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While the Cat's Away? Israel Plots Largest Settlement In SYRIAN Occupied Golan

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Tue, 11/29/2016 - 12:57
Still waiting for an answer to the question posed in today's earlier post? : Egyptian Troops in Syria? " These Allegations Exist Only In the Imagination Of Those Who Promote Them"
"The priority is that we support the national armies to impose control over the territory, deal with the extremists, and impose the necessary stability in Libya, Syria and Iraq," he said.

"When you refer to the National Army in Syria, do you mean the Syrian army?" the presenter asked, to which Sisi replied: "Yes." Can someone explain how it is that quoted statement turned into Egyptian boots on the ground in Syria?
 Israel Plots Largest Settlement Expansion in Occupied Syrian Golan since 1980


Al-Marsad: Arab Human Rights Center in the Golan announced, in a press release, that it has written to the European Union, European governments and the Permanent Members of the UN Security Council regarding Israel’s plans to expand Katrzin settlement and establish ‘Hermon National Park’ in the occupied Syrian Golan Heights.

The Israeli Finance Ministry approved plans to build 1,600 additional settlement units in Katzrin in October. About 8,000 settlers live in Katzrin atop the destroyed Syrian villages of Qasrin, Shqef and Sanawber. It is the largest settlement in the occupied Syrian Golan.

“This will be the largest expansion of an illegal Israeli settlement in the Occupied Syrian Golan since the 1980s,” a letter from Al-Marsad to the Delegation of the European Union to Israel reads.


Al-Marsad also calls attention to a second Israeli plan for the occupied Syrian Golan, called ‘Hermon National Park.’ The park depends on appropriating 25,000 acres (more than 82,000 dunams) of agricultural land used by residents of Majd al-Shams and Ein Qynia. Majd al-Shams stands to be particularly devastated by the plan: the park would surround the village from the north and west, thus prohibiting any future expansion of it and essentially besieging it. According to Al-Marsad, about 800 families living in Majd al-Shams are in urgent need of housing, but cannot secure an Israeli construction permit to build.Israel very big on refugee creation. Always.
In hopes of disrupting the plans, Al-Marsad calls on:
The international community to strongly condemn plans for the construction of 1,600 settlement units in the illegal settlement of Katzrin and the planned expropriation of Syrian land under the guise of the ‘Hermon National Park’ plan; and obtain binding commitments from Israel that it will stop these activities. The organization also “invites foreign governments and international organizations to send fact-finding missions to the Occupied Syrian Golan to witness, firsthand, the deteriorating human rights situation.” Israel forcibly transferred 130,000 Syrians from the Golan and destroyed 300 of its towns and villages in 1967 to clear the way for its ongoing illegal occupation.
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Egyptian Troops in Syria? " These Allegations Exist Only In the Imagination Of Those Who Promote Them"

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Tue, 11/29/2016 - 07:38
There’s a rumour going ‘round....

Discussed a bit here last week- Hubby and I searched and searched for verification of said rumour. Couldn't find it

November 23/2016-  Egypt unlikely to send military forces to Syria: Al-Sisi
Egypt is unlikely to send military forces to Syria, President Abdel Fattah Al-Sisi said on Tuesday, stressing that it would be better if Syria’s national army took sole responsibility for securing the country.
November 25/2016: Egypt has not sent troops to Syria: Military source


November 26/2013 : Egypt denies sending military troops to Syria after Al-Sisi explicitly supports Al-Assad

Qassem Al-Khatib, a member in the National Coalition of the Syrian Opposition, told Daily News Egypt that Egypt had not sent any military troops to Syria
November 27/2016: Egypt denies sending military troops to Syria

Egypt’s foreign ministry denied in a statement on Sunday the presence of Egyptian military troops in Syria, reiterating its commitment to non-intervention in internal affairs of other countries.

“These allegations exist only in the imagination of those who promote them,” foreign ministry’s statement read, stressing on Egypt’s commitment to the principle of non-interference in the internal affairs of other states.
Sputnik November 27/2016

Some Arab newspapers reported about Egyptian military presence in Syria," the statement published on the Foreign Ministry’s Facebook page read. "Egypt is committed to the principle of non-interference in the internal affairs of other countries."

Egyptian military has been accused of sending troops to the aid of the embattled Syrian government. Many Arab Gulf states support opposition forces in Syria. A Russian government spokesman said earlier this month he could not confirm reports that Egyptian soldiers were present in Syria.
Could this rumour have been started as a way to demonize Egypt? To cause discord amongst neighbours? Possible.

November 28/2016: Egypt denies it has a military presence in Syria

28 November 2016 13:46 Egypt Denies Presence of Egyptian Forces in Syria

 “The ministry refutes allegations of a number of the Arab mass media about the presence of the Egyptian military in the Syrian territory,” Foreign Ministry Spokesman Ahmed Abu Zeid said on Sunday.Local media outlets recently reported that Egyptian military forces have joined the conflict in Syria in support of the Assad.

“Such ungrounded allegations exist only in the minds of those who are spreading them and the purpose of such rumors is clear. Egypt will stay committed to the principle of non-interference into domestic affairs of other states"Wonder what the spokesperson meant when saying 'the purpose of such rumors is clear"?
I'll re-ask my previous question:  Could this rumour have been started as a way to demonize Egypt? To cause discord amongst neighbours? Possible.

The statement that caused the rumour mill to kick into high gear?

MEE
"The priority is that we support the national armies to impose control over the territory, deal with the extremists, and impose the necessary stability in Libya, Syria and Iraq," he said.

"When you refer to the National Army in Syria, do you mean the Syrian army?" the presenter asked, to which Sisi replied: "Yes."
Can someone explain how it is that quoted statement turned into Egyptian boots on the ground in Syria?
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"Justice Has No Expiration Date": The Continued Wrongful Imprisonment of Chris Tapp

freedominourtime - Mon, 11/28/2016 - 12:57


Scenes from the Tapp hearing: Bonneville County DA Clark (left), ADA Dewey, Public Defender Thomas.


There were about twenty people gathered in an Idaho Falls courtroom on November 22 for a hearing about Christopher Tapp’s appeal for post-conviction relief. That Tapp is serving a life sentence for a murder he didn’t commit was known by everyone in that room. Two of them, Bonneville County Prosecuting Attorney Daniel Clark and deputy Prosecutor John Dewey, were there in an attempt to convince Judge Alan Stephens that the truth didn’t matter, and that justice must be subordinated to “process.”
Judge Stephens’s proper role, Dewey argued, was to act as a “gatekeeper,” rather than to permit a critical examination of a conviction that an official report commissioned by the prosecutor’s officehas now acknowledged is entirely the product of a spurious confession. Nationally accredited experts on police interrogation have likewise concluded that Tapp’s confession was achieved through tactics that were tantamount to psychological torture.  A few weeks ago, Judge Stephens ruled that Tapp’s appeal could proceed because of evidence that the prosecution had withheld videotaped polygraph examinations in which IFPD Detective Stephen Finn manipulated Tapp into a false confession. Finn had convinced Tapp that the polygraph machine was something akin to a comprehensive archive of objective facts about the July 1996 murder of 18-year-old Angie Dodge. Those “facts” comported with whatever theory of the case was in favor with the IFPD at any given time. 
The initial theory was that a friend of Tapp’s, a young man named Ben Hobbs who had been arrested in Ely, Nevada for rape, was the murderer. Tapp and another friend named Jeremy Sargis were identified as potential witnesses. Along with Hobbs, each of them gave DNA samples to the police. Sargis was the son of a wealthy and influential family who could afford competent legal representation – which is why he resolutely refused to speak with the police after his DNA sample cleared him as a suspect. Chris and Verna Tapp. Tapp, a high school dropout, was more pliant. He was interrogated by former IFPD Sergeant Jared Fuhriman, who had become acquainted with Tapp while serving as a school resource officer and DARE instructor. With the calculated, sociopathic opportunism of a child molester, Fuhriman groomed Tapp and relentlessly exploited him, playing on the 20-year-old’s ingenuous trust and assuring him that all the police really wanted was his cooperation in identifying the man who had killed one of his friends. 
The original IFPD plan was to set the three friends off against each other. That scheme collapsed after Sargis and Hobbs were both ruled out as suspects by the genetic evidence. Tapp was also cleared. However, because he was willing to talk to the police – a mistake nobody should ever make – he was the one left without a chair when the music stopped. 
Because he had regurgitated lies told to him by his police captors, Tapp lost his immunity agreement. His mother, Verna, became alarmed over what was happening and told Chris that he was not to submit to any further interrogation without an attorney being present. When it became known to Fuhriman that the victim of his mental molestation was seeking help from a trusted adult, he arrested Chris on a contrived charge of “harboring a fugitive” – a charge that presumes the existence of a murderer other than Chris. 
Tapp was not the suspect that Angie Dodge or her traumatized family deserved, but he was the one the IFPD and the Bonneville Prosecutor’s Office needed. Rather than trying to solve the case by finding the murderer, the police and then-County Attorney Kip Manwaring decided to clear the case with the suspect that they had in custody. Fuhriman and his comrades fed Tapp critical details about the crime, at one point taking him to the crime scene in a visit that was not recorded or memorialized in any way. Then they used the details they had fed to their victim to incriminate him in a crime of which he had no independent knowledge. 
The role played by polygraph specialist Finn was critical. Tapp was told that his denials registered deception – which was a lie – and that his self-incriminating statements were truthful – another deliberate lie. Over the course of several coercive polygraph “examinations,” Finn told Tapp that even if he had participated in the assault on Dodge, he could avoid the death penalty if he made a confession. Acting purely out of fear for his life, Tapp provided the IFPD with that confession. In doing so he presented a story that still didn’t comport with the evidence: He didn’t accurately describe the clothing worn by the victim, or the nature of her wounds. 
“The appellate public defender had the files of Tapp’s trial attorney, Robert Booker,” Tapp’s current attorney John Thomas recalls in a motion presented on November 22.  “In those files were found two video cassette boxes that contained four (4) Tapp polygraph videos. These four polygraph videos had not been previously identified as being produced.”
Three of the videos documented sessions that were clearly “coercive” in nature. One of them, according to Finn’s sworn testimony, did not exist. 
While the videotapes were in the trial attorney’s files, “they had not been `disclosed’” by the prosecution, Thomas contends. “In effect, they were hidden. By negligence or design, their existence was kept secret from the defense.” One of the most damaging of the coercive interrogations, as Thomas demonstrated to me from records he shared during a brief interview in his office, had been artfully mislabeled in order to minimize its importance. 

