Sara Furniss

To understand why the public cannot confide in government-employed police to protect private property, it is useful to consider how frequently police steal from each other – and members of the public who ingenuously donate to police-operated charities. This isn’t because police officers are under-paid; it is because their occupation cultivates a sense of privilege and contempt for other people’s property. 
The median annual household income in Idaho is roughly $49,000. Mark Furniss, 46, was making almost $20,000 a year in excess of that figure when he resigned from his job as a Boise Police Officer on October 20, the same day that he and his wife Sara filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy. At the time, Sara was employed as a “safe schools assistant” in the recently created West Ada School District. 
Together, Mark and Sara Furniss easily cleared $100,000 a year in salary and benefits, which is more than enough for their family of four to enjoy a very comfortable lifestyle in Boise. Yet Mark and Sara allegedly used their positions as president and office manager, respectively, with Treasure Valley Lodge #11 of the Fraternal Order of Police to embezzle$73,000 over a five-year period.   
The couple’s pilferage from the FOP’s accounts was noticed no later than February, which is when he was confronted by the organization’s president over his use of a union credit card to buy tickets to a Pittsburgh Pirates game and make more than $500 in personal purchases at a department store. A forensic audit was conducted, which quickly discovered that Mrs. Furniss had been systematically overpaying herself (she drew a salary from the FOP), misusing a lodge credit card, and had caused hundreds of dollars in overdraft fees. She later disclosed to investigators that she had set up an automatic withdrawal from an FOP account to pay the family’s cable television bill.
Detective Gary Marang of the Nampa Police Department, which has investigated the matter to avoid a conflict of interest, recalled in an affidavit that the couple also used FOP funds to make a $2,700 down payment on a travel trailer. They most likely intended to make use of that trailer to flee the jurisdiction: After filing for bankruptcy on October 20 (listing the FOP as among the “creditors” who would be stiffed by them), Mr. and Mrs. Furniss reportedly planned to head north to Alaska in search of a “fresh start.” 
Like countless others, the Mark and Sara rode the housing bubble and fell hard in 2008 when it burst. Their financial disclosure form lists a total of $572,992 in assets, including a Meridian home valued at $230,000. Their estimated liabilities are $384,095, which includes “more than a dozen credit cards and five charge accounts,” observes the Idaho Statesman. They had also purchased two expensive late-model SUVs. Despite the fact that they both drew very generous tax-subsidized salaries, they listed their monthly income at $869, with $5,742 in monthly expenses. Perhaps the most shocking line item in the form was the disclosure that the total value of the family’s checking accounts was $864. 
In the two weeks prior to the couple’s November 25 arrest, their FOP chapter had collected more than $73,000 through a GoFundMe account to raise money for three officers – two humans and a “K9 officer” – who were wounded in a shootout with a fugitive. It would have been useful for the public to know that the people in charge of the lodge’s finances had embezzled nearly an identical amount. Nice tie, Mike. Mark and Sara have two very young children, a fact that will be taken into account when they are given the customary Blue Privilege discount at sentencing time. Former Richfield, Ohio police officer Michael Simmons benefited from official leniency when his own longstanding embezzlement from the local FOP was discovered. 
Simmons has confessed to stealing more than $26,000 the FOP’s “Shop with a Cop” program, which is used to buy Christmas gifts for poor children. 
One might expect to see exemplary punishment imposed on someone who committed a Dickensian offense of that kind. One would be wrong to do so, when the offender is a member of the state’s enforcement caste. 
As was the case with Mark and Sara Furniss, Simmons squandered  money raised for charitable purposes on personal expenses and luxuries, including electronics, clothing, tools, and tickets to sporting events. Rather than being sent to prison for felony theft, the 42-year-old Simmons was given an 18-month suspended jail sentence, two years of probation, and 500 hours of community service. He will also be required to pay back only $15,000 of the money he stole, so full restitution – which is the only legitimate punishment for a crime against property – will not be required. According to Richfield, Ohio Police Chief Keith Morgan, one reason Simmons won’t be required to pay back the full amount is because “the program’s lax bookkeeping made it difficult to pin down exactly how much was stolen and how much went to legitimate purchases,” reportsthe Akron Beacon Journal. 
Simmons’s attorney, Mark Guidetti, says that the judge’s very generous terms will allow Simmons to move on with his life and get another job. Now that he is tagged with a fourth-degree felony, it’s likely that he won’t find another gig involving a gun, badge, and qualified immunity. 

Embezzlement from FOP lodges is stunningly commonplace. One would expect that law enforcement officers, zealous for the honor of their coercive fraternity, would inflict exemplary punishment on those within their ranks who steal from their comrades in the brotherhood. As with so many other offenses, however, “professional courtesy” applies even to those who can’t keep their snouts out of the FOP’s trough. 
Former Hernando County, Florida Sheriff’s Deputy Michael Glatfelter was given five years’ probation after siphoning away $14,000 from the local FOP lodge – and more than $1,000 from a special fund established to benefit the family of a colleague who had died in an on-duty traffic accident. Struthers, Ohio Patrolman Thomas Granchie was allowed to resign without facing administrative charges after he admitted to stealing nearly $5,000 from his FOP lodge in 2007.  Judge William Kobelak spoke sympathetically of  Granchie as he sentenced the thirty-year veteran officer to 90 days house arrest for what should – and would – have been felony theft if committed by a Mundane.
“I want to look at him as a person with both good and bad things in his life;” Judge Kobelak said, apparently treating Granchie’s decades of service to the murderous abstraction called the “State” as extenuation for his self-serving felonious conduct. “This black cloud hanging over his head is always going to be there.”
Actually, that black cloud dissipated very rapidly. It was Granchie’s tax victim-provided police pension that proved to be permanent; this was made possible when the court dismissed the felony count and allowed the thief to plead guilty to a single charge of misdemeanor theft. Such conduct is to be expected wherever large pools of money are entrusted to people who are clothed in “qualified immunity.”
The state-allied pharmaceutical industry, it is partners in the prison-industrial complex, constitute the real "drug cartel" -- this week's Freedom Zealot Podcast:



