Winter Patriot Community Blog

I remember reading these Chris Floyd articles way back when. Thanks for the refresher. I had forgotten.

Remember Cheney's smug mug in that Meet the Press interview just after September 11, 2001? Read the transcript at Whitehouse.gov if you really want to blow your top. Somehow, in that context, it does double-duty for me. It stimulates my gag reflex toward vomiting profusely, and it makes me want to spontaneously combust at the same time.

Not good for your stress level. I've taken up yoga again.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/vicepresident/news-speeches/speeches/vp2001091...

VICE PRES. CHENEY: I'm going to be careful here, Tim, because I--clearly it would be inappropriate for me to talk about operational matters, specific options or the kinds of activities we might undertake going forward. We do, indeed, though, have, obviously, the world's finest military. They've got a broad range of capabilities. And they may well be given missions in connection with this overall task and strategy.

We also have to work, though, sort of the dark side, if you will. We've got to spend time in the shadows in the intelligence world. A lot of what needs to be done here will have to be done quietly, without any discussion, using sources and methods that are available to our intelligence agencies, if we're going to be successful. That's the world these folks operate in, and so it's going to be vital for us to use any means at our disposal, basically, to achieve our objective.

MR. RUSSERT: There have been restrictions placed on the United States intelligence gathering, reluctance to use unsavory characters, those who violated human rights, to assist in intelligence gathering. Will we lift some of those restrictions?

VICE PRES. CHENEY: Oh, I think so. I think the--one of the by-products, if you will, of this tragic set of circumstances is that we'll see a very thorough sort of reassessment of how we operate and the kinds of people we deal with. There's--if you're going to deal only with sort of officially approved, certified good guys, you're not going to find out what the bad guys are doing. You need to be able to penetrate these organizations. You need to have on the payroll some very unsavory characters if, in fact, you're going to be able to learn all that needs to be learned in order to forestall these kinds of activities. It is a mean, nasty, dangerous dirty business out there, and we have to operate in that arena. I'm convinced we can do it; we can do it successfully. But we need to make certain that we have not tied the hands, if you will, of our intelligence communities in terms of accomplishing their mission.

MR. RUSSERT: These terrorists play by a whole set of different rules. It's going to force us, in your words, to get mean, dirty and nasty in order to take them on, right? And they should realize there will be more than simply a pinprick bombing.

VICE PRES. CHENEY: Yeah, the--I think it's--the thing that I sense--and, of course, that's only been a few days, but I have never seen such determination on the part of--well, my colleagues in government, on the part of the American people, on the part of our friends and allies overseas, and even on the part of some who are not ordinarily deemed friends of the United States, determined in this particular instance to shift and not be tolerant any longer of these kinds of actions or activities.

But but but, WP, there were only 11 terrorists, ten killed, one captured. Goodness they are clever.
The very first thing I thought when I heard about the Mumbai attacks was 'false flag', (been reading you and Chris too long :)]. Second thought why India? Then I read McJ's comment on a previous thread about CNN coverage and how they 'knew' who was responsible while attacks still on going. I am just full of questions that seem to have no answers that fit within the PTB scenarios. Then I realise, since when did anything they do really make sense. And the brain explodes..........

Thank you so much for starting this, looking forward to the next instalment.

Best wishes to you and your family.