It was after Judge Stephens’s recent ruling in September that Tapp’s appellate attorney, John Thomas, found that videotape in the discovery file. He immediately alerted deputy prosecutor John Dewey regarding what he had found, and cleared time in his schedule so that the two of them could watch it together. 
If Thomas had acted with the same ethical indifference that has been displayed by the Bonneville Prosecutor’s Office, he would have concealed his discovery from the prosecution, rather than making a full disclosure of what he had found. In keeping with the abysmal standards of the office that employs him, Dewey capitalized on Thomas’s good faith by accusing him, during the November 22 hearing, of seeking to perpetrate a “fraud on the court” and demanding that Tapp’s appeal be dismissed.
Thomas allowed carefully modulated yet well-earned outrage to color his presentation to Judge Stephens. Addressing the prosecution’s claim that Tapp’s appeal was barred by time limitations, Thomas declared that “Justice does not have an expiration date.”
“An innocent man is sitting in prison,” while the prosecution continues its relentless obstructionism. If the Bonneville County justice system – such as it is – forecloses the possibility that Tapp will receive long-deferred due process, “That will be the day I turn my bar card in, because this court would not deserve my representation,” Thomas defiantly declared. 
Sitting next to me during Thomas’s argument was Carol Dodge, the victim’s mother, who has spent the last twenty years diligently investigating that crime. She has become Christopher Tapp’s most effective and impassioned advocate, and a close friend of his long-suffering mother, Verna. In the hallway outside the courtroom prior to the November 22 hearing, Carol and Verna embraced each other as if they were sisters, which, in a sense, they have become: They belong to sorority of mothers whose children have been taken from them through criminal violence – Angie through murder, Christopher through state-licensed kidnapping. 

“The prosecution has all the advantages,” Carol whispered to me during Thomas’s presentation, her voice heavy with bitter frustration. “If they have the power to hold an innocent man in prison, do they have the power to breathe life back into my daughter?” she continued, sobbing the final syllables of that anguished inquiry. 
Judge Stephens announced that he would be submitting a written ruling at some unspecified time in the future. Meanwhile, Tapp remains a prisoner of the Bonneville County Prosecutor’s arrogant intransigence.
As County Prosecutor Clark departed the courtroom, I noticed that his right arm was in a sling. Gesturing to his injured appendage, I asked Clark if “this happened while you were wrestling with your conscience – and winning.” 
Clark’s shoulders slumped, and after an awkward moment he replied that he had hurt himself in a dirt bike accident. That explanation struck me as plausible: I had foolishly assumed that Clark’s conscience would be strong enough to put up much of a fight.


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Betraying Turkey:Germany & US Leaving Incirlik/ Pulling Out Personnel/Scouting Alternative Locales

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Mon, 11/28/2016 - 11:01
As the betrayal of Turkey progresses....NATO allies? Not so much.
RescueNovember 27, 2016 at 10:53 PMPenny, you should write a post about Germany removing their military from Incirlik. They are trying to gain access to Jordanian bases instead.
Turkey refuses Germany a permanent presence at the base, because of their support for the PKK.
I think its an important story, not reported and talked about enough. Replies

  1. PennyNovember 28, 2016 at 5:57 AMI've seen some of the news about Germany and Incirlik
    If Germany is heading for Jordan it tells us much about the next target for destabilization- Saudi Arabia.  
All the latest

It appears Germany is looking to make alternative NATO arrangements. Just like their US counterparts. Oh are you one of those that believes, despite all the publicly available information, that the US and Turkey are on the same page? If so the information below will cause you a bit more cognitive dissonance.  Before you turn your nose up to the information contained within this posting, consider the reality, the fact, that one can glean information & dot connect from open public sources of information as was clearly stated by  Allen Dulles many years ago.
"More than 80 percent of intelligence is obtained from open sources." Allen W. Dulles Allen Dulles stated more then 80 percent of intelligence is openly sourced. That is through information that is publicly available, gathered, put through a rational thought process in order to connect dots cohesively. Certainly Allen Dulles was speaking from experience.

Germany explores alternatives to Turkey's Incirlik air base

DW
As relations between Ankara and Berlin deteriorated, Germany began looking for alternatives to the Incirlik Air Base in southern Turkey in at least three other Middle Eastern countries.

The Kurdistan Region, whose Erbil airport acts as a key logistical support base for the US-led Coalition forces in the fight against the Islamic State (IS), was not among the options for Germans.

Incirlik base was one of the theaters the putschists operated from, flying aerial refueling jets for warplanes that bombed critical targets at the Turkish capital of Ankara, including the Parliament and President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s palace.Turkish authorities subsequently cut all power lines to Incirlik and imposed a ban on Coalition flights there. The Base’s Turkish Commander General Bekir Ercan Van was arrested and jailed two days later.Last month, an American national security site, Defense One, said the US should get ready to walk away from IncirlikUPDATED WITH LINK  and excerpt from Defense One article:
 
Closing paragraph from: Get Ready to Walk Away from Incirlik
" Ideally, seeking out alternatives to Incirlik will minimize the possibility that Washington is ever forced to exercise them.  If Washington has options, Turkey will face the possibility that threatening to throw American forces out could backfire, leaving the country even more strategically isolated. In short, a little foresight and planning could turn Incirlik from a source of Turkish leverage over America to a source of American leverage over Turkey"Incirlik: Leverage
"It is too early to say whether it will become necessary to withdraw our forces from Incirlik," the spokesman told "Bild." Any relocation, however, would likely take "several weeks," in which time the Tornado reconnaissance jets would be out of action.The German air force planes aren’t currently flying combat missions.
The German planes aren’t currently flying combat missions- that should make it easier to leave once new digs are found.

I’ve discussed the US prepping to walk away from Turkey and Incirlik on multiple occasions

September 10/2016 Should US Pull Personnel out of Turkey After Coup Attempt ? - Betraying Turkey
WASHINGTON- A powerful California lawmaker wants Congress to consider moving U.S. personnel and military equipment out of Turkey into other Middle Eastern countries in the wake of an attempted coup in Turkey in July"
Previous mentions regarding US Personnel being moved..

March 29/2016: Military families out of Turkey
September 03/2015: Pentagon Offers Evacuation to 900 US Military Dependents in Turkey
Finding alternative basing options for U.S. personnel and military assets is necessary given that the relationship between the United States and Turkey has become increasingly strained, Schanzer said. “Whether it’s flirting with the Russians, whether it’s flirting with the Iranians, challenging American foreign policy, you know, making it difficult for Incirlik to operate, shutting down counter-ISIS operations over that short period of time – these are the sort of things that should be viewed as a red flag,” he said. “Not necessarily a defining moment where we need to move now, but again, a red flag, and one that should be an indication to military planners that contingency plans should be made.”Making Germany's actions part of a coordinated plan

Germany & the PKK: Austria and prepping the narrative for EMBARGO/SANCTIONs

"A Hamburg court made reference to the PKK's so-called fight against Daesh since 2013 and praised the "political struggle" of the PKK terrorists in a scandalous statement.

Since the terrorist organization became a perfect tool for the German government regarding its regional chessboard, some unbelievable decisions have been taken by the German administration.

While Germany acts as a locomotive in its actions against Turkey, other leading members of the 28-nation union play the role of "concerned friends for the ‘bien-etre' of their ally."

However, they delegate some smaller members to put mines and barriers in front of Turkey, concerning its relationship with the union.

The decision by the Austrian parliament to ban weapons sales to Turkey can be evaluated within this framework. Since Austria is not a reference country for weapons sales, it is just trying the make the public become accustomed to the use of the word "embargo" in the same sentence as "Turkey."

A recent report by the European Parliament proposing the end of accession talks between the EU and Turkey is just a recent link in the chain of this "carrots and sticks" policy.

It is clear that the EU leaders' summit to convene in mid-December will not end with the decision to halt accession talks with Turkey.

The success of the Turkish people to overcome the coup attempt on July 15 and the strong attachment of the Turkish people to President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is the main matter of concern for the EU. To be frank, the EU is frustrated with the failure of the coup attempt. That is why there has been an unbelievable level of support given to everybody who is against Turkey"I've stated for two years now the US led NATO is betraying Turkey- That fact seems more and more apparent as time goes on.

From Earlier:
Jay Dyer: Esoteric Hollywood: How to Destroy the Entertainment-Industrial Complex
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Jay Dyer: Esoteric Hollywood: How to Destroy the Entertainment-Industrial Complex

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Mon, 11/28/2016 - 10:05
Worth a listen.
"We begin by discussing Hollywood: its history, significance, and, most importantly, how to destroy it. Jay references Plato, who argued that you cannot have complete freedom of the arts because degeneracy can harm society. Jay also relates this to democracy, explaining that an elite can, through the arts, make man easier to control by appealing to his base desires. We discuss the fact that film has, since its inception, been linked to powerful interests, such as the military and the mafia. We consider the nature of culture, and how it must be altered prior to any political change; Hollywood, having the ability to influence one’s perception of reality, has a played a significant role in this process. The first hour also covers spirit cooking, Satanism, and #Pizzagate"
Thanks to Red Ice Creations for providing one hour of this interview


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Breaking: Blasts Heard In Kurdish Training Camp. US & British Instructors Present?

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Sat, 11/26/2016 - 19:48
Related to earlier reporting or upping the ante?


TASS:
ANKARA, November 27. /TASS/. Several blasts rocked training camps of paramilitary units of the Kurdish Democratic Union Party in the Syrian province of Khaseke in Tel Tamer on Saturday, Anadoly Agency reported. The report said there several people were killed and wounded in the accident. According to the agency, there were the US and British military instructors in the camp. The facility was formed by the Democratic Union in 2013, for training the Kurdish militia. The trainings have been performed by US instructors since last year.
The Democratic Union is regarded as a terrorist organization in Turkey. Connected? I don't know? But worth mentioning

 Official: Loud Blast in Southern Turkey May Have Been Military Jets


A loud blast heard in Gaziantep, in southeastern Turkey near the Syrian border, may have been caused by jets taking part in Turkish military efforts in nearby northern Syria, Turkish officials said late Friday.
Police and firefighting teams investigated the sound, according to Turkey's Anadolu news agency.
The Gaziantep Province governor's office released a statement that said the incident caused no injuries, deaths or property damage.
"This sound could have been caused by warplanes involved in the Euphrates Shield operation going over the usual noise limit. We will give further details later," the governor said.
Tensions are high in Gaziantep. The area borders Syria where Turkish troops have taken part in military efforts to push Islamic State (IS) militants and Kurdish militia from the region.Previously
 From earlier and now updated:
Friday's news:  Thursday:
  • Southfront: No Confirmation Of Syrian Strikes on Turkish Mil- One Year Anniversary Date Russian Jet ShootdownAdditional commentary and information
  •  RescueNovember 26, 2016 at 3:50 PMThe US was behind the attack on the Turkish troops, (I'm not excluding Syrian collusion) & Turkey retaliated with the attack in Hasakah today. At least 5 US soldiers died.
    Assad is openly courting the US, hoping Trump will be an ally. That is why they are taking a hostile stance against Turkey, and scapegoating Erdogan for the war.
    I'm also worried, because Syria is not acting rationally. Teaming up with the SDF to capture Al-Bab is a fatal decision, that Syria will suffer with for a long time.
    Clearly, Russia & Syria have also fallen out, over what I don't entirely know. I suspect it might have been because of the latest jihadi offensive against Aleppo, where Russia withheld air support, allegedly because of a deal with Erdogan. After that, the relationship between the parties in the Syrian war changed. 


    greencrowNovember 26, 2016 at 4:32 PMHi Penny:

    Perhaps THIS is why Putin and Erdogan have so much to talk about:
    http://www.conspiracyoutpost.com/topic/17831-media-silent-as-house-passes-resolution-for-syrian-no-fly-zone-%E2%80%94-provoking-war-with-russia/
Consider the thoughts others are sharing... Rescue makes some good points particularly with regard to Aleppo- Russia wasn't 'all in' on it- For what ever reason? Bad PR etc., They left it up to Syria.
Maybe Syria didn't need the assistance. Taking Aleppo is ugly work.