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Turkey Seeks To End NATO Patrols In Aegean Sea

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Sun, 12/11/2016 - 17:26
Thought this interesting. Turkey wants NATO patrols to end- 

Daily Sabah: December 08/2016
Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu said on Tuesday night that their aimed goals have "actually been complied with" and thus the operation should come to an end.

The question of whether NATO patrols in the Aegean Sea will continue "cannot be answered positively at the moment," German foreign minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier said on Wednesday.

The mission started in February and was not appointed with a clear ending date. It aimed to uncover the network of routes used for human trafficking and to register movements of refugee boats in the Aegean Sea.

All collected data was forwarded to Turkish and EU authorities, as well as to the European border agency Frontex. NATO itself does not take action against human trafficking in the sea. Especially since Turkey saw the NATO patrols as a way of effective controls of its coasts. Theoretically, it needs approval of all NATO members to end the operation. However, Turkey can reject the continuation of the patrols along their coasts, which would paralyze the process.If Turkey really did see the NATO patrols as an effective means of control why would they wish to end them? Is this one way of distancing themselves from NATO? I don't know. Seems odd.

From Earlier:
Istanbul Bomb Blasts- TAK/PKK Takes Ownership 
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Istanbul Bomb Blasts- TAK/PKK Takes Ownership

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Sun, 12/11/2016 - 16:21
 Another incident, part of the ongoing destabilization campaign being waged against Turkey.
The attacks on Turkey are part of the larger middle east/north africa remake.

The strikes were obvious attacks on security services and civilians.
 At a time when Turkey can ill afford to lose police or military forces and have more of their citizens targeted.  These types of attacks ALWAYS undermine the confidence in the government of the day. As they are intended to do.

I’ve written for years about the destabilization of Turkey- The multi faceted attacks against this nation- Like Syria. Like Libya. Featuring an armed insurrection. Financial warfare.  Turkish people managed to get through an attempted coup- Also not contrived.












TAK/PKK/YPG took credit.. Ya know the alphabet soup of Kurdish militant groups
Swirl it around and make a new name..

We've talked TAK previously, more then once actually, but if your unfamiliar....

ABCPKKYPGTAKURDISISPJAKXYZ

NBC News
 In a statement posted on its website, the Kurdistan Freedom Falcons, or TAK, said two of its members had sacrificed their lives in the Saturday night attack that targeted security forces outside a stadium shortly after the conclusion of a soccer match.

"Two of our comrades were heroically martyred in the attack," the statement read. It said the attack was reprisal for state violence in the southeast and the ongoing imprisonment of Abdullah Ocalan, the leader of the Kurdistan Workers' Party or PKK. TAK is considered by authorities as a PKK offshoot. Kurdish Militants Claim Istanbul Attack

The Kurdish TAK group claimed responsibility for the attack against the Besiktas Stadium in Istanbul on Saturday evening. The Kurdistan Freedom Falcons (TAK) issued a statement on Sunday, a national day of mourning after Saturday’s attack.TAK say's they are going to create more terror:

UPDATE: PKK-affiliated TAK group claims responsibility for Istanbul attack, more violence expected in Turkey

A member of the PKK-affiliated People's Defense Forces (HPG). File photo: Vice  Those images just give me the warm fuzzies

“The simultaneous action in Istanbul Vodafone Arena Stadium and Maçka was conducted by our Team Martyr Tirej at 22:30 on 10 December, 2015. Two comrades of ours bravely fell martyr as a result of this action which left some 100 police dead and hundreds of others wounded,” the TAK said in a statement.
“The Turkish people are not a direct target of TAK. Our Team Martyr Tirej carried out this action with utmost attention.”
The Kurdish group says Turkey should not expect any stability with the ongoing imprisonment of PKK-leader Abdullah Ocalan and the ‘ongoing AKP facism’ by the ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP).
“However, no comfortable life should be expected in Turkey while the imprisonment of Leader Apo continues, the Turkish-AKP fascists torture mothers, expose the bodies of young girls and massacre children in Kurdistan on a daily basis. The peoples of Turkey should say enough to this fascism because only the AKP fascism is responsible for this chaos,” the group said. “Second, the TAK and the PKK have an interest in showing that despite everything that Erdogan said would bring Turkey stability........Turkey has less stability than before,” Romano said.

Not a false flag perpetrated by the AKP or Erdogan. Less stability is  not in their interest.
No more then it was in Assad's interest.
No more then it was in Gadaffi's interest.
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