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In your opinion, have humans been to the moon and back? If you'd like, elaborate with a comment.

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Fri, 09/04/2009 - 23:32 — newjesustimes
Definitely
17% (2 votes)
Most likely
17% (2 votes)
Maybe yes and maybe no
42% (5 votes)
Probably not
25% (3 votes)
Definitely Not
0% (0 votes)
Total votes: 12

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Sat, 09/05/2009 - 00:41 — newjesustimes
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And now for something completely different...

figured it was kind of quiet here, and after spending too many minutes reading the comments here: http://gizmodo.com/5352410/indian-probe-takes-clear-photo-of-apollo-15-h... I was wondering what you all think?

Sun, 09/06/2009 - 01:34 — Anonymous (not verified)

My vote is:

Who the fuck CARES?

Sun, 09/06/2009 - 23:22 — McJ
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Hi NJT Pretty quiet around

Hi NJT smiling

Pretty quiet around the place lately. I'm still swamped with life but hope to get back to blogging soon. I don't know about you guys but it seems like a lot of the lives of the people around me are falling apart - like there is disaster in the air. H-m-m-m.

I really don't know anything about the lunar landing but I have heard it was faked. Considering what we know about 911 I wouldn't rule out the possibility. I voted maybe yes, maybe no - so I'll be sitting on the fence. I'd be interested to hear if anyone has info about it. I couldn't really see anything in that photo that would end any conspiracy theories. It kinda reminded me of those ridiculous pictures they released that were supposed to prove that a plane hit the Pentagon.

And Anonymous - why did you bother if you don't care?

"The most unpleasant truth in the long run is a far safer traveling companion than the most agreeable falsehood." Emerson

Mon, 09/07/2009 - 10:48 — admin
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Who the F cares

Anonymous, Is your question:
1) who cares what i think?
or
2) who cares if humans went to the moon or back?

Apparently I care, or mainly, I am curious.

My opinion on (2) has changed as I read different theories and arguments. I think a couple of the best arguments are
1) At the height of the cold war, would the Americans have risked the tragic embarrassment of leaving 2 men crashed & dead on the moon while the whole world watched?
and
2) The US president made a bold announcement in 1961: The country would put men on the moon by the end of the decade. In eight short years the goal was (supposedly) accomplished. In 2004, the US president made a bold announcement. America would return men to the moon by 2018. Now why is it that with 1960's technology, America was able to accomplish this feat in eight years, yet with 2004 technology, the time to accomplish the task was projected to be 14 years?

There are many debates about deadly radiation, windless flag-waving, and odd statements by astronauts who allegedly walked on the moon. I'm not convinced one way or the other.

But I agree, after 9/11 (and JFK, for that matter) I would not be surprised in the least if the whole thing was staged.
-NJT

Sun, 09/06/2009 - 23:28 — McJ
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Mercy

This is the winner of the Danish 2009 X Factor, Linda Andrews, a gospel singer from the Faroe Islands singing Mercy. She is quite the singer. I thought you all might enjoy something different.

"The most unpleasant truth in the long run is a far safer traveling companion than the most agreeable falsehood." Emerson

Sun, 09/06/2009 - 23:39 — Winter

I've already said my bit

here: Did NASA Start The 'Moon Landing Was A Hoax' Hoax?

Sun, 09/06/2009 - 23:58 — McJ
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Interesting read Winter.

Interesting read Winter. Did they find something there they don't want us to know about? Did they go there knowing what they were going to find? Gurdjieff use to say we humans were "food for the moon". I'm not exactly sure what he meant by that (and I don't know a lot about his teaching) but from what little I know he got a lot of things right.

"The most unpleasant truth in the long run is a far safer traveling companion than the most agreeable falsehood." Emerson

Mon, 09/07/2009 - 19:42 — admin
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Yes interesting read Winter

But after reading it, I still am not sure of your opinion...
a NASA PR man introduced a man spreading the idea that the moon landings were a hoax, therefore the moon landings were not a hoax?

Mon, 09/07/2009 - 22:46 — Winter

my opinion:

a NASA PR man introduced a man spreading the idea that the moon landings were a hoax,

and therefore

nothing NASA says about the moon landing or its critics can possibly be believed.

Tue, 09/08/2009 - 00:25 — admin
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i concur

thanks for elaborating smiling
-NJT

Tue, 09/08/2009 - 11:47 — McJ
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me too

I concur as well. After all my years of copious reading I still haven't figured out what to believe about anything the government or media says. Slow learner i guess smiling . Figuring out what is going on in the world around us is like trying to piece together some ridiculously hard puzzle where most of the pieces look the same and a whole bunch of them are missing. You just want to say fuck it and throw the whole thing away but you can't because you know searching for those pieces that fit (ie searching for truth) is the single most important thing you can do in your life. Going back to the ignorance shared by almost every one around you (who hasn't even figured out there is a puzzle to be solved) is just not an option.