I agree that it was the US that attacked the Turkish troops- The US made clear they were displeased with Turkey's operation and were officially distancing themselves from it. If Syria is teaming up with the Kurds- Bad move. It is a mistake they will pay dearly for and suggests Syria's leadership is accepting some degree of  balkanization.

Nothing is ever black and white. There are many shades of grey.
Greencrow has raised the spectre of the no fly zone, yet again-
I'm very saddened to read that :(
That will affect Turkey

As the middle east/north africa remake marches on... Yes, this is bigger then Syria. As repeatedly stated here!
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Putin and Erdogan: Two Talks in Two Days- Oh to be a fly on the wall....

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Sat, 11/26/2016 - 16:36
MOSCOW, November 26. /TASS/.

Russian President Vladimir Putin had a phone talk with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Saturday, focusing on Syria, the Kremlin press service said.

"Today, President of the Russian Federation V.V. Putin had a telephone conversation with President of the Turkish Republic Recep Tayyip Erdogan, continuing to exchange opinions on the situation in Syria," the statement said.
The conversation was the second between the two leaders in the past two days. On Friday, Putin and Erdogan had a phone conversation about the Syria crisis and the joint efforts in the fight against terrorism. The Kremlin said that they had exchanged opinions in an encouraging tonality.

Wondering if Putin initiated today's exchange? It seems likely since no mention of who took the initiative unlike yesterday.
Putin, Erdogan discuss Syria twice in two days Putin and Erdogan spoke by telephone and "continued their exchange of opinions concerning the situation in Syria", the Russian presidency said in a brief statement.
The pair also spoke by phone on Friday "at Turkey's initiative", in a conversation that covered bilateral ties as well as a "resolution to the Syrian conflict", notably the possibility of "coordinated efforts in the fight against terrorism", the Kremlin said.Rouhani: Iran, Turkey need to сooperate to кesolve сrises in Syria, Iraq Geez, I've been saying that all along- Cooperate or be destroyed!  Cause divide to conquer works, if you let it!  "Nowadays, when the situation in the region seems shaky, the development cooperation, like-mindedness, as well as contacts between Tehran and Ankara can be very useful for solving problems in the region," Rouhani said after a meeting with Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Chavushoglu in Tehran, as quoted by the IRNA news agency.
The Iranian president said that cooperation between the regional states was necessary to resolve the crises in Syria and Iraq, and help in the fight against terrorism.From earlier and now updated:
Friday's news:
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Blasts hit Coalition Arms Depot in Syria? Russia Confirms SAA attack on Turks?

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Sat, 11/26/2016 - 11:06
Two stories I'm keeping an eye on.

Of the two news items I find the first one to be more credible. The second one not so much
The first one has attribution.  The second one has none!

The first one has names and quoted statements.
The second one consists of claims that are unsubstantiated.

The first news report fits in a retaliatory way to the attacks on Turkish soldiers
The second one... is unsupported by anything of  real substance.

You decide and I will keep a watchful eye on the developments of both?

First Report: Blasts hit coalition arms depot in north Syria
"At least five explosions occured on Saturday morning at the arms and munitions depots in a base close to Tal Tamer" northwest of the city of Hasakeh, the head of the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, Rami Abdel Rahman, told AFP.
He said the base was used by Kurdish forces from the Peoples Protection Units (YPG) as well as members of the international coalition fighting IS in Syria and neighbouring Iraq.
A local Kurdish official said a number of people were injured in the blasts and loaded on to ambulances.
Neither the Observatory nor the official could specify the cause of the blasts, and the coalition was not immediately available for comment.
It was not clear if there were any US personnel on the base at the time of the blasts.
A witness told AFP that "successive explosions occurred between 08.30am-09am GMT" and said ambulances and firefighters arrived swiftly on the scene.
The US on Thursday announced the death of an American serviceman in Syria, who was killed by an improvised explosive device.
For more than two years the United States has led a 66-nation coalition using air strikes against the jihadists' positions in Syria and Iraq.
Washington has also deployed special forces in Syria to advise the Arab-Kurdish alliance, the Syrian Democratic Forces, and improve the coalition's targeting of air strikes.
As many as 300 US special forces personnel may be in Syria.We know one of those personnel died on "Turkey" day: US Soldier Killed in Syria was an Explosives Expert

The above news item is reported on here: Blast hits US backed anti- ISIS force's arms depot

Tit for Tat?: Kurdish Led Forces Blow up 4 Turkish Tanks
The Kurdish-led military command in the northern Syrian town of Manbij on Thursday announced they destroyed four Turkish army tanks in the western countryside of the township.

 Second report : Russia confirms Syria regime conducted airstrike on Turkish soldiersAfter the death of three Turkish soldiers involved in Turkey’s “Euphrates Shield” operation in Syria in an airstrike, Russia has cooperated with Turkey and conducted an investigation that lays blame for the attack on the Assad regime, media reports have said. Who in Russia? What entity in Russia conducted this investigation which coincidentally bolsters the questionable original narrative?
Turkish newspaper Hurriyet said that the attack initially seemed intent on spoiling Turkish-Russian relations that have recently warmed since Turkey shot down a Russian bomber last year. However, Russia was highly cooperative and assured Turkey that it did not carry out the attack, maintaining the recently patched ties between the two powers.
When Turkey told Russia that the plane which carried out the strike set off from a Syrian airport under Russian control, Russia asked for more time to investigate the issue before conducting an investigation that confirmed that a Syrian Air Force L-39 Albatros light-attack warplane carried out the attack. Who in Turkey informed what person or group in Russia? The devil is in the lack of details.
The regime airstrike on the Turkish soldiers came one year after Turkey downed a Russian fighter jet that brought relations between the two Black Sea powers to the verge of collapse. According to reports, the regime airstrike caused the death of four Turkish soldiers and wounded ten others. Immediately after the strike, two Turkish F-16 jets set off from Incirlik Airbase and arrived at the scene 13 minutes later to find that the aircraft which carried out the strike had departed. Two Turkish or two NATO F-16's? I don't know. I've no reason to believe this report.
President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Prime Minister Binali Yildirim held emergency phone calls with Defence Minister Fikri Isik and the Chief of General Staff General Hulusi Akar before speaking to the media. Yildirim vowed that Turkey would avenge the deaths of its “heroic sons.” He also told journalists in Ankara that “there are different parties who do not agree with our [Euphrates Shield] operation against Daesh. There will be revenge for this attack.”Yup, there are different parties who do not agree with Turkey's operation! Syria alone? I don't think so.
Just the other day I posted information of the US disapproval of this operation
Al-Araby Al-Jadeed said that this attack bore clear messages to Turkey, which supports the Syrian opposition, and that the airstrike was a warning for it to not attempt to expand its control to reach near Aleppo and other parts where Syrian regime does not want Turkey.
Turkey is now fighting to push Daesh out of Al-Bab, which is very close to Aleppo’s besieged and opposition-held eastern districts.
Thoughts?
Creating an idea of Russia double crossing Syria?
 
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Putin and Erdogan Talk Syria Etc.- Today

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Fri, 11/25/2016 - 17:57
Xinhua

- Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan talked with his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin over phone on Friday

The two leaders exchanged views on the attack, while also agreeing to speed up efforts to find a solution to the humanitarian crisis in Syria's Aleppo, the report said.

Erdogan said "Turkey respected Syria's territorial integrity" with the Euphrates Shield operation in northern Syria, which was launched in August by Ankara.

They also vowed to continue to boost the normalization process between Turkey and Russia.

Erdogan and Putin also talked on Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim's upcoming visit to Moscow on Dec. 6 and the High-Level Russian-Turkish Cooperation Council's meeting, which will be held in the first half of 2017.

Thursday's incident prompted initial suspicions of an attempt to bring Turkey and Russia face to face again in Syria amid the first anniversary of Turkey's downing of a Russian jet along the border with Syria, the report said. That anniversary date caught my attention!

Tass

MOSCOW, November 25. /TASS/. Presidents Vladimir Putin of Russia and Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey on Friday discussed issues of the settlement of the Syrian crisis and joint anti-terrorism efforts, the Kremlin press service reported after their telephone conversation.

The two leaders exchanged views on the settlement of the Syrian crisis in a constructive atmosphere. They agreed, in particular, to continue dialogue between the Russian and Turkish ministries of foreign affairs and defense, and between security services in order to ensure coordination of efforts in fighting against international terrorism," the Kremlin said.


Apart from that, the two presidents "discussed current issues of the Russia-Turkish political and trade-and-economic cooperation, including forthcoming bilateral contacts at various levels," the press service said.

The conversation was initiated by the Turkish side.
Reuters

Nov 25 Russian President Vladimir Putin and Turkey's Tayyip Erdogan discussed ways to resolve the Syria crisis in a phone call, the Kremlin said on Friday.

The Kremlin said in a statement the discussion on Syria was constructive and that both sides agreed to continue active dialogue via foreign and defence ministries, as well as via security services, to coordinate efforts in the struggle against international terrorism.
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US Soldier Killed in Syria was an Explosives Expert

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Fri, 11/25/2016 - 17:18
Interesting because the initial reports regarding the killing of the Turkish soldier attributed their deaths to an explosion. Was this man involved? Could he have died in the explosion that killed the Turkish soldiers? Necessitating a cover story.. like SAA striking the Turks?

 ***Southfront: No Confirmation Of Syrian Strikes on Turkish Mil- One Year Anniversary Date Russian Jet Shootdown

His death and the alleged SAA attack on the Turkish troops initially reported as an explosives attack conducted by ISIS - occurred on the same day.
It's certainly curious?

