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Thu, 03/06/2008 - 21:32 — Winter

I've been thinking about ways in which we can use this site to leverage whatever it is that we have going for us. Here's one possibility:

I've got research for half a dozen stories partially finished, but not getting anywhere. For reasons I can't get into here, nothing will happen with any of them unless I can recruit some assistance. So here's your chance!

If you're interested in throwing some time and energy into one or more of these projects, any of which could wind up being really depressing, speak up.

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Thu, 03/06/2008 - 23:20 — newjesustimes
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If I have some spare time I'll offer some up

I had actually wanted to work on a few new posts of my own that have been kicking around in my head but real world issues have kept me busy the past few days.
But I should have a few spare hours over the next day or two. So in that case I am at your service; I can take a crack at it if you need something researched, written or edited.

By the way, it looks like some elves or gremlins spruced up the place a little while I was out - looks nice.

Although other than that, it's pretty quiet around here, now that things picked up at the real racetrack again!

-NJT

Fri, 03/07/2008 - 12:23 — Arry

Stories/Action

Good idea, Winter. I hope you get some takers. In my own case, extensive research is not feasible because I have such a slow connection. Also, I am caring for a very ill relative which takes huge blocks of time (not to mention that, I face life or death situations every few weeks which are wearing me down and draining my energy.)

I believe another thing that could be done would be to devote a section of the blog to brainstorming solutions. We can't afford to wallow in the slough of depression or to assume we are powerless. It's up to us and we need to think big and expansively and be serious about our responsibilities as citizens and as humans.

Fri, 03/07/2008 - 17:34 — McJ
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I'd be willing to help

I'd be willing to help but it would most likely be in fits and spurts as life, finances and family responsibilities pull me in so many directions - but I imagine everyone is in a similar situation.
I find it most depressing to know what is happening while being helpless to change it. At least working toward bringing the information to the masses offers some positives. smiling

What did you have in mind and how would we go about doing it?

Perhaps someone knowledgeable could do a blog post on effective searching/googling as well as tips on organizing data.

I think there are some really good possibilities for this site if we can encourage others to pitch in and help.



"They say that patriotism is the last refuge to which a scoundrel clings. Steal a little and they put you in jail. Steal a lot and then they make you king"
Bob Dylan

Fri, 03/07/2008 - 14:21 — Winter

we have lots of possibilities

please don't read my blog

We could perhaps use this site for some collaborative research, developing a data-bank about a particular subject which could then be used as the background for an article or a series of articles about that issue, such articles to be presented on the main blog and linking back here for supporting evidence.

For instance I could post a URL and some arbitrary number of like-minded cold patriots might check out the site and post their comments; such comments could be used as a road-map for a possible future post on the subject.

Or I could ask some of you to watch a video and let me know what you think about it before I try to write about it; perhaps other instances of the same sort of approach would be beneficial ... much depends on who's into it and what they want to help out with; so that's why I'm asking such tentative questions...

I definitely like Arry's idea of setting up a place where people can talk about good ideas (especially ideas that work!!) but I'm not a good one for that job; I'm already too busy doing whatever ...

and in general, there are lots of other cool facilities at this site which we lack at my blog ... and if we don't even talk about trying to use their potential then we're a lot more foolish than I give us credit for.

so we should talk about that; and anyone interested in doing some longer-term back-burner stuff with me should send me email

winterpatriot@gmail.com

thanks a lot as always

Fri, 03/07/2008 - 17:20 — Kira

I'll Join the Effort

Yes. What can I do? Where's the list of what we can choose from?

..Kira

Truth is by nature self-evident. As soon as you remove the cobwebs of ignorance that surround it, it shines clear.
Mohandas Gandhi

Fri, 03/07/2008 - 17:40 — Kira

9/11 Section

I would like to see a section for 9/11 Research -- I'm limited to just a few minutes right now [maybe someone else could set it up?], but have some info to post & don't want it to get lost in comments.

Here's what I found:
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?t=13893

operator kos
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:57 am
Post subject: hijacker linked to U.S. defense contractor

A friend and I uncovered this a while ago, but I don't know if it's been made known to folks on this forum...

We all know by now that many of the alleged hijackers made no efforts to conceal their identities or activities as they moved about the country before 9/11, even though a number of them were already on terrorist watch lists, or were being closely monitored by programs like Able Danger.

This point is really hammered home by a document*1 from the Zacharias Moussaoui trial where there is a listing of real name usages by various hijackers. Among these, which I find quite hilarious, is the fact that Atta's e-mail address was mohamedatta@hotmail.com. Ziad Jarrah likewise used his real name, ziadjarrah@ab.com.

This latter e-mail address raises further curious questions: ab.com is the domain for Rockwell Automation, a major U.S. defense contractor. web.archive.org*2 confirms that ab.com has been Rockwell Automation's web domain since at least 1996. You can't just sign up for an address at ab.com like you can with hotmail or yahoo... they only give them out to employees.

*1 http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exhibits/prosecution...
*2 [url]http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://ab.com[/url]
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Fri, 03/07/2008 - 19:43 — McJ
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Research Sections

We could use the Forum to create research topics such as 911. Everyone would add the information they have collected to those threads. We can stop the squashed comments on those thread by only using the "Add new comment" option under the original post, or limiting ourselves to only 2 or 3 replies under any one comment before we 'adjust it back'. Then maybe NJT can add links to these 'Research' Forum Topics on the sidebar so they are easy to find. Another thing that may be helpful is if we could have the comments numbered for easy reference.

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Bob Dylan

Fri, 03/07/2008 - 20:35 — Kira

Sounds good

Hopefully there will be some way to prevent the shrinking column width in the future. Amazing how few comments it took to make it nearly unreadable.

So - we'll do the best we can do in the meantime!

Truth is by nature self-evident. As soon as you remove the cobwebs of ignorance that surround it, it shines clear.
Mohandas Gandhi

Fri, 03/07/2008 - 22:10 — McJ
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I've Been Thinking

I've been thinking it might be a good idea to have two threads for each research topic. The first one would be a thread dedicated to just posting the information and the other would be the comment section for that topic. That way it would be much easier to gather information from the 'dedicated research thread', with the only comments on it being those directly pertinent to the posted info. All other back and forth discussion would be in the 'comments thread' associated with the topic. Also, if we find the research threads are getting too big we may need to break them into categories. For instance, 911 could be broken up into Pentagon, WTC, Building 7, Shanksville etc. Each dedicated research thread could start with a post explaining what information was being gathered along with general guidelines for posting and a link to the comment thread for that topic.

That's my 2 cents for now. Maybe NJT will have some other ideas being the one who is looking from the inside out.
help, I`m sinking
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"They say that patriotism is the last refuge to which a scoundrel clings. Steal a little and they put you in jail. Steal a lot and then they make you king"
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Fri, 03/07/2008 - 22:45 — newjesustimes
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Glad to see the good ideas flowing!

i'm looking into the comment thing, there might be a couple options we can try, such as limiting the number of comments that appear on any one page.
As far as separate research sections and such, I think the Forums would be an appropriate place for 9/11 and sub-topics - we haven't done much with them yet, but I think that they'd be more appropriate than blogs for the ongoing R & D of specific subjects. I added a permission so authenticated users can administer forums, so feel free to create new forums. cool

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