G-r-r-r I guess I'm a bit testy this morning, I've just been doing a bit of reading on a Swedish site about the fallout from the Israeli body-snatching (organ theft) scandal that one of their leading newspapers exposed. There are howls of antisemitism coming from all corners of the globe, the loudest ones from the Israeli government. The Swedish government refused to bow to the demands of the Israelis to apologize for the article and instead stated that it's against their constitution to violate the freedom of the press. The Swedish foreign minister had to cancel his visit to Israel over the row.
In case you haven't read it, the original article is at the link below.

"Our sons are plundered of their organs" by Donald Bostrom
http://www.aftonbladet.se/kultur/article5691805.ab

"The most unpleasant truth in the long run is a far safer traveling companion than the most agreeable falsehood." Emerson

Tue, 09/08/2009 - 12:41 — admin
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I'm with you McJ

Medieval blood libel or harsh reality? It's interesting how the Israelis don't really address the charges (since to do so would give them legitimacy?) but they go all out with the ad-hominem on everybody and anybody associated with the disclosure of the information and evidence. It may not be a practice organized by the state but it seems to be organized by somebody and fairly widespread given the news that's come out lately. If America declared war on Israel today it would only be about 42 years too late.
-NJT

Tue, 09/08/2009 - 20:23 — james

The Hen House

Welcome to the Hen House, McJ smiling
First comes the realization that the foxes are in charge.
Then comes the realization that no one wants to know.
Then comes the realization that there are "trustees" and "gatekeepers" amongst us hens.
I could go on!

And speaking of culling and gatekeepers, consider these stories and who is writing them and what that says-
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article10730.shtml
and repeated here-
http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2009/08/24/swedish-press-admits-no-proo...
(A friend fell for the "No Proof" compromise and had it twisted against her. Only a court can determine proof. Everyone else has evidence. But the media don't mention that).

Round two-
http://www.jkcook.net/Articles3/0418.htm#Top
(limited hang-out and drawing attention away from central issue that it is organised by the govt and is ongoing)
and faithfully reproduced here-
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article10753.shtml
and here-
http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2009/09/07/organ-theft-controversy-inte...

There's a pattern here.

Wed, 09/09/2009 - 02:15 — McJ
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I caught the Jonathan Cook

I caught the Jonathan Cook article and was going to link to it but I came here and you beat me to it! Thanks for your links. I really don't know where to put my thinking on this. It is one more horror to pile on the mountain of horrors I have accumulated over these past few years.

What chance is there that evidence will make it into the mainstream? And if it does who is going to here it over all the screaming? I won't be holding my breath that this will go anywhere.

Nancy Scheper-Hughes is a professor of anthropology at the University of California, who for many years was "involved in active field research on the global traffic in human organs, following the movement of bodies, body parts, transplant doctors, their patients, brokers, and kidney sellers, and the practices of organs and tissues harvesting in several countries - from Brazil, Argentina, and Cuba in Latin America to Israel and Turkey in the Middle East, to India, South Africa, and the United States." This is the report she presented to the House Subcommittee on International Operations and Human Rights, United States Congress on June 27, 2001. It was 8 years ago!

snip:
"Markets are inclined to reduce everything - including human beings, their labor and their reproductive capacity - to the status of commodities, things that can be bought, sold, traded, and stolen. And nowhere is this more dramatically illustrated than in the current markets for human organs and tissues to supply a medical business driven by "supply and demand. Bodily holism and integrity have given way to the divisible body and detachable organs as commodities, and as fetishized objects of desire and of consumption."
...
"Linda Johnson-Schuringa, from Orange, California...put her late husband's body into the care of the Orange County Eye and Tissue Bank, believing that his tissues and bone would alleviate the suffering of another person, only to discover later that the gift of her husband's bones had been shipped to Germany and "processed" into a dental product and sold internationally."

Re: the hen house
The stench is getting really bad in here. Do ya think you, me and the rest of the gang could find some nice planet to relocate to - where the air is a little nicer. smiling

I really appreciate having this home in cyberspace and you guys to talk to, I don't know what I would do with my head otherwise.

"The most unpleasant truth in the long run is a far safer traveling companion than the most agreeable falsehood." Emerson

Wed, 09/09/2009 - 02:53 — McJ
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A bit OT here but check out

A bit OT here but check out this deranged piece of pro settlement propoganda reported in Haretz.com.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1109504.html

Pro-Israel group: Obama settlements policy backs 'ethnic cleansing' of Jews
By Gilad Halpern
"A pro-Israel lobby group in the U.S. has launched a project intent on shifting the focus of the Obama administration away from West Bank settlements, claiming they are not an obstacle to peace and that their evacuation would amount to "ethnic cleansing."

horse-bleep

"The most unpleasant truth in the long run is a far safer traveling companion than the most agreeable falsehood." Emerson

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