WSJ
A U.S. service member killed Thursday in Syria by an improvised bomb was a highly decorated Navy sailor with 23 years experience, and an explosive ordinance disposal specialist, defense officials said Friday. Chief Petty Officer Dayton was killed near Ayn Issa in northern Syria by the improvised explosive device. The commander of the U.S.-led coalition offered condolences to the sailor’s relatives.
If he can dispose, he can build...
Chief Petty Officer Dayton had been assigned to Explosive Ordnance Disposal Mobile Unit (EODMU) Two, based in Virginia Beach, Va. Mr. Dayton had earned a number of qualifications in his Navy career. In addition to explosive disposal technician, he was also an expeditionary warfare specialist, a naval parachutist, an enlisted surface warfare specialist, and a diver, according to Navy officials.“We offer our deepest condolences and sympathies to the family and friends of Senior Chief Petty Officer Scott Dayton, who made the ultimate sacrifice on a day we set aside time to give thanks for our freedom and to recognize the men and women who defend that right,” said Rear Adm. Brian Brakke, commander, Navy Expeditionary Combat Command. The sailor entered the Navy in 1993 and received 18 awards, including the Navy Marine Corps Commendation, Army Commendation Medal, two Navy Marine Corps Achievement Medals, Army Achievement Medal, two Combat Action Ribbons, Joint Meritorious Unit Award, Good Conduct Medal, National Defense Service Medal, and others.Defense Secretary Ash Carter noted the death of the sailor in a statement Thursday.
“I am deeply saddened by the news on this Thanksgiving Day that one of our brave service members has been killed in Syria while protecting us from the evil of ISIL,” Mr. Carter said in a statement, using an acronym for the extremist group. “It is a painful reminder of the dangers our men and women in uniform face around the world to keep us safe.” No American boots on the ground in Syria, eh Obama?
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Southfront: No Confirmation Of Syrian Strikes on Turkish Mil- One Year Anniversary Date Russian Jet Shootdown

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Thu, 11/24/2016 - 16:11
 SANA has nothing as of 4:10 pm est regarding this reported strike
I will update asap







I've been taking some time to really really read the news reports regarding this alleged strike on Turkish soldiers attributed to Syria- Syria has yet to confirm or deny or say anything about this

UPDATE  #1:

Let's look at this article:

A brief recap :
The strike on the Turkish soldiers was attributed initially to ISIS- then a statement appeared on line attributed to "the turkish army" saying it was SAA. The statement is not connected to one individual or one spokesperson. Just "the Turkish Army" Who is "the Turkish Army" in this case. Curiously this incident occurred on the first anniversary of the Russian jet shootdown!

November 24/2015: Putin Warns After NATO Occupied Turkey Shot Down Russian Fighter Jet

" The incident came on the first anniversary of Turkey’s shooting down of a Russian military jet on the Turkish-Syrian border."A message? On such a providential date?

Initial reports attributed to attack to ISIS- Via Turkish media and SOHR. 
SOHR is highly unlikely, given their agenda, to report the attack was conducted by ISIS if it was SAA- think about it!
"Turkish media had earlier blamed the attack on ISIL.
Adding to the confusion, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, a Britain-based opposition monitoring group, also said it was an "attack by IS".Turkey’s army blamed the Syrian government for an air strike on Thursday in northern Syria that killed three Turkish soldiers –_Turkish media had earlier blamed the attack on ISIL.
_Adding to the confusion, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, a Britain-based opposition monitoring group, also said it was an "attack by IS".
-Turkey's Army... how is that defined?
-Nothing is coming out of  Ankara 
-One year anniversary of shootdown
-And nothing at Sana as of 5:00 est
 ******But wait, I have more!!! 
Gulf Today:

There was no immediate comment from the Syrian military.(Unbelievable, truly!)Direct confrontation between Nato-member Turkey and Syrian government forces, which are backed by allies including Russia, would mark a serious escalation in an already messy battlefield in northern Syria.From my post the other day: US & Turkey At "Cross- Purposes" in Syria? Whaaat?!?!

  "As events unfold around al-Bab fears are growing that a Turkish-backed assault on the town could also spark a clash between Russia, Assad’s patron, and Turkey"Commentary from yours truly:  The US would surely enjoy seeing Turkey and Russia in conflict- Will that happen? We shall see.. Definitely a volatile situation 

The one year anniversary date of the jet shootdown- A US/NATO attempt one year ago to block Turkish/Russian peacemaking- Are we looking at a replay? The one year anniversary to the day!


From earlier today:

EU Votes To Freeze Turkish Accession Talks-NATO Destabilized
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EU Votes To Freeze Turkish Accession Talks-NATO Destabilized

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Thu, 11/24/2016 - 09:13
Nasdaq

Of course this move is politically and financially motivated- It's part of the war against Turkey.
Surely the US okayed this move.
BRUSSELS—The European Parliament voted overwhelmingly to temporarily freeze talks on Turkey's bid to join the European Union on Thursday, citing deteriorating human rights and democratic standards under President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's rule.
The vote, which was nonbinding, underscores a deep slide in relations between the EU and Turkey and will further drain energy from accession talks that have already dragged on with limited progress for more than a decade.  EU lawmakers voted overwhelmingly in favor of the resolution which called for the freeze in talks in response to the"disproportionate repressive measures" that lawmakers said Turkish authorities have taken since July's failed military coup.In whose opinion are these moves repressive? The coup plotters opinion?
Recall the EU was non supportive of Turkey after the coup attempt fail? Just like the US.

In recent months, some senior European officials have warned it would be a diplomatic blunder to end the accession talks, saying it would cause a needless fresh crisis between Brussels and Ankara and blunt pressures for reform within Turkey.However, others believe that ending the talks could allow the EU and Turkey to refocus ties on areas of real mutual interest and end the constant back-and-forth over Turkey's record in moving closer to EU rules and standards.
While only one EU member state, Austria, has formally proposed that the membership talks should be suspended, in recent weeks there has been growing frustration with Mr. Erdogan in Brussels, Berlin and other capitals and an acknowledgment that membership negotiations were headed nowhere.
Many EU countries have, from the start of talks in 2005, been deeply skeptical about Turkey joining the bloc. However, membership for Turkey was once pushed strongly by the likes of the U.K. and the U.S.In recent months, Mr. Erdogan and Turkish officials have suggested they could walk away from the discussions. Ankara has worked to improve ties with Russia and Middle Eastern neighbors in that time.
Regarding my comment about the coup plotters (EU/US) judging Turkeys alleged disproportionate measures......... Euractiv 

 The paragraph below is mostly hearsay. The numbers are likely be accurate but anything else is unverifiable. It's  mostly written to create empathy
I'll underline the parts I believe to be factual statements
They represent 40 Turkish officers from NATO HQ in Brussels, all sacked peremptorily in September. Overall, 700 out of a pool assigned to NATO of 900 officers are purged or jailed. They are, or were, the cream of the Turkish armed forces, including many post-graduates from the US Naval School in Monterey, California. They want to talk about their plight. They are victims of President Erdoğan’s purge. If they go home (as some colleagues did) they will be arrested and imprisoned without hope of a fair trial. Most are applying for political asylum in Belgium.
Their properties in Turkey are sequestrated, and members of their families at home, including mothers, have been interrogated. All deny complicity in the July putsch. They are incriminated, they say, because they are Western and intellectual.
They are typical of a new Western-oriented class of military officer that has sought escape from an Ottoman past that was littered with plots, coups, scandals, corruption, torture, and murder. But old habits die hard. “Even Mustafa Kemal [Ataturk] was a ‘putsch-ist’”, my companions remind me proudly.
The military undermined
Erdoğan’s earlier strikes against the overweening power of the Kemalist establishment are not resented by the younger officers. They are loyal to the armed forces but not uncritical. They know that Turkey’s military has enjoyed great privileges since the foundation of the republic in 1923. ( True) The military budget is beyond the scrutiny of the Turkish Grand National Assembly. (True)A constant battle between Turkey’s civilian and military echelon has been played out in the secretive national security council. Bastion of secularism, the military itself has been consumed with inter-service and inter-generational rivalry, and many generals have been enriched by running unimpeded a powerful military industrial complex (True)
NATO destabilised

Turkey joined NATO (with Greece) as long ago as 1952. For years, in good times and bad, the only reliable interlocutors with Turkey’s vast armed forces have been the US military. Erdoğan alleges that the CIA, somehow inspired by Fethullah Gülen from his unlikely hideout in Pennsylvania, was behind the putsch. Whatever the truth, it is difficult to believe that the Americans had no knowledge of the affair in advance.(obviously TRUE) So today, at least under President Obama, the US military are not talking to the new AKP party interlopers (interesting and telling word!) at NATO in Brussels or SHAPE in Mons.  Interlopers defined: a person/s who becomes involved in a place or situation where they are not wanted or are considered not to belong. The US military considers Turkey's elected government and it's representatives unwanted and unbelonging persons..

In effect, NATO has ceased to operate reliably on its south-eastern flank. (True) The collective security of the West now stops at Edirne, in Thrace. (surely the way the NATO tyranny looks at it)Recall this post from more then two years ago??
November 14/2014:  Kurdistan. NATO’s new Southern Flank?
" If all goes well for NATO, Israel and the Kurds.  Turkey will be supplanted as NATO’s Southern Flank. It seems to be just a matter of time.....I hold the opinion that Turkish leadership has become aware of what looks to be it’s impending betrayal"
Stoltenberg the player
It is little short of astonishing, therefore, that Jens Stoltenberg, NATO secretary general, told a NATO conference in Istanbul on Monday, in front of Erdoğan, that Turkey remains a steadfast ally.Stoltenberg was lying. It's  just part of the 'game' for him.
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US & Turkey At "Cross- Purposes" in Syria? Whaaat?!?!

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Tue, 11/22/2016 - 13:05
Wait just a minute! 
The US mouthpieces from every department tell us the US is "fighting ISIS"
And Turkey? They are fighting ISIS, an organization that has attacked the nation state of Turkey.
Turkey is also fighting the PKK/YPG - In both instances, the fight against ISIS &YPG/PKK, Turkey is found to be at "cross purposes' with the US. So many claim they are allied with the US in Syria,  these persons must wonder how it is the US suggesting the two nations are now at "cross-purposes"?  
That claim -Turkey/US unquestioningly/unequivocally allied- is not made here at all.  Not for years now. That ship sailed. The US and Turkey have been at cross purposes for a long while now.. 

So finally the msm is catching up to this blog! And it only took two years! Will wonders never cease? (And yes my disillusionment with alternative voices has only grown over the many years of running this blog!)

Voice of America
GAZIANTEP, TURKEY —  Fighting between Turkish-backed rebels in northern Syria and the Kurdish-dominated Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), earmarked by the United States to retake Raqqa from Islamic State (IS) militants, is escalating dramatically.

The intensifying clashes are complicating Washington’s bid to use Kurdish-led forces to launch a full-scale assault on the jihadists’ self-proclaimed Syrian capital, and are maneuvering the U.S. and Turkey into ever greater cross-purposes in Syria, fear Western diplomats and analysts.-These aren't Kurdish 'led' forces- These are Kurdish Forces. Period!
-Turkey offered to partner with the US on Raqqa- The US rejected the Turkish offer choosing instead to align with their Kurdish proxies as they annex Syria territory
 "The U.S. has been supporting the  SDF (which =YPG/PKK) with weapons and airstrikes and has deployed hundreds of special forces and military advisers to assist the Kurdish forces (omitting spin of led)U.S. war planners hope that by pressing IS in Raqqa simultaneously as Iraqi forces are attacking Mosul, the terror group’s last remaining major urban stronghold in neighboring Iraq, the jihadists’ resources and manpower will be stretched thin, weakening their ability to defend either city and hastening their fall"roflmao! Hastening the fall of ISIS. Sure, to create one continuous Kurdish territory from Iraq to Syria- phooey on the fighting ISIS nonsense
"Speaking at a NATO forum in Istanbul Monday, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan upped his criticism of the U.S. for its use of the YPG, which Turkey insists is inseparable from the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), with which Ankara is locked in a vicious counter-insurgency fight in south-east Turkey that has seen widespread rights abuses, according to monitors.
U.S. officials prefer to view Syria’s Democratic Union Party (PYD) and its YPG military wing as separate from the PKK"
US officials "prefer to view" YPG/PKK as separate. Preferring it doesn't make it so
Prefer as in preference -a practical advantage given to one over others.

I too have many preferences... I would prefer to have a bit more savings- See my daughter more often- Live in a newer home- I have many preferences but reality, existing as it does, means the US preferring to view YPG as separate from PKK does not make it so! Unless the US is out of touch with reality? Which is not the case. They just want the masses to be out of touch with reality and believe the lying spin put forth to deceive
"Euphrates Shield already appears to have gone a long way to undermine the hopes of the Kurds to link all four of their cantons along that run along the Turkey-Syria border - an offensive move, the Kurds say, aimed at denying their legitimate aspirations for self-determination".
They say these are their 'legitimate aspirations' but what about the displaced ? What of their aspirations? Are their's less legitimate. Was all the environmental/general destruction/mayhem and blood shed worth the Kurdish militias claimed legitimate aspirations? I'll wager many, many persons including Kurds would answer no to that question!
 “As Turkey's Operation Euphrates Shield progresses toward al-Bab, the spate of fighting between Turkish-backed rebels and the YPG is increasing,” according to analysts at Stratfor, a U.S.-based global intelligence firm.  Last paragraph:
 As events unfold around al-Bab fears are growing that a Turkish-backed assault on the town could also spark a clash between Russia, Assad’s patron, and Turkey. There have already been reports that Assad’s Russian-supplied air defense radars have locked in on Turkish warplanes as a warning that Damascus won’t tolerate a rebel assault on the town. The US would surely enjoy seeing Turkey and Russia in conflict- Will that happen?
We shall see.. Definitely a volatile situation 

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More US/Turkish/Russian/Syrian Confrontation. Via Proxies with or without Manpads?

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Mon, 11/21/2016 - 17:59
Would the US supply PKK/YPG with ManPads also? Let's entertain that as a possibility?

ISIS does not fly planes!  So we KNOW the supply of ManPads has nothing to do with the fight against ISIS!  And  is intended purely to escalate the war making, against numerous participants, in the region. A declaration of war on the part of the US!

*Ansar Al Islam (Syrian "rebels") have US Approved Anti-Aircraft Missiles or Manpads"A Syrian rebel group has paraded a cache of shoulder-launched anti-aircraft missiles, the first evidence of the weapons being supplied to opposition forces after an expected relaxing of US restrictions.Despite the claims of US/Turkish alliance- The reality is quite the opposite and has been for some time. Sure Turkey has it’s turn coats who will happily cooperate with the continued US destabilization of Turkey.  
- An example of that would be the persons who participated in the US fomented coup attempt.
- And the PKK/YPG allies already destabilizing Turkey, as Turkey continues to confiscate US supplied arms from PKK in Turkey.

*The Impact of the Kurdish/US Campaign to Take Raqqa: Syria/Turkey's Betrayal/Russia “The U.S. says they don’t give arms to the YPG. But we know that they have done since the Kobane [battle between the YPG and the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant]. We captured those arms from [outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party] PKK militants in Turkey. So we know that the U.S. gives weapons to the YPG. And we told [U.S. Chief of General Staff Joseph] Dunford not give weapons to them,” Çavusoglu  Turkey and the US are not allied in Operation Euphrates as it advances to Al Bab *US Led Coalition NOT backing Turkish Move on Al-Bab: ISIS leaves 8 Villages for Kurds“Their offensive on the city of Al-Bab is not being supported by coalition air strikes because it was “independently” launched by Turkey, said US Colonel John Dorrian, a spokesman for the coalition fighting the jihadist group in Syria and Iraq”*US/Turkey Confrontation- Turkish backed rebels fighting US backed Kurds

Reuters- ignoring the spin of course!
Example of Reuters spin? - Every time Turkish backed rebels says YPG- Reuters says SDF
It’s YPG. It’s PKK. The biggest faction of Arabs left SDF

“Syrian rebels backed by Turkey who are trying to drive Islamic State from the city of al Bab said on Monday they clashed with U.S.-backed Kurdish forces” (Kurdish forces who have annexed Syrian territory and are holding elections, taking census etc)Fighting erupted in the village of Sheikh Nasser."We clashed with the Kurdish YPG and we took over the village," said Abu Assad Dabeq, a commander in the Turkish-backed Operation Euphrates Shield

"The YPG are trying to advance to the areas we are advancing to," said Abu Assad Dabeq, adding his troops were already only a few kilometres away from al Bab

I found the tidbit below interesting:
"They (YPG) are competing with us to reach al Bab. They are working on cutting all roads either from Aleppo or in the direction of al Bab," he added.

The YPG( SDF )had effectively created a belt that separated the mainly Arab Sunni rebels from where the Syrian army was positioned further south, he added”

So the Turkish backed rebel reports the Kurdish fighters created a belt between SAA and the Turkish rebels- As if to keep them apart? Why would they do that?

"The Turkish air force is helping to push back the YPG militias who have been exploiting our gains from Islamic State to step into villages vacated by the militants," Abu Anas said referring to four villages west of Manbij
Yes, the Turkish military is flying over Syria

*Turkish air force hits Daesh, PKK/PYD targets in Syria

Turkey’s military released details of overnight airstrikes on terrorist positions in northern Syria on Monday.

A statement from the military said Turkey’s air force hit six headquarters and 11 defensive positions belonging to the Daesh terror group.

Turkish forces also hit four defensive positions belonging to the PKK/PYD, killing 11 terrorists.

In separate strikes, targets hit included 64 Daesh and 11 PKK/PYD objectives, including shelters, command-and-control centers and vehicles.

Turkey-backed Free Syrian Army (FSA) special task force soldiers continued land-based attacks to control areas to the east and west of Al-Bab.

FSA troops gained control of Sheikh Nasir village near Al-Bab after Daesh withdrew. (Under fire, not via agreement with Kurdish militias)

As I mentioned earlier today and at the opening of this post,  the US has just okayed the supply of  Manpads to it’s special rebel friends in Syria–

This will enable these rebels to shoot down Syrian planes. Russian planes. Turkish planes.
Hence confrontation between Turkey and the US has already occurred (coup- aligning with PKK/YPG) , is occuring (fighting between proxies)  and could get escalate.  Turkish plane shoot downs by US backed rebels, Kurd or otherwise, giving the US that good ol' plausible deniability they are so fond of ....  


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Ansar Al Islam (Syrian "rebels") have US Approved Anti-Aircraft Missiles or Manpads

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Mon, 11/21/2016 - 10:22
Link and Link
"A Syrian rebel group has paraded a cache of shoulder-launched anti-aircraft missiles, the first evidence of the weapons being supplied to opposition forces after an expected relaxing of US restrictions. Members of the Ansar al-Islam Front were shown in a video posted on 20 November testing SA-7 Strela-2 missiles"
The first fighter in the video can be heard saying: "We, in Ansar al-Islam Front, have distributed several points of air defence to counter any attempt by the Syrian warplanes or helicopters which bombs points in Quneitra province. We have good number of these missiles."

A second fighter, named as "Abu Bilal" in the video, says: "We, in Ansar al-Islam Front and factions of the FSA, are distributing equipment and soldiers toward Tal al-Hara, Mashara, Sandaniya and Jabata. And in the coming days you will hear good news from Quneitra and its surroundings.

"There are a lot of preparations for ambushes and units deployed on the front lines. There are units of air defence, infantry elements and other several sets of our factions and the factions of the FSA in Quneitra and its surroundings."US Did Allow These Weapons to Fall into Terrorist Hands!The supply of the missiles breaches a standing order from the US to prohibit their distribution in Syria. The US has feared the weapons could fall into the hands of groups such as the Islamic State or the Nusra Front and be used against American forces, their allies and civilian aviation.
However, a high-level rebel source told Middle East Eye in late September that the US was to clear the way for allied nations to begin supplying the weapons, as Russian and Syrian forces increased their attacks on rebel-held areas of the northern city of Aleppo. "The US confirmed the green light to begin sending them to rebels through supply routes still open through Jordan and Turkey," the source told MEE at the time. "Rebels are being told only to target Syrian helicopters, not Russian - but it's not clear they will abide by this." The source told Middle East Eye that the US had confirmed it would allow Qatar and Saudi Arabia to begin shipments.@raging545 MANPADS correctly id`d as 9K32 Strela-2 SA-7 "Grail" that the #Syria(n) rebels now have https://t.co/RaiERh7u17 #Russia #Putin pic.twitter.com/4sqxaRjl3B— raging.me (@raging545) November 21, 2016The Reuters news agency at the same time quoted anonymous US officials as saying the assault on Aleppo had "heightened" the possibility of the Obama administration lifting the ban.However, there is no evidence of the missiles reaching Aleppo, where supply routes have been cut by a siege by Syrian government forces. The Ansar al-Islam Front is reportedly among dozens of rebel groups that have in the past been supplied with US-made BGM-71 anti-tank missiles, with US approval and through Saudi channels.  The SA-7 was designed by the Soviets in the 1960s and was among the first generation of man-portable air defence weapons, known by the acronym "Manpads", although there have been several upgraded variants since.
From yesterday:

Autonomy For Eastern Aleppo Terrorists? UN Truce Terms Refused by Syria!
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War Crimes Advocate Seeks A Job in the Trump Administration

freedominourtime - Mon, 11/21/2016 - 01:53


The eyes of a fictional psychopath....


President-elect Donald Trump has thousands of executive branch positions to fill, including the spot in the Office of Legal Counsel once occupied by the detestable war criminal John C. Yoo. William C. Bradford, an obscure, disgraced ex-West Point instructor and unabashed advocate of genocide and military rule, might assume Yoo’s station as chief legal apologist for presidential war crimes.


The OLC’s stated function is to advise the president regarding the constraints imposed upon his powers by the Constitution and laws made pursuant to it. Yoo specialized in devising intricate rationales for presidential lawlessness. His most famous work is the so-called Bybee Memorandum, one of several documentsin which Yoo defended the claim that the president can essentially order the abuse, torture, and mutilationof detainees, and the military or intelligence operatives who carry out such orders are legally unaccountable. Yoo has publicly stated that the president has the legal authority to order the sexual torture and mutilation of a child if he can contrive a “national security” rationale for such an atrocity.

Translating that claim into pop culture terms, Yoo would see nothing wrong in a President Negan torturing Carl in order to break Rick’s spirit – if this is done in the name of “national security.”

After promoting an American version of fuhrerprinzip as an advisor to George W. Bush, Yoo found Donald Trump unsuitable to the task of exercising the power to imprison, torture, and assassinate people of his choosing. This isn’t because Yoo takes issue with Trump’s authoritarian disposition, but rather because he is concerned that Trump is not ideologically reliable. Thus it’s doubtful that Yoo will be asked to rejoin the executive branch under Trump. The transition team is looking to re-cast the role Yoo had played as legal enabler to the worst presidential impulses – and disgraced former West Point instructor William C. Bradford is all but wetting his pants in his incontinent eagerness to fill the post.

Over the past year, Bradford, an attorney and quondam law professor, has promoted the idea that academic dissenters from the “Global War on Terrorism,” and attorneys who represent terrorism suspects, should be treated as enemy combatants. Thus branded, attorneys and scholars would be eligible for the full menu of punitive options, including extra-judicial arrest and indefinite detention, trial by military tribunals, torture, and even summary execution.

....the eyes of a real-life psychopath: Bradford. “The West must shatter Islamists' political will and eradicate those who do not renounce Islamism,” insists Bradford in a 185-page diatribe entitled “Trahsion des Professeurs: The Critical Law of Armed Conflict Academy as an Islamist Fifth Column,” which was published in the Spring/Summer 2015 issue of the George Mason University National Security Law Journal. “All instruments of national power – including conventional and nuclear force and PSYOPs [psychological warfare operations] – must be harnessed … to capture the hearts and minds of Islamic peoples, break their will to fight for Islamism, and leave them prepared to coexist with the West or be utterly eradicated....”

In confronting an existential crisis, Bradford asserts, “survival is its own justification.” There is no room for “legal fetishists” who are skeptical of decisions by the executive or military leadership: “Americans are entitled not only to political leaders who employ and all necessary measures but to the strong presumption such measures are legal, and to the salutary effects of this presumption upon their belief in the virtue of their cause and their will to fight for it.”

Jefferson pointedly taught that patriots are to be irrepressibly suspicious of the exercise of government power. Bradford, who would find Jefferson’s wisdom lacking and his patriotism questionable, treats such skepticism as sedition, rather than civic virtue.

To wage “total war” against a tenacious and all-but-omnipresent enemy, all restrictions on government power must be supplanted by what he calls the Law of Armed Conflict (LOAC). In this way, the executive is emancipated from checks and balances, and the constitutional subordination of the military to civilian control is reversed: “[I]t is the military upon whom the constitutional duty to defend Americans is incumbent, and in whom Americans repose trust.”

No, "Brute," you resigned after getting busted for lying about your credentials. Madison, another Founder whom Bradford would consign to a detention camp, warned that armies – rather than being worthy of public trust – are, along with public debts and taxes, “the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few.”

Bradford refers to scholarly critics of Washington's open-ended war against Islamism as the Critical Law of Armed Conflict Academy, an artlessly contrived expression intended to justify the pungently dismissive acronym CLOACA. While admitting that “no membership roll exists” of that intellectual cohort, and declining to name specific examples (most likely out of a desire to avoid civil liability), Bradford insists that scholars who fit within that amorphous category constitute an “Islamist Fifth Column,” even when no evidence of conscious collaboration exists.

Scholarship that challenges the “autonomy” of the Pentagon, or “dismiss[es] military wisdom” by questioning the legality, constitutionality, or morality of foreign wars, indefinite detention of terrorism suspects, or the use of torture as an interrogation technique are not mere academic exercises, according to Bradford. Instead, they are a form of advocacy that “attenuates U.S. arms and undermines American will, [and] are PSYOPs. Which are combatant acts,” Bradford maintains.

As “propaganda inciting others to war crimes, such acts are prosecutable.... CLOACA members are thus combatants who, like all other combatants, can be targeted at any time and place and captured and detained until termination of hostilities” – without judicial recourse. Assuming that “CLOACA members” would be treated in the same fashion as their supposed Islamist comrades, they would be subject to “judicial execution post-interrogation” if this were considered justifiable as a matter of military necessity.

The threshold for such treatment is astonishingly low. Academic dissenters who publicly describe the U.S. government as “an `aggressor' or employer of illegal methods and means, or [cast] aspersions on U.S. motives” for carrying out military operations display “an intent to betray the United States” or to give aid and comfort to the enemy, Bradford contends. Those thus identified would be subject to what Bradford calls a “counterattack” involving a range of options drawn from a continuum of “increasing coercion” – including mandatory loyalty oaths, termination from employment, formal criminal charges for “material support of terrorism” or even “treason” – a capital offense.

Ominously, in the wake of the summary execution, via drone strikes, of U.S. citizen Anwar al-Awlaki and his American-born, 16-year-old son Abdulrahman, Bradford asserts that scholarly critics of Washington's terror war who “commit treason, or otherwise engage in unlawful combatancy … must answer for their delicts just as any others do. The perversity inherent in countenancing intellectual elitism as a basis for a defense against prosecution and a grant of immunity from targeting in war is astonishing.” (Emphasis added.)

Elsewhere in the essay, Bradford observes that “enemy combatants may be targeted and killed wherever and whenever they can be found” and that “UAVs [that is, missile-bearing drones], as with other weapons systems, do not require that targets of targeting killing be afforded a warning or judicial process before use.”

The coercive “counterattack” against so-called “CLOACA members” would not be limited to lawyers or scholars who express critical views:

“[The] infrastructure used to create and disseminate CLOACA propaganda – law school facilities, scholars' home offices, and media outlets where they give interviews – are also lawful targets given the causal connection between the content disseminated and the Islamist crimes incited. Shocking and extreme as this option might seem, CLOACA scholars, and the law schools that employ them, are – at least in theory – targetable so long as attacks are proportional, distinguish noncombatants from combatants, employ non-prohibited weapons, and contribute to the defeat of Islamism.”

Bradford would not confine the potential targets to supposedly treasonous professors and lawyers. Private citizens who are insufficiently submissive to the military junta would likewise be regarded as fair game.

“Fighting total war demands a mental reconfiguration” on the part of the public by resolving “arguments over how to balance security and liberty in favor of security,” Bradford insists, and “acculturating the necessary fighting spirit” in the population through mass propaganda and, where possible, conspicuous punishment of dissidents.

“Spartanization of the West will require the deepening of the concept of citizenship to include duties as well as rights,” writes Bradford, regurgitating a well-chewed collectivist nostrum “Rights are attended by corresponding duties, and the state may obligate citizens – even academics – to contribute to to the struggle in those ways they are able.”

Refusal “to acknowledge the Islamist threat as an existential challenge to Western Civilization, and to … unite to defeat that threat, would be the greatest dereliction of duty in history,” he declares.

Anticipating responses from critics, Bradford acknowledges that some might complain that his overwrought essay “incites authoritarianism insofar as it counsels militarization, withdraws debates over the enemy from the political arena, vilifies those who fail to acknowledge a grave threat, punishes disloyalty, and takes up law as sword and shield to defend and destroy political will.” Rather than explaining how that critique is inaccurate, Bradford parries such objections by insisting that “mobilization on all fronts is as necessary as a response to the current threat condition as it was during World War II.”
Actually, they embody privileged violence, not the rule of law.
Bradford's disdain for dissent, due process, and the rule of law do summon comparisons to a World War II-era legal revolution. In his study Hitler's Justice: The Courts of the Third Reich, Ingo Mueller describes how the Nazified German legal system was founded on the assumption that “the `national aim'” was the central organizing principle of society, and all guarantees of rights and limitations of state power yielded before the doctrine of “national emergency.”

Citing the rulings of the German Supreme Court and the writings of influential Party-aligned jurists, Mueller writes that the Nazi-era equivalent of Bradford's Law of Armed Conflict dictated that “objectivity finds its limits … when the national security is placed in doubt.” Every judge and lawyer was required to be “a son of his country” who would “place the vital interests of the nation unconditionally above what is formally the law.”

Bradford spent several years teaching law to West Point cadets before being forced to resign in August 2015. Significantly, he wasn't terminated for his advocacy of a genocidal foreign policy or a totalitarian campaign to suppress domestic dissent, but rather chose to resign rather than manning up and facing disciplinary action forinflating his military resume and falsely claiming to have received a Silver Star for combat duty in Desert Storm. In defiance of West Point’s honor code (“A cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do”), Bradford routinely lies about the circumstances of his ouster, claiming that Barack Obama had him cashiered for being politically incorrect.

There is a very good chance that the Trump administration will find a place for Bradford. Had the election turned out differently, it’s quite likely Bradford would now be quietly networking with like-minded militarists to overthrow a Hillary Clinton administration.

After publishing his blueprint for “Spartanizing” the United States, Bradford privately circulated a draft of an unpublished law review article entitled “Alea Iacta Est: The U.S. Coup of 2017.” An abstract of that essay posted to Bradford's LinkedIn page adumbrated a scenario in which a U.S. president becomes an undisguised “tyrant” who must be replaced by a military junta. A “tyrant,” by Bradford’s definition, would be one who wields unaccountable power in a way he and others who share his prejudices would find unacceptable.

“What if the American people were to elect a president who want[s] to destroy the nation and works to create division among the people, encourage a culture of ridicule for basic morality and the principles that made and sustained the country, undermine the financial stability of the nation, and weaken and destroy the military?” Bradford writes. “What remedies, if any, did the Framers commend to us in the event a tyrant should ever assume the presidency? Do the people have the right to resist a tyrant, and does that really hold any prospect of success without the support of the military? Does the U.S. military have the right or even the duty to intervene in the domestic politics of the United States as constitutional and political savior when the times require it, and who makes that determination?... Is such a duty incumbent upon the U.S. Armed Forces at present?”(Emphasis added.)

The title of Bradford's essay might be an allusion to a previous treatment of a similar theme:
Brig. Gen. Charles J. Dunlap's essay "The Origins of the American Military Coup of 2012," which was published in the Winter 1992—93 issue of the U.S. Army War College journal Parameters. Where Bradford appears to believe that a coup might be a “duty” incumbent on the military, Gen. Dunlap – writing from a constitutionalist, rather than praetorian, perspective – was clearly alarmed by what he saw as an entirely plausible scenario.

Dunlap used the literary device of a smuggled prison letter composed by "Prisoner 222305759," condemned to death for "treason" by military ruler Gen. E.T. Brutus. Following a series of military disasters overseas and domestic crises at home, Brutus, acting on concerns very similar to those spelled out by Bradford (or, for that matter, described in Robert Heinlein's premonitory novel Starship Troopers), staged a coup in the name of protecting "public order" from the corruption of the political class.

In the decades leading up to the putsch, the unnamed Prisoner recalled, "The one institution of government in which people retained faith was the military." Even as the public lamented the corruption and profligacy of Big Government, they had nothing but bottomless respect for the Regime's chief instrument of death and property destruction. The military retained its prestige in spite of the fact that its structural defects -- made painfully visible by a long, bloody, and futile war in the Gulf -- left it "unfit to engage an authentic military opponent."

While the military was no longer well-suited to fight and win wars, its subtle integration into every element of domestic life made it perfectly suited to carry out a coup:

"Eventually, people became acclimated to seeing uniformed military personnel patrolling their neighborhood. Now [meaning 2012 in the essay's timeline] troops are an adjunct to almost all police forces in the country. In many of the areas where much of our burgeoning population of elderly Americans live — Brutus calls them 'National Security Zones' — the military is often the only law enforcement agency. Consequently, the military was ideally positioned in thousands of communities to support the coup."


Although 2012 passed without an overt military takeover, Dunlap's projection of trends – especially the disastrous long-term military entanglement in the Middle East, the expanding role of the Pentagon in routine domestic law enforcement, and the pervasive cultural presence of the military in everyday American life -- has proven to be uncannily prescient. The same is true of the apparently inexhaustible respect and public deference enjoyed by the military, despite widespread and deepening disillusionment with nearly every other branch of government.

For most of this year, Bradford has been updating his recommendations, loudly defending Donald Trump’s proposal to target civilian families of suspected terrorists and demanding a return to conscription. His proprietary blend of militancy and sycophancy may be rewarded with a plunder-funded position in which he could help devise legal justifications for military rule. Stephen Bannon, chosen to be Trump’s chief White House strategist, is an unabashed proponent of the view that the United States is involved in a global war against radical Islam. Bradford would find suitable company among the bellicose officials with whom Trump is stocking the national security apparatus.


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Autonomy For Eastern Aleppo Terrorists? UN Truce Terms Refused by Syria!

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Sun, 11/20/2016 - 09:22
 The UN wasn't offering truce terms they were offering balkanization and destruction terms!
Disgusting! Disgraceful! Detestable! 
Is it any wonder I refer to the UN as the "Useless Nations"? Seriously, hope no one here wonders why I do that? The reasoning should be obvious.

UN Rewarding Terrorists and Terrorism

USA Today- 

 BEIRUT - The Syrian government on Sunday refused a U.N. proposal to grant the eastern districts of Aleppo autonomy as part of an approach to restore calm to the war-torn city.Al-Moallem added that Syria doesn’t accept leaving some 275,000 people in east Aleppo as “hostages to 6,000 gunmen.” But the UN thinks that's just hunky dory!
“We agreed on the need that terrorists should get out of east Aleppo to end the suffering of the civilians in the city,” he said. De Mistura (Terrorist supporter) did not make any remarks following the meeting.RT
  • 12:05 GMT
    Damascus rejects autonomy for militant-held east AleppoA UN proposal for the militant-held eastern part of Aleppo to have an autonomous administration, which was voiced by special envoy Staffan De Mistura, has been rejected by Damascus, Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Moalem said after holding talks with the UN official in Damascus. “This was completely rejected... This is a violation of our sovereignty,” he said in a televised news conference after the talks on Sunday.
 Syria refuses to cave to UN demands to give East Aleppo to terrorists


Damascus – The Syrian regime on Sunday rejected a proposal by the United Nations to grant autonomy to the rebel-held eastern part of Aleppo city, Foreign Minister Walid al-Moallem said. “This was completely rejected. This is a violation of our sovereignty,” the Syrian FM said in a press conference in Damascus after a meeting with the UN Special Envoy Staffan de Mistura. “Syria doesn’t accept leaving some 275,000 people in east Aleppo as hostages to 6,000 gunmen,” he said.  De Mistura, on the other hand, made no remarks after meeting al-Moallem in Damascus.  Who is really pushing and working towards the annexation of Syria?

The US led coalition (which no longer includes Turkey) and it's cutthroats Kurdish militias.

The US with the shiny happy face of it's tyranny.... the detestable United Nations! 
  

UPDATE: Purely to point out the Reuter's spin on the succoring (verb:give assistance or aid to; Latin verb was a composite of the prefix sub- (meaning "from below") and the verb "currere" (meaning "to run") of terrorists while destroying Syria- at the behest of the US, undoubtedly

Reuters Spin.. I mean headline: U.N. Syria envoy says local govt in rebel-held Aleppo area should stay on

LOL- local government.. 
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US Led Coalition NOT backing Turkish Move on Al-Bab: ISIS leaves 8 Villages for Kurds

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Fri, 11/18/2016 - 09:04
Yup, ISIS just walked away from 8 Syrian villages. US backed ISIS hands 8 Syrian villages over to US backed Kurdish militias PKK/YPG.

Ekurd
Colonel John Dorrian- REMEMBER THAT NAME! The US-led international coalition battling to defeat the Islamic State group is not backing a drive by Turkish forces and Syrian rebels to retake a jihadist stronghold in northern Syrian, the Pentagon said Wednesday.
Clearly Turkey and the US are no longer allies (save for turncoats still embedded in Turkish military?)
Their offensive on the city of Al-Bab is not being supported by coalition air strikes because it was “independently” launched by Turkey, said US Colonel John Dorrian, a spokesman for the coalition fighting the jihadist group in Syria and Iraq.
Clearly the US wants ONLY to partner with Kurdish PKK/YPG militias to “fight ISIS” all the while enabling their Kurdish proxies in PKK/YPG  to annex territory-
*The US does not want to partner with Syria.
*The US does not want to partner with Russia.
*The US will not partner with Turkey to remove ISIS from Al-bab because if Turkey is successful the Kurds will not have taken the city- And the US wants the Kurds to take Al Bab!

You know that Greater Kurdistan/Israel 2.0 remake the Middle East I've been talkin' about?

The US military spokesman said the United States had withdrawn some special forces soldiers who had been deployed to support the Turkish forces and their allies.
“They are not a part of the advance in Al-Bab,” he said.

The lack of coalition support for the Al-Bab operation illustrates the strained ties as Turkey and its allies adopt disparate strategies for defeating IS in areas the jihadists still control in northern Syria.“What we would like to do is to continue to work with them (the Turks) to develop a plan where everyone remains focused” on defeating IS, Dorrian said.Focused on what Mr Dorrian? Not defeating ISIS or the US would be partnering with Turkey. A NATO ally? (You can't still believe that?)  In both Al Bab and Raqqa. 
He warned against the partners “converging on a way that can be unhelpful.”Sorry, how is  Turkey fighting ISIS unhelpful if fighting ISIS is the goal Mr Dorrian?
Is it clear enough yet what the real goal is?  

Al-Bab, a city of 100,000 about 30 kilometers (20 miles) from the Turkish border, has been a key target for Turkey and its Syrian rebel allies since its campaign began.On August 24, Turkey has launched an incursion into northern Syria to stop the US-backed Kurdish YPG forces from connecting Syrian Kurdistan’s Kobani and Hasaka in the east with Afrin canton in the west. Turkish military operations are focused on Syrian Kurdish forces and not Islamic State, observers say.Ankara launched its unprecedented cross-border operation saying it was targeting both IS and the Kurdish People’s Protection Units (YPG) militia, which has been a key opponent of the jihadist group.Against Turkey’s wishes, the United States and its allies want to continue to count on the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), notably for its offensive against Raqqa, another IS stronghold in northern Syria.Clearly Turkey is not seen as an ally by the US led coalition- Is anyone surprised about this?


PKK/PYD captures 8 villages in Syria’s Aleppo province


 
"The PYD, the PKK group’s Syrian affiliate, has captured eight villages between the cities of Manbij and Al-Bab in Syria’s northwestern Aleppo province after Islamic State militants withdrew from the area without putting up any resistance"

Withdrawing without resistance is the modus operandi of ISIS- A fact covered repeatedly at this blog.

This article talks about the Manbij promise- Yes the YPG/PKK are still present occupying/annexing but I’ve read some of the fighters are on the move...toward Al Bab
Despite the perception managing word play it’s very clear according to Col John Dorrian the Kurdish militias are present in Manbij
“But according to Col. John Dorrian, a spokesman for a U.S.-led anti-IS coalition, speaking to reporters from Baghdad on Wednesday, said YPG elements had already begun to withdraw from the city. "My understanding is they were departing and they were doing that today," Dorrian said after being pressed by Anadolu Agency to explain the apparent contradiction.

"But as far as whether every single one of them is gone, I would be very uncomfortable saying every single one," he added”

Yah, some are undoubtedly departing and plenty are staying put in Manbij.
“PYD forces now stand between 8 and 9 kilometers from Al-Bab with the ultimate aim of establishing control over all areas between Manbij and Syria’s northwestern city of Afrin. The Turkey-backed Free Syrian Army (FSA), meanwhile, currently stands roughly 2 kilometers to the north of Al-Bab. Ankara continues to back the FSA within the context of Turkey’s Operation Euphrates Shield, which was launched in August with the stated aim of purging Syria’s northern border region of terrorist groups with the use of air power, ground troops and artillery.
Roughly 1,720 square kilometers of territory in northern Syria has been cleared of IS elements since the operation began three months ago”Sharing some comments from previous posts:


  1. RescueNovember 16, 2016 at 8:27 PMI am deeply perplexed as to why the alt media continues with their hatred of Turkey.
    Some are clearly disinfo agents, but I think great many simply believe that Erdogan is to blame for the entire war, largely because they are pro American. Also, the propaganda campaign in favour of the 'Kurds' have been very successful.
    It is indeed the anti-imperialist left that is insanely pro Kurdish, leads the charge for the partition of Syria, glorifying Rojava & salivating for the destruction of Turkey.
RescueNovember 16, 2016 at 9:23 PMThere is no balancing act between YPG & Turkey, the US is totally in favor of YPG, & plans to carve up Turkey next.
You just have to read the statements of YPG officials. Their bloodlust is insane. Turkish presence is agression because YPG planned to annex that territory & they will demand that the US drive out Turkish forces next.
And this is what is now happening now. The day after Brett the idiot claimed YPG had finally vacated Manbij, YPG went on the offense, after ISIS handed several villages to them. There are now reports that when Turkey send bombers to target Kurdish positions the US forced TR aircrafts down.
All hell is about to break lose between the US & TR.
Which is good because we might finally se the closire of US bases in Turkey.

PennyNovember 17, 2016 at 3:20 AMHi Rescue:

Thanks: I've made that point over and over the betrayal of Turkey is now so obvious that it cannot be denied by anyone anywhere and yet, still it comes down to myself and Willy Loman as the only ones mentioning it


The US chose YPG over working with Turkey to clear ISIS

The US supplies YPG/PKK weapons and Turkey is confiscating them

The US broke the Manbij promise

The US attempted that coup

It's now so in your face that it's beyond denial and yet I still see nothing


The YPG has already demanded the US drive Turkey back and your reporting the US sent aircraft the force the fighter planes down!

Wow

After I put this post up I said to hubby- more hell is about to break loose between Turkey and the US because the agenda is what it is and the US is on board with the murderous kurdsDelete
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  2. PennyNovember 17, 2016 at 2:02 PMhey karin

    It is a classic take down- and that's what bothers me about no one saying a thing.

    anti war? sometimes
    good to destroy nations? sometimes?
    kill innocent civilians? sometimes?
    I question that silence.
    Taking Turkey out is so beneficial to Israel 2.0---

    Personally speaking- I've no issue with the Turkish people- government in general- well don't get me going- but the Turkish government isn't my government
    we have trudeau and that's bad enough!Delete
  3. RescueNovember 17, 2016 at 7:51 PM@ Karin,
    Actually, what is striking is how calm things are in Turkey. The NGO's have not been successful. Even after the HDP arrests there are hardly any protests, other then in Europe.
    A Turkish friend of mine said the US is trying to organise a democratic oprising. The HDP & CHP are having joint protests this weekend. She also said it wouldn't work. I believe her, the CHP will only be regarded as traitors, working in tandem with foreign interests.

    The US has been trying to take Turkey down for three years now. They have been unsuccessful, even PKK invasion of towns & a coup didn't work, I struggle to see what will work. In the end an over military assault is the only way.
    I hope they get that new anti aircraft system soon. Delete
The anti aircraft system being referred to is one that Turkey and Russia are discussing- There is a post here, somewhere, (relink when I find it)  on that news

Two additional links making the rounds today:

HurriyetArmeniaPR: Turkey seeks to secure its skies with Russian S-400 air defense systems

Coup plotting partners in crime seeking asylum- This too has been covered here previously

Asylum Seekers: Collateral Damage from the US backed coup attempt in Turkey: Some Turkish military officers at NATO seeking asylum - alliance chief


And finally this:

RescueNovember 17, 2016 at 8:10 PMTurkish Russian coop is strong, but Assad is against it. Remember he stopped the attack on Tal Rifat & Afrin, & is now trying to coordinate with YPG. See his last interview, where he says some insane stuff about Erdogan. If Assad is cooperating with the Kurdish militias he is ensuring the complete destruction of Syria and it's history. He would be betraying Iran. He will give NATO/Israel that which they have desired all along. Here is hoping it's just crazy talk as I've not read the latest interview. Yet.
Sigh.....

Lots of reading to catch up on: 

 
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Wiki Leaks, Clinton Ties to Haiti Child Kidnapping/er Laura Silsby

pennyforyourthoughts2 - Thu, 11/17/2016 - 12:48
 Wow! Talk about your blast from the past!
 In 2010 when the story about Laura Silsby’s child trafficking episode was breaking, yours truly was blogging away on the subject!



Covering the reports from February through to April of 2010- The story went away as quick as it appeared. Which wouldn't be a shocker since it was definitely connected to the Clintons.
According to the inquisitr this entire story has been concocted as a smear by a so called Trump supporter on Reddit? Maybe? But that doesn't make the story false.  No way! 

The man himself, Bill Clinton, intervened, on behalf of the child traffickers!
Why on earth would he do that?! Don't give me any 'good guy' crap- This man, Bill Clinton, is linked to Jeffrey Epstein- Bill is no good guy, by any stretch of the imagination!

 link
The Inquisitor reports the children were given to Laura Silsby so they could have a better life
The parents were lied to. The parents were told the kids were going to school!
Which is why the traffickers had a bus to transport all these children!
 (I'll highlight that fact when from one of the original posts)

By the way the Inquisitor goes way overboard with the logical fallacies!
“It turned out that most of the kids weren’t orphans, but their parents gave them to Silsby and her group in the hopes that they could be adopted into a better life. Silsby ended up facing a charge of “arranging irregular travel” and being sent back to the United States with credit for time served in jail”Lucky for Laura Silsby, Bill Clinton intervened on behalf of her and her creepy NGO.

Wikileaks emails

13 posts on Laura Silsby and her stealing of children- Including the news that Bill Clinton intervened which is sadly, now behind a pay wall- but I was able to get a bit of the original news coverage from the Sunday Times- many of the original news links are still available!

1-Haiti case adviser linked to child prostitution 

http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.ca/2010/02/haiti-case-adviser-linked-to-child.html
 



Jorge Anibal Torres Puello. Photo: APUsing photos and fingerprints, police say they are close to confirming that Mr Torres Puello is the suspect wanted since last year for leading a network that recruited children for prostitution in Nicaragua, the Dominican Republic and El Salvador. In the interview with the Miami Herald, his mother confirmed that his wife - Ana Josefa Galvarina Ramirez Orellana - had been convicted in the case and was in jail in San Salvador.2-Haiti's subjugation, human trafficking, and the political enablers

As if the thought of these evil people kidnapping children is not bad enough, one has to consider this... Why is Bill Clinton advocating on their behalf ? Clinton brokers deal over Haiti orphan abductions. Why come to their rescue at all?
Yup Bill Clinton brokered a deal on behalf of the child traffickers!- The link is live but behind a pay wall. However you can read some of it here

“A DIPLOMATIC deal over the 10 American missionaries jailed in Haiti on child abduction charges may lead to the release this week of all except the group's leader, Laura Silsby, according to legal sources in Port-au-Prince.

The intervention of Bill Clinton, the former president, who is co-ordinating relief efforts in Haiti, may accelerate the resolution of an affair that has embarrassed the US government, dismayed relief agencies and angered many Haitians who believe their plight is being exploited by unscrupulous foreigners.
During a visit to Port-au-Prince on Friday, Clinton said the Haitian government was "not looking for some big fight. They just want to protect their children ... I think they'll find a way to defuse the crisis".That’s some high level intervention for the Baptist trafficker and her Jewish ‘lawyer’

3-Haiti child kidnappers& Killer Colonel updates 

http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.ca/2010/02/haiti-child-kidnappers-killer-colonel.html

4- Haitian child kidnapprs 'Lawyer' Jorge Puello arrested facing extradition

http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.ca/2010/03/lawyer-for-haitian-child-kidnappers.html


5- Human trafficker Laura Silsby, tried twice to kidnap children!


http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.ca/2010/03/human-trafficker-laura-silsby-tried.html
Just three days prior to her attempt to move 33 children across the border, she had tried to move 40 children and been stopped!

Judge Bernard Saint-Vil says Laura Silsby has been charged for a newly discovered, alleged attempt to bus child earthquake survivors to the Dominican Republic on Jan. 26.

6- Silsby & Puello: Part of a network of Smugglers
http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.ca/2010/03/silsby-puello-network-of-smugglers.html


Recall me saying the parents didn't give the children over for adoption?

Isaac Adrien said he met Silsby in Port-au-Prince on Jan. 26. She told him she was looking for homeless children, and he knew exactly where to find them.

Isaac Adrien, 20, told his neighbors the missionaries would educate their children in the neighboring Dominican Republic

Questions: Who is Isaac Adrien? Why was he acting on behalf of the baptists? How did Laura Silsby know him, and know he would be able to provide her with children?

Isaac Adrien said he had no knowledge of the group's larger plans; villagers said they were told none of their children would be offered for adoption.The parents were lied to- The traffickers came with a bus and these poor people thought their children were being taken to school! And Bill Clinton intervened on their behalf!

7- Depravity exemplified! Silsby, Puello, Adrien, Catholic, Jewish, Christian connections 
 http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.ca/2010/03/twisted-human-depravity.html
"Castillo said he warned Silsby that if she lacked adoption papers signed by the appropriate Haitian officials her mission would be considered child trafficking. "We were very specific," he said"8- Laura Silsby and the trouble with Baptist Predators 

 http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.ca/2010/04/laura-silsby-and-trouble-with-baptist.html
Silsby oozing evil9- Laura Silsby spent Easter in Prison, Puello faces extradition hearing

http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.ca/2010/04/laura-silsby-spent-easter-in-prison.html



Laura Silsby- evil, psychopathic bitch!
"Oh and poor Laura, ever the victim...

"We were lied to by people who brought children to us and claimed to be either a neighbor, a distant family member. They did not honestly tell us who they were."

It wasn't her and her cohorts that did the lying, no siree bob, it was the people who brought the kids to these self-righteous predators!"10- Haiti:Charges against American missionaries still pending

http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.ca/2010/04/haiti-charges-against-american.html


None of the missionaires, including the released ones, have had their charges dropped against them.

The Haitian judge investigating 10 American missionaries accused of kidnapping for trying to take a busload of children out of the country said Monday that no decision had been made on whether to drop any charges.

Judge Bernard Saint-Vil said he was still considering the legal fates of the group’s leader, Laura Silsby, who has been detained since January, and her nine compatriots, who have been released.

Senator Jim Risch of Idaho and the United States State Department said last week that the charges had been dropped against the nine freed Americans.11-The Baptist Church- "Our Haiti rescue team" needs your help

http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.ca/2010/04/baptist-church-our-haiti-rescue-team.html

12-Laura Silsby back home. Pastor Paul blames UNICEF workers

http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.ca/2010/05/laura-silsby-back-home-pastor-paul.html

Pastor Paul Thompson of Twin Falls told us Wednesday that he believes a group of UNICEF workers played a role in their arrests.

Thompson says a number of people in UNICEF t-shirts showed up in the hours before their arrests. One of the people believed to work for UNICEF joined a meeting with Silsby and police. While in the waiting area the rest of the group began speaking to the children in Creole. He says cameras were rolling and when Thompson asked a policeman translator what was happening. This is what the translator told him.
“He told me that they were telling the children that we were kidnappers and that we were attempting to cross the border without permission, and we were going to do one of two to three things -- sell them into slavery, traffic them or sell their organs on the black market, so obviously any child in any nation would begin to cry,” said Thompson.We received a statement from UNICEF. It reads…
"Mr. Thompson's account is mistaken. UNICEF played no role in the arrests of the Baptist group and UNICEF staff were not present at the arrests. UNICEF does not have the power to order arrests in Haiti or anywhere else. As for the t-shirts, we are aware that officials of at least two Haitian government child protection agencies often wear shirts with both their own and UNICEF's logos."13-The good Baptist Pastor Paul's 'claims' on the Haiti kidnapping
http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.ca/2010/05/good-baptist-pastor-pauls-claims-on.html

This is sordid. Beyond belief. And Bill Clinton intervened on the behalf of these obvious child kidnappers! I shudder to think what would have happened to these specific children had someone not intervened, but, also realize the kidnapping and abuse of children is a huge problem that reaches well into the elite class of crumbs aka the 'upper crust